Blog

9

I searched the PH site and found nothing on bipolar disorder and paleo. Does anyone here suffer from bp and if so, how has (if at all) paleo helped you? I found that my moods are a lot more even on paleo however, I wonder if there are specifics to this diet of which I should be aware.

flag
Thanks for the comments! I'm going to go ketosis (thanks Geoff!) for the next week and see what happens and post my progress for y'all. I will miss potatoes :( – baconbitch Apr 27 2011 at 18:12
After researching online, I recently wrote an article about mental disorders and a ketogenic diet, which seems to help even some major cases. Some people will get better on the plain Paleo/Primal/SCD/GAPS diets, but some might actually need to go ketogenic to see actual benefits (because a keto diet changes the chemistry of the brain in a more fundamental way). The article, with some of the links I researched, and some tips about how to go about it: eugenia.queru.com/2011/11/22/… – Eugenia Nov 24 2011 at 20:01

13 Answers

6

It is theorized that bipolar is small seizures in the brain. Therefore some feel that a ketogenic diet can regulate bipolar just as it can stop seizures from occuring.

http://bit.ly/faOzAK

link|flag
^ Thats not a bad theory. At least its a lot better that NT deficit, or brain malfunctional. I tend to think its highly influenced by diet and lifestyle. Choline supplementation has been found to be as effective as mood regulating drugs, and the vast majority of people dont get enough (heck its hard to get enough on high meat paleo, without loads of eggs and regular liver, let alone people getting enough on sad). Theres probably an element of actual shock horror, emotion, in there too. Our stoic society doesnt like alot of emotion being displayed. – Jamie Aug 17 at 8:39
(Hence why we have psychatrists, and the notion of mental illness in the first place. The very first mental illness was "hysteria" and was supposed to be something that afflicted all women. The stoic greeks came up with that. Hysteria eventually because bipolar and schizophrenia and here we are hundreds of years later, where if anyone pushes our hidden buttons too much, we diagnose them, medicate em, and lock em up. IMO theres a diet/lifestyle factor, but also an emotional - some of this is folks just being scared of those that show what lies beneath the surface, by those who feel it) – Jamie Aug 17 at 8:51
Its all a bit like the emporers new clothes. I mean, I am sorely tempted often when dealing with police, judges, doctors, to make fun of them, maybe try on some of their uniform, stand on their desk, poke faces etc. If I did tho, no doubt id be quickly put into a ward, and primarily because people dont like being challenged, or having their ideas challenged. But really alot of our society is innately laughable, frustrating, or vastly horrific. It takes an act of mental will, and personal centering, not to wander around oscillating between amused, elated, angressive, horrified, depressed etc. – Jamie Aug 17 at 8:55
Theres simply a gamut of emotions out there, to actively suppress like everyone else is. (or deal with, which requires facing them first and is highly challenging personally). I started agreeing about diet etc, lol, and look at me, I am in another online rant :P All I am trying to say is, the human mind is MADE of emotion. Its MADE of delusions. Its only on the surface that we justify things, or try maintain an ppearance of logic. In a word thats so rife with trouble, it seems ostrich like to maintain a delusion of logical conciousness rather than accept we are emotionally driven beings. – Jamie Aug 17 at 9:02
11

A bit of background, since I'm not sure I'm qualified to answer your question: I'm undiagnosed but my doctor highly implied that she thought I was rapid-cycle bipolar. However, she failed to refer me to a psychologist, and thus I remain without a label. My mother is bipolar, though, so I'm pretty certain I've got it, as well. I'm self-diagnosed with cyclothymia. :)

Anyway, onward, to answer your question! I find myself much more mellow these days, but oddly enough, I'm having more of the hypo-mania periods as of late. Then, instead of plummeting, I tend to settle back into feeling almost normal. I still get my lows, but they're not "pit-of-despair" quality like they used to be.

link|flag
1 
Great answer! I've had more normalcy as of late (6 months on Paleo). I would love to connect with other bp's on paleo as the whole reason for eating this way is to improve my mental health. The hot body is just a super bonus :) – baconbitch Apr 27 2011 at 17:33
I'm glad Paleo is working for you! My mental health is one of the many reasons I'm Paleo, and like you, everything else is just an extra perk. :D – Kaz Apr 27 2011 at 22:07
5

I think a lot of of are going to come to the same consensus, but I'll share my story anyways.

I am bipolar, or I should say I was diagnosed as bipolar, but since going gluten free and even more so since going paleo I have been largely asymptomatic. I haven't read all of the literature out there, but I'm pretty sure I remember both Mark Sisson and Robb Wolf touching on how ongoing reactions to our SAD foods could trigger bouts of depression either in documented examples or in "let's share a story" (honestly I just don't feel like looking up chapter and verse) - well no kidding, if you feel like shit all the time, and you're already predisposed to a psychiatric condition, you're not doing yourself any favors.

As I have never been able to stay on my meds longer than 4 weeks before they sent me into extreme lows (and I had probably been prescribed EVERYTHING at one point or another up until I just gave up trying meds to fix the problem about 5 years ago) I can honestly say that the ONLY thing that has worked has been a change in my diet. Adding CrossFit has helped some of my stress, but definitely going grain free has helped my bipolar disorder. I still have the odd highs and lows every now and then, we all should, that's part of what makes us human and they're no where near what they were before.

I'm sorry I can't post this as a doctor with a great explanation, but I can say that what you're going through I believe is normal. As far as I can tell, there is nothing about the diet that will harm you or make it worse. Your doctor has probably told you already to eat well, get plenty of rest, and to exercise - that's regularly prescribed as part of our treatments - they just don't tell you to get off the grains and get some extra sunshine too.

link|flag
2

Would anyone here be interested in sharing a googledoc or something similar to trade new research/articles/personal experiences on bipolar and paleo/gluten-free/celiac? Paleo cured my 'rheumatoid arthritis' (life changer!) and a family member is thinking of trying it out for mood issues. Would be great to share info.

link|flag
Caitlin - I'd be interested in hearing more about your experience with RA. My brother suffers from a type of it and is always in extreme pain. My email address is megana83@hotmail.ca if you're ever bored and would like to shoot me an email ;) Cheers. – PaleoGal Jan 27 2012 at 12:42
2

From what I've heard and researched, They're starting to call Alzheimers "Type 3 Diabetes" because there are issues with glucose metabolism in the brain. The Brain can run off Glucose or Ketones. Apparently Medium chain fatty acids have been found to help Alzheimers. And those are in Coconut Oil. Dr Mary Newport has reversed some of her husbands Alzheimers with Coconut Oil. And Bruce Fife has lots of stuff on Coconut Oil.

Anywayz, I know you don't have Alzheimers but it seems all these conditions of brain health (depression, Bipolar and Alzheimers) have skyrocketed along with Diabetes ever since we've been on this low-fat, high carb lifestyle.

I also saw on Paleoparents.com that Their whole family benefited in their brain health and emotional issues

link|flag
I'm writing my master's thesis on Alzheimer's as Type 3 diabetes and a direct result of insulin resistance in the brain. You are spot on with this! – Amy B. Jul 10 at 15:21
Amy B. I would love to read your thesis, my grandmother has Alzheimer's. – Learning Aug 17 at 5:24
1

I am type II Bipolar and have noticed that I am far more "up" and not at all depressed. I have read the same thing, that doing a ketogenic diet helps, and that staying away from sugar will also help to stabilize mood. I think that the exercise helps too with depression. I take an antiepileptic drug called lamictal, which has no side effects. I wish I didn't have to take anything, but bipolar mood swings can be devastating and I am not willing to take any risks! Maybe you could ask your doctor about taking a med with fewer side effects. There are many options other than Lithium.
Good Luck!

link|flag
I know I'm a little late in commenting, but just ran across this site. Lamictal was an answer to prayers after a few months of taking it, and I don't think I will ever go off of it. Have you noticed any adverse reactions to going Paleo and being on Lamictal? – Katybone2 Feb 20 2012 at 19:33
I have no side effects with Lamictal. I only feel like hell when I have a "Junk" day-with candy or non-paleo foods. My moods have been pretty stable, although a little down since I came back from vacation. I think it was the time zone adjustment and the diet differences (I had a couple days that I ate junk food) that made me moody. – Jaime May 26 at 9:17
1

I am struggling to find out if I have bipolar. I've tried Paleo before but have not been able to stick to it, since my reasons for doing so were largely "cosmetic." For me, that never lasts. Everyone's positive testimony here makes me want to try again, and since I'm going to the grocery store tonight, I can make the right choices.

I am un-diagnosed as of yet, but I have had several doctors heavily imply that they thought I was bipolar, and my paternal grandfather was. I have had some serious indicators in my life. Thank you so much to everyone who has shared here. I am suffering pretty intensely right now, and will be seeing a counselor Wednesday, which I'm looking forward to, but I don't want to be slapped on meds for the rest of my life if I don't have to. I already take an anti depressant but I just don't think it's enough. I think I need to start respecting my body, Paleo style again, with foods that can heal me from the inside out.

Blessings to all of you.

link|flag
1 
If you are, in fact, bipolar and you are taking an anti-depressant, that can send you into a manic state. When you go to see your counselor, that is something you may want to discuss with them. (This is not a substitute for a health professional's advice. Listen to your doctor and make your own choice!) – Varelse Jul 10 at 0:51
0

I'm writing an answer here so I'm notified of future posts. My family suffers greatly from depression. I can't get through the carb flu without caving in because of mine. My resilience seems to be good for all of 4 days or so.

link|flag
Depression is one of two components of bipolar. I have both the very highs and very lows. Lately I've been swinging like a damn pendulum way more than every in my life. I'm starting to think its me 'evening' out as I've also experienced a few days of total 'even-ness' which I haven't had about 15 years. FYI - there are several posts on depression for you to read here: paleohacks.com/search?q=depression#axzz1KYlJJzF9 – baconbitch Apr 26 2011 at 21:32
Thanks! I have highs and lows, but not too drastic. – Sara Apr 26 2011 at 22:07
0

Paleo diets are higher in omega 3 fatty acids. These fatty acids are beneficial to brain function and can ameliorate depressive symptoms. (the health benefits of omega3 polyunsaturated fatty acids; a review of the evidence. Ruxton, Reed, Simpson, Millington.) If not then a supplement is a good idea. Also as paleo is very low in sugars, sugar is responsible for a whole gamete of awful side effects such as inflammation and mood swings. And who knows what other consequences come from additives and preservatives. So it stands to reason that in the absence of these toxic substances your moods become moderated and you feel " normal".

link|flag
0

See above I posted here on accident and don't know how to delete

link|flag
0

Be interesting to see if psychiatrists can prove that bipolar disorder, as conceived, exists.

Clearly something goes awry with peoples perception, but what, and how that should be dealt with needs elucidating..

link|flag
0

I am bipolar and it is hard to make it through Carb flu z:(

link|flag
-1

Ok paleo is great but really.. It lacks emphasis on quality Quality of food i have found is just as important .things tht have changed my Life tht may sound Rather odd are high quality virgin coconut oil, grass fed butter ( odd but Eat lots) and cutting out grains!! Look on this website www.bulletproofexecutive.com Now i have tried every peice of adviceand drugs from doctors, the more I read about mental health the more i realise how Little they know. Since 16 have suffered major depression that lasted 2 years No reason tht i could think of my major symptoms where memory loss short and long Spatial awarness decline and an inability to formulate vocab The truth, they dont know their logic is based around complex Theoretical Interactions in the brain that they on the grandier scale of knowedge on The brain have Only scratched the surface. What to do then ? Give your brain what it wants it wants fats(read what kinds on bullet proof) your brain if u deduct water half ur brain is fats. Im not gonna go off about what to eat and why www.bulletproofexecutive.com does so much better

link|flag

Your Answer

Not the answer you're looking for? Browse other questions tagged or ask your own question.