I am on Day 7 of the Master Cleanse (1 cup water to 2 tbsp Grade b/grade 2 Organic Maple Syrup, 2 tbsp lemon juice, 1/12 tsp cayenne pepper - about 6-12x per day). I have done this for years, about 3x per year. I have usually lost about 6-10 pounds over the 10-14 days cleanse. I have been eating about 75% lacto-paleo for about 6 months and I havent been able to go all the way. I am going from a vegetarian mentality to paleo, so its been a slow process of re-education and changing food habits. Anyways, I have been feeling the need to cleanse and I wasnt sure how to do it Paleo style, so I am doing the Master Cleanse, which has been part of my life for about 7 years. I am finding this time that I have only lost 1-2 pounds in 7 days, which is weird... What I want to know is: 1. WHen I break the cleanse should I do the 1 full day of orange juice, then add a brothy veg soup for a day or two and build on veggies first then after 4 days or so add meat. Or if I should come off and go straight to fat and protein. I am worried about stomach problems... 2. When on Paleo, what is a better way to cleanse/detox your body? I know this is not paleo, but I didnt know what else to do. I dont thinkm I could go more than just one day on water alone.
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My friend used to do this cleanse then gain any "weight" he lost right back as soon as he ate food again. He went Primal/Paleo in January and within 6 weeks reshaped his body and dropped 25 lbs on the scale (probably more now). He's not going to do the cleanse again. He is doing it every day by eating real food and avoiding toxins. |
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Master Cleanse is pretty much just forced starvation of your body. It makes sense you'd lose more when you were eating SAD then on Paleo simply because your body has fewer "toxins" to rid itself of. When I started eating paleo I lost about 8 pounds right off the bat (most likely similar "bad food weight"). But now its slowed down and I only lost 2 pounds this last week. Just do yourself a favor and eat real food. |
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Chances are you are not losing a lot of "weight" because eating paleo there is a good chance that your body has retained less water then normal. So that 6-10 pounds you were losing is 99% water weight. You simply do not have the water weight to lose, thus not going to see the scale go down. Personally I never got the idea of a "Cleanse" eating paleo is a cleanse of all the crap out of most peoples diet. I look at diet it a very straight forward approach. If what ever you are doing now you can not maintain for the rest of your life, there probably a good reason to not be doing it now. |
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hmmm, a lot of vehement denouncement of any potential real benefit of the Master Cleanse here without a lot of experience, I have to say I understand that to some extent, seeing as how i was a total skeptic years ago, when i worked with a lot of restaurant people who did this cleanse. Seemed extreme and unnecessary to me and I mocked it a bit. Finally, I tried it myself and I have to say I had extremely positive and long lasting results. I was fortunate in that the place I worked served organically farmed local meat and veg, and after my cleanse i found myself back on my preferred high fat high protein diet (though not paleo at the time). I honestly didn't do it for weight loss but I lost 20 lbs from about 147 to 127 in the 6 months immediately after the fast (I'm 5'7"). I stopped having cold sores, which I've had since i was a baby. On about the 6th day of the fast, I had more energy than I could ever remember having since maybe childhood. I felt amazing. My skin felt like a baby's ass, and I've always had what I would consider really good blemish free skin. Frankly I think the big benefit of this type of cleanse is no solid food intake for days combined with taking a laxative tea or saltwater flush daily (read, you'd better do it when you can spend your mornings in the loo). I think this really does let your body get rid of stored up gut junk - I have always been a healthy eater and fortunate in this respect, but honestly I had stuff to uh get rid of 7 days into this fast having eaten no solid food. I think it's a valuable thing for a lot of people, and while I disagree with a lot of the fast inventor's premises, I honestly do think it can have real benefits. There, I've said it. To the author of the question, not sure about the oj, I would say first day of oj then a good broth, could even be a meat broth, i would however be very careful and slow with the reintroduction of dairy. good luck. |
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If you want to do a "cleanse" I would suggest that you instead go zero carb for a little while (by which I mean the only carbs you'd eat are vegetable ferments, leafy greens, or fatty ones like olive and avocado) with an emphasis on organ meats, bone broth, and fermented foods. This will cut off any weight you need to lose, help starve out bad bacteria in the gut and elsewhere, and improve digestion. Over the long term, zero carb can create certain problems but in the short term, it seems like a good way to deal with several issues all at once and rebalance gut flora. Meat is first, veggies are last. Meat is virtually the only toxin free food since it defends itself by running away, not producing goitrogens, lectins, oxalates, or whatever which virtually every vegetable does which is why we must cook them (except cucumbers and lettuce I guess). |
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These "cleansing" and "detoxing" regimes are based on pseudoscience in my opinion. If someone can produce some evidence that they actually cleanse, or even a reasonable hypothesis as to why maple syrup and cayenne would have cleansing properties, I'd love to see it. |
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I have done the Master Cleanse several times with excellent benefits - it is alkalinizing for the body and does move old stuff on out of the body in my experience. I expect I will choose to do it again sometime in the future. But as for using it to segue more deeply into Paleo - I would suggest more reading here and on the Paleo/Primal blogs about the science of digestion, the way raw versus cooked food and vegan versus meat & fat are used by the body to motivate you to go "all the way'. As for coming off the cleanse - do it as written and then add in all your paleo foods. You may find it easier to be all the way paleo after the cleanse. It is a rest for the mind and gives a break from the old foods. I am a recent convert from years of trying to make the raw vegan diet work for me and am now happily on day 27 of the Paleo Solution Experiment - and really doing well. The Master Cleanse is a faster cleanse for the body - from lack of food, but eating easily digested excellent meat, fat, veg and some fruit will clean you out too. |
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IF has been more cleansing while eating delicious Paleo type foods than any established cleanse I have ever done, and I've done a lot of cleanses, including the MC...all others really messed up my metabolism and made me sick, while IF is bringing me vibrant health! |
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You want ""master"" cleanse???? Go Paleo Detox... http://paleodetox.com/ ;-) |
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I really don't think you need this detox thing. I eat no grains, seek to additional fiber in a suppliment and I have much better bowel movements than when I added fiber to my diet. Fiber is a market pitch to sell something cheap for profit. You Veg side is still holding you back btw- any detox or start of a diet when have a quick 10-20 lb loss- it is all lower tact waste- not a bad thing but it is NOT weight loss that counts- it is weight lost that Jenny Craig or WW shove in front of you as some kind of BS proof. Enjoy the journey |
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I would suggest very highly against doing anything like the Master Cleanse, anymore. Most detox programs are actually forcing your body into starvation mode. There's also no scientific evidence that it removes 'toxins' from the body. Most of the effects come from a mixture of the way starvation works on the body, and a placebo effect. Almost all the effects claimed by these programs have been found to be either questionable, or outright false, when put to study. Most weight loss on these programs is water weight, which is why you would see such a flux in the amount of weight dropped, as you were likely carrying less water weight at the time. Other weight is lost because these diets are usually extremely low calorie, to highly unsafe levels. While there hasn't been any real evidence of harm in the short term, in the long term such diets can lead to nutritional deficiencies, and in some cases can very well be fatal. If you are eating healthy, your body will regulate itself eventually, and bring itself into balance. Detox programs are at best pointless, and at the worst, dangerous. The Master Cleanse is one of the ones that can be very dangerous. |
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