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I appreciate Dr. Harris's recent stance on Paleo (Paleo 2.0) and I love his new classification(http://www.archevore.com/archevore/).

I'm interested to see who is an archevore, and who tries to imitate the Paleo-human in modern times and why.

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I am girl. I eat chocolate. I supplement with animal fats and some fleshy bits. I add vegetables for color.

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Love it! Haha! Thanks gilliebean. – Ben Apr 12 2011 at 14:17
Thanks Ben. Hoped you'd enjoy. ;) – gilliebean Apr 12 2011 at 14:20
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P.S. I like to call the way I eat Nutritionally-dense Real Food. – gilliebean Apr 12 2011 at 15:17
I'm with you gilliebean. I've been using nutritionally-dense a lot more often than paleo these days when describing my diet to those who are curious. My current office mate is still a bit perplexed at how I lost so much weight as he watches me eat a pound of beef at lunch. – Chickenosaurus Rex Apr 12 2011 at 21:08
I like how the I eat chocolate comes first :) – mari Apr 13 2011 at 0:58
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I follow most (10 of 12) of the dietary recommendations on Dr. Harris's site. I don't really care what he's calling it these days, not being interested in labels.

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This is pretty much where I am as well. – a hut full of spears Apr 12 2011 at 20:19
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He could call it the Fuzzy Wampeter of Nutritional Density Deliciousness for all I care. His logic and reasoning are what sells it. – Chickenosaurus Rex Apr 12 2011 at 21:03
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I'm here in Paleo-land to optimize my health.

I favor good results and science over re-enactment, but have found most of my starting clues from evolutionary history.

However, I've never thought that everything neolithic must perforce be neolethal.

Dr. Harris' approach fits my style, and so I follow his sage advice.

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i am probably adherent more to the panu/paleo 2.0/archevore protocol than i am of any of the others. it's given me and the people i love results ranging from great to damn near miraculous.

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and very little beats out good results! – Adam Crafter Apr 12 2011 at 14:53
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Could you share the "near miraculous"? it's always good to hear great story! – Yoannah_offca Apr 13 2011 at 22:05
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sure... my 63 year old cancer-surviving dad was nearly immobile and 350+ at the beginning of the year. he's now 290(and getting about 3lbs smaller a week) and moving better than he has in a decade. i'm excited to see where he'll be by summer :-). – luckybastard Apr 13 2011 at 23:26
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The main reason I call myself paleo is because the word makes for an easy search term for anyone who's interested in what I'm doing. All the other variants can be found and researched from there.

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well-said, sir... – crzydjm Apr 12 2011 at 16:38
Paleo + recipe weary has yeilded many fine ideas, then I take out the sugar that someone slipped in, and make a delicious dish! – Adam Crafter Apr 12 2011 at 18:24
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I think we need a prominent voice of Paleo like Dr Harris to take the lead on the current face of Paleo. We've all been tossing around the idea of what to call this way of eating (and in some respects... way of living) for quite a while.

Here's a thread from a Chris Kresser post about Paleo from several months back. This was before I was even on PaleoHacks at all. You can even see below that lots of people chimed in and we had a pretty worthy discussion.

http://thehealthyskeptic.org/is-paleo-even-paleo-and-does-it-even-matter/comment-page-1#comment-171897630

But nobody was stepping up. Then Dr Harris finally grabs the bull by the horns and makes a couple of bold suggestions. And like all "out on a limb" suggestions, it's bound to be loved by some and hated by others, but that's the nature of the beast, no?

I think that whatever we all choose to call it, it won't really change what we do. We eat the healthiest foods based on what's currently available to us in modern times and what's currently understood to be most beneficial to the body. If the "Paleoheads" want to have a conference call to nail down a rebranding then that might work... like if Harris, Stephan, Kresser, CMast, Sisson, Wolf, and whoever else gets in on it and wants to hash it out and make an executive decision, then I'd say they are the folks with the largest 'sway' on this community.

Right now, Dr Kurt Harris made two bold and direct moves. Paleo 2.0 and Archevore. That's where we're at right now. But I think PaleoHacks as a group is a pretty loud voice too. So if someone else on here wants to step up and make somethin happen, then do it.

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I don't like the "...vore" construction; people around here call themselves "locavores" and it bugs me. It just sounds really pretentious.

Other than that I'm pretty much with gilliebean, although I would sat I eat the fats and fleshy bits, and supplement with chocolate.

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LOL! Deal! More chocolate for me. ;) – gilliebean Apr 12 2011 at 20:56
P.S. I totally agree with you about the "vore". – gilliebean Apr 12 2011 at 20:57
does it sound to anyone else like "whore"? is it just me... :-/ – Yoannah_offca Apr 13 2011 at 22:06
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I'm inclined toward Dr. Harris's thinking, but I really don't care for labels. I've stopped calling it paleo when I explain to people how I eat. I just explain why I eat what I eat, and why I don't eat certain things. (I only offer this when asked. My soapbox broke and I can't afford a new one. ;-) )

Everything neolithic isn't lethal and everything under the paleo umbrella doesn't equal a panacea.

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"propervore"?

"orthovore"?

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I don't really care for the labels either. They get hyped and commercialized and trendy and then I feel kind of silly for using them. I just tell people I eat meat, fish, fruits and vegetables and leave it at that.

I supposed labels are a necessary evil though.

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The only problem with labels (nouns, words...) is when people use the same label to mean different things. I think "Archevore" has the benefit that the word was created by a living person who has defined it (doctored Greek aside) clearly, so it makes a fine label for those who eat that way. "Primal Blueprint" has the same advantage. You can't say "Paleo Diet" now without qualifying which one. And I won't say "Paleo Solution" because it seems doubtful to me that it is either.

I think most of us are in pursuit of the Optimal Human Diet, but we have far to go before we discover what that is. Or was. We may have already screwed up the food chain so much that we'll never be able to reach (or return to?) optimal.

We could not communicate without labels. I love them. Use them with care.

Did you know chocolate is a fermented food?

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I'm proof you can live off steak and chocolate Gilliebean!! <3 it!

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