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How would you respond to Gary yourofsky's arguements.

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Ron, can you give us a link and maybe a little info on the person you are asking about? – Paul Jun 2 2011 at 7:52
for what purpose, conversion ? – DudleyP Jun 2 2011 at 8:23
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Ron -- please take the time to write a better, formatted question next time. – Patrik Jun 2 2011 at 22:05

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Yeah this one quote from Yourofsky should at a minimum give you a moment of hesitation (or perhaps cause you to run at top speed in the other direction, and maybe call the police from your cell phone on the way) before buying into his philosophy:

"Every woman ensconced in fur should endure a rape so vicious that it scars them forever."

This kind of thinking scares the crap out of me, and is not any different than certain radicals blowing up innocent people in the name of "God".

Moving the question (and answer) further away from the radical and political and closer to nutrition, you can find various threads here on vegans and veganism and find various links about the potential nutritional impact of such a diet.

I think it might be possible for certain people to be fairly healthy on a vegan diet, if they were very careful about what they ate and had the right supplements. I personally don't think that a Paleo or meat and protein heavy diet is for everyone, and some people can live on starches and vegetables. However, there are certain essential nutrients that are absent from a vegan diet without a lot of supplements, such as vitamin B (especially B12), vitamin A and vitamin K. The diet is just a game of how to shore up what you're lacking with supplements.

The largest and most obvious drawback to a vegan diet is the lack of protein. There just aren't any good sources of it. Many vegetarians and vegans think that tofu is a good source of protein, but firm tofu is only about 10% protein, soft tofu about 5% (compared to 3.5% for cow's milk). If you believe that protein is a necessary macro-nutrient (perhaps debatable in the wide world but certainly not in Paleo circles), then this diet just doesn't make sense.

There has never been any culture or civilization that has thrived on a vegan diet (that we know of, of course). One reason might be that such a diet is only sustainable if you have a bunch of supplements and vitamins which weren't available historically. The human body just wasn't built to live on this diet.

In contrast, a majority of human cultures around the world have become so by domesticating animals. Just eating the milk and eggs of animals without harming them improves your diet by leaps and bounds, and this small change makes the difference between starvation and a sustainable diet. However, this is just too much for the vegans it seems.

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such a great answer – The hacker formerly knownasron Jun 3 2011 at 0:31
:-)) Based on the above background info I would not listen. Too bad, too, because no one is all good/bad and I might miss something worthwhile. – Nance Nov 2 2011 at 19:17
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He's a lapdog for PETA and a vegan animal rights activist (and a covicted felon). Okay, that was an ad hominem, but I am seriously not interested in a any argument that he might make. What specific point does he make that you are interested in?

Edit: Here's a pretty good argument against him: http://thespeciesistscorner.blogspot.com/2008/01/gary-yourofsky-advocates-rape-in-insane.html

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Makes me wish his dad had used a lamb's skin condom and thus kept the boy in the balloon. You don't even have to flush it...all biodegradable. Gary Yourofsky sounds like another great vegetarian...Hitler.

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Would the no humor chicken (anonymous...like a heckler shooting barbs from the back of a dark comedy room...who gave me a negative 2 please never buy a ticket to a comedy club...your lack of humor "offends me". – Andre Chimene Jun 2 2011 at 21:50
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Simply not funny. – No more. Jun 2 2011 at 21:52
As a professional comic who has toured the world, I take arguement with your words. To say something is not funny is your opinion. One can never say with certainty "that is not funny". Better to say "that is not funny to me". I accept that. I however,think it is funny. I will never check my comedy or base my fears of what I should say or not based on your opinion. You do not pay my salary. You are welcome to your opinion. I am welcome to the world. – Andre Chimene Jun 2 2011 at 22:44
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If your a comedian do you have any good Paleo jokes? – The hacker formerly knownasron Jun 3 2011 at 0:34
Thanks Ron. Here's the link. It has already been asked. Enjoy. paleohacks.com/questions/8984/… – Andre Chimene Jun 3 2011 at 4:57
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Many of his statements depend on the lipid hypothesis, which is unproven at best and an outright lie at worst.

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