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Hi. I am looking for some info on what the best P:F(protein:Fat) ratio is. I have often viewed protein as a 'catalyst' for the other macronutrients as it seems the more of the former one consumes(up to x limit: what?) the more of the latter two(carbs/fats) one is able to consume without a change on the fat/adipse side of body composition(on the muscle side perhaps). Is this attributable to 'protein synthesis' or some such anabolic process? Whatare the limits to ingestion per sitting for protein and what is the best ratio to implement in structuring a diet so as not to become a lardo/anaemic person? So far I have taken a cue from the PALEOs on this site and decided to follow the 'leangains' site approach to IFing. Currently I am consuming 3 meals at 1000-1100 kcals. each and it seems to be working well(better than interrupting one's life every 2, 3, 4, etc. hours as I had previously done). I am wondering if the old school approach of the farmer in the fields would be best: big breakfast...big supper?(maybe 2 meals max per day?). Whatare the limits, in short, to protein per time and how much fat would one want to consume simultaneously to maintain energy balance expressed in terms of a ratio? With respect to myself I weight-train daily and walk 1 hour for exercise, the latter broken up into two ~35 min. sessions. Advice?

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Depends upon your activity level and your ferrari's hormone levels......there is no canned answer to this. The fact that you seem to be looking for one is more problematic.... Learn your engines requirements first......rely on no guidelines. Then you will soar. – The Quilt Apr 16 2011 at 18:38
per ardua ad astra, perhaps – DudleyP Apr 16 2011 at 18:42
I have always been too much of an Icarian. Time to come down to earth(but that requires walking/moving...and one seeks to do so efficiently, hence my question). – PersonMan Apr 16 2011 at 20:58
Or superman - when do you know you are walking/moving efficiently, if not already? – DudleyP Apr 17 2011 at 12:49

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Dude, PersonMan! Too many questions! Some of the other hacks with the "protein" label answer some of your questions. And googling "Warrior diet" or "Paleo meal frequency" and other such things can give you more details.

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Perfection, the enemy. – Ikco Apr 16 2011 at 19:10
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"Persuade thyself that imperfection and inconvenience are the natural lot of mortals, and there will be no room for discontent, neither for despair." – Kamal Apr 16 2011 at 19:25
Stoical stuff. I like to live a planned and structured life. I'll check the books though, thanks for the refs. – PersonMan Apr 16 2011 at 20:59
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not an actual question

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I like eating two meals/day the most, but that came from trial and error.

Eat as much as you want when you are hungry, then don't eat again until you're hungry, and eat as much as you want.

This may sound a bit daft, but if you're eating clean paleo foods everything else should kinda fall into place when you eat like that.

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Intuitive! I have thought this would be a fair idea...but as sun tzu said: "a slight deviation becomes a greater deviation over time"(assuming non-parrallelism). – PersonMan Apr 16 2011 at 21:06
avoid deviation – DudleyP Apr 17 2011 at 12:52
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Idk about the ratio. But your total PRO for the day should be 1.5x you BW in Kilos. More meals the better for positive nitrogen balance. And your cardio should be one session at that length of time. It takes 30mins to begin lipolysis, which also stops after 120mins. You should be doing low intensity cardio fasted first thing in the morning. I start with 30mins/day working up in 5min increments per week if I didn't loose 2lbs or my composition changed unfavorably. Once you get to 120mins then break it up into 2 sessions.

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Too many meals spells doom for leptin and cortisol......bad advice here. – The Quilt Apr 17 2011 at 2:48
Thanks for presecription doc, Would you care to provide a link? – PersonMan Apr 17 2011 at 16:52
don't do it Doc! lol. – Jack Kronk Apr 19 2011 at 21:54

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