Blog

1

Ok I am probably going to irritate some of you with a redundant question but there are so many contradictions on past postings I dont know what to believe. I have been migrating over to a paleo diet for the last 9 weeks and things are going VERY well. lost 24+ pounds (now 6'2" and 229lbs) but want to do everything I can to regain my athletic build of yesteryear. I lift 5 days a week and do an hour of cardio everyday but dont want to undo all that effort over something that I could do without but would like to keep IF it is paleo. So plain and simple, is dark chocolate ok or not? I dont plan on making a meal out of it but it is a nice flavor to break up the rather savory or spicy flavors that tend to be on the menu (aside from fruit of course) most of the time.

Please someone just tell me yes or no and a brief laymans terms explanation. And if its yes, what is the minimum level of cacao I should purchase? 70%? 85%

Thanks in advance for your input as it of great assistance to the new guy over here.

Have a great day!

flag
4 
world market has 99% pure cacoa chocolate bars with no sugar at all. And they are paleo and completely natural. Use it. I suggest a piece every day. Good Luck – The Quilt Mar 24 2011 at 18:25
Thanks for all the feedback! it helps to get an idea of the general consensus. Some of the earlier posts provided so much info as to make it even more confusing than helpful! lol. Thanks again. – ChrisO Mar 24 2011 at 18:41
2 
The longest lived humans that we know of all have a few things in common.....eating high grade chocolates with 100% cacoa powder is one. – The Quilt Mar 24 2011 at 18:47
100 percent Dr. K? I was thinking it was very high, but not necessarily that high. Anyways, I'm not giving up my 85! – mari Mar 24 2011 at 23:01
Not to drag this out but after reading further responses I am noting that cocoa butter is on the "no no list" too correct? Or in the most minimal amounts? And on this note, for those of you who dont eat chocolate, what constitutes an endulgence? And please dont tell me berries because that is not really what I had in mind. Thanks in advance. – ChrisO Mar 25 2011 at 10:42
show 3 more comments

12 Answers

7

All except for the very strictest folks indulge in chocolate, from everything I've read on PaleoHacks and in the blogsophere.

The higher the percentage cacao content you can tolerate, the less the sugar, and the less the impact on your blood sugar. My personal favorites are Green & Black's 85% and Lindt 90% - both of which have less sugar than even a big bite of most fruits. I wouldn't indulge in chocolate in the middle of a fast, though, because the digestion of even a couple of squares could interrupt the metabolic benefits you're seeking; wait until you want the fast to be truly broken before having some.

(That said, if your goals include weight loss, maybe consider trying exhaustive weight training 2-4 days/week instead of 5 - give yourself more recovery days, and cut back on the cardio and WAY back on the fruit. Looks like you already know about intermittent fasting so that's great! You may be surprised to notice that your muscle gain remains constant or improved while your fat loss accelerates.)

link|flag
I am so glad you said that. I love Lindt because it has not got the other additives I saw on the other packets. Ok it has demerara sugar (which is refined I know but not as much as white sugar). If I could get one without sugar that tasted ok I would switch. I have a cup of tea with one cube and that makes me happy. – Mrs Y Mar 24 2011 at 22:14
I eat the Green and Blacks. I have half a block at a time (50g) which is less then 8gm of carbs. – Wozza Mar 25 2011 at 2:46
2

It depends on what you consider a "paleo" food to be. You're not going to reverse your success with a little chocolate, and many paleo subscribers indulge in a little dark chocolate from time to time. The general rule of thumb is the darker the better, because it means less sugar and milk. A lot of people can't stand the bitter taste of ~99% dark chocolate, so most don't go that dark.

In a lot of ways, chocolate is like alcohol: it's not strictly paleo, but as long as you can control your intake and don't overindulge, it shouldn't be a problem if you're doing most everything else right.

link|flag
Mark Sisson calls it a "sensible indulgence" along with red wine/coffee/tea (in moderation, of course) – Dave S. Mar 24 2011 at 18:11
1

The reason you did not find a definitive answer is because there isn't one, really.

Dark chocolate is not "officially Paleo". The Paleo Orthodox Committee would most likely put it on the NO list.

The reason many Paleo people are willing to eat the high cacao type is because there isn't much sugar in it at all.

I would say, go ahead and eat the chocolate unless you aren't able to keep the serving size to something small and you are the type to binge on a treat like this, then I would recommend against the dark chocolate. If everything else in your diet is in line 2 or 3 squares of chocolate each night are not likely to stall you or stop your weight loss.

I would say that I don't go lower than 72% cacao and am much happier when I can find 85% and above.

link|flag
1 
The Lindt 85% cacao is very low in sugar ~ 1g per square (1/8 bar). Its lower than the 90% one for some bizarre reason! Chocolate contains polyphenols which are thought to be antioxidants - but as Stephan Guyenet explains, they are really oxidants that provoke an antioxidant response through hormesis. Good in small amounts, bad in large amounts. Hope that helps! – Dave S. Mar 24 2011 at 18:07
ha! The "Paleo Orthodox Committee" needs some rebels sitting on the board :) – texasleah Mar 24 2011 at 18:09
UMMMMM....Oldest living human ate two lbs per week? Do I go with her or Stephan? UMMMMM? And she smoked too......and still lived til 122? Pass me the pure chocolate. Its Paleo. Its 100% natural and has no sugar in pure form. 85% cacao is not paleo in my opinion. – The Quilt Mar 24 2011 at 18:50
I have Lindt's all the time, in fact I have a box of 90% sitting in front of me as I type. A serving of 4 squares is 3g sugar. For the 85% its 6g sugar for the same 4 squares. – Todd Mar 24 2011 at 20:56
The Lindt 90% if my favorite and the easiest/cheapest for me to find. I bet the difference Todd, is the different incarnations of Lindt, there is the "excellence" and the other one. I forget the name. – sherpamelissa Mar 25 2011 at 1:04
1

Also remember that if you are sticking to the high cacao level stuff, it is VERY rich. That's one thing I love about it, you can have the indulgence, but then realize how little it takes to be satisfied. You dont have that milk and sugar and other nonsense getting in the way. My go to is the Lindt 85%, and about 2 squares with a nice glass of red wine takes about an hour to eat. I think an official serving is 4 squares. So when you look at what you are putting into your body, it isnt all that much.

link|flag
Agree. I'm pretty sure that the high-cacao bars like the Lindt 90% have extra cocoa butter added, for richness and "mouth feel," which gets you more delicious saturated fat. Though if you go all the way up to 99% (i.e., 100%) then they don't have the added cocoa butter generally. – Paul Mar 24 2011 at 18:43
1

I like dark chocolate a lot, but unfortunately in the past months I couldn't control portions. I mean, I was devouring a bar at a time. every day. scary stuff.... ;-)

link|flag
oh no. You need to eat a full healthy meal and wait for digestion to kick in before embarking upon a treat and then you will not be as hungry and tempted to go the second, third, etc. – Mrs Y Mar 24 2011 at 22:21
I have no problem with eating a whole bar even soon after full meaty meal... ;-) – Yoannah_offca Mar 25 2011 at 14:17
1

Everything is relative to your goals; so to say if something is "OK", or "not OK" is completely up to what your trying to achieve and when you want to achieve it.

For example if you're looking to cut 1/2 your BF % in 30 days than dark chocolate shouldn't be on the menu.

That being said, if you want to live a relatively sane life and make this Paleo thing a lifestyle choice and not a fad diet that you're probably going to ditch in 6 months than have some dark chocolate.

The thing about dark chocolate is you have to look at the cocoa content, anything >80% is pretty solid; the fact is that more cocoa means less suga and more fiber.

If you look at the specs of a "Green & Blacks" 83% cocoa bar you'll see that it hardly has any sugar per serving, and a good carb/fiber ratio:

alt text

Nutrition Facts

Serving Size 4 sqaures (40.0 g)

Amount Per Serving

Calories 210 Calories from Fat 162 % Daily Value* Total Fat 18.0g 28% Saturated Fat 11.0g 55% Trans Fat 0.0g Cholesterol 0mg0% Sodium 20mg1 % Total Carbohydrates 8.0g 3% Dietary Fiber 3.0g 12% Sugars 5.0g Protein 4.0g Vitamin A 0% • Vitamin C 0% Calcium 4% • Iron 15% * Based on a 2000 calorie diet

link|flag
1

My newest addiction is 2 big scoops of hershey's 100% baking chocolate mixed into 1/4 cup of coconut milk. Creamy, chocolatey goodness.

link|flag
1

100% chocolate? Wow! I'm impressed, when i got the 90% from Lindt, that was already pretty much my limit. I stick to 85%, after a piece or 2, i usually don't need any more. Had them with some almonds today as well, that was a pretty good combo. As said by a few already, is probably not 100% Paleo, but i am going for the 80/20 approach, allowing myself stuff like dark choclate or a glass of red wine. I certainly don't want to fuss about the little stuff, whilst there are a lot of bigger things to worry about too (like cutting out wheat, etc.) I feel like we live in a social environment already where you are being expected to do a 100% of everything, we freak out if we do something "not good enough". Relax, have some dark chocolate and enjoy life ;-)

link|flag
0

Anyone else graduated to 100% chocolate? I've settled into a loving relationship with Ghirardelli's 100% dark (gotta get it in the baking section) and now anything else, even the 90% stuff, is just too sweet.

My advice, push it as high as you can!

link|flag
I have I love %100 percent. 90% is also too sweet for me, it's funny because I use to be a sugar addict. – rob Mar 25 2011 at 0:12
0

These were all SOOOOOO helpful. I am a Paleo newbie, doing a Paleo 40 day challenge at Crossfit and wanted to see where people were at in terms of dark chocolate. Thanks for all the awesome input!

link|flag
0

Chocolate is delicious and probably will not derail your progress, but be careful not to make what we know to be an "indulgence" into a staple food. You don't want to wake up one day realizing half your calories come from Lindt at $5 a bar.

link|flag
0

oh wow. paleo diet is a new thing for me as a dark chocolate enthusiast.

link|flag

Your Answer

Not the answer you're looking for? Browse other questions tagged or ask your own question.