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Pastured whole chickens cost a fortune around these parts. They are about $16/kilo (about $8/pound). Their chicken livers are double that. Even their bones are $8/kilo. Ouch!

I'm trying to eat more beef and other stuff to replace the chicken, but we've always been big on chicken. I'm buying regular chickens, and using regular chicken bones for bone broth. Obviously not ideal.

My question is this: How bad is unpasteured chicken? Not based on assumption, but fact. Does anyone know if there is anything in it that would actually harm us? I can't eat beef liver (too gross). I figure that liver from poorly sourced chickens still has more nutrients than say a can of tuna or a piece of beef (muscle meet). And imperfect bone broth is better than no bone broth.

Thoughts?

P.S. If there is anyone in Israel who knows how to get decent affordable chicken, please let me know.

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I have family in Israel, though I live in the US. Are you looking for Kosher chicken, or do you not care? – Lance Jun 3 2011 at 23:48
I guess I don't care. – Glither Jun 4 2011 at 5:08

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If you compare two chickens, one pastured and one from a factory farm, you won't find too many real nutritional differences.

The factory chicken may have slightly less Omega-3 in it's fat but it's not a drastic difference (the same goes for beef). Factory farm animals are also more likely to be contaminated with feced (e.coli) and other pathogens like salmonella. I even read a news story today about MRSA in some European milk.

Personally, I think that the main differences fall into the categories of evironment, ethics, and taste.

Pasture-fed animals taste MUCH better, lived happier lives, and support the ecosystem within which they are raised.

Factory farmed animals taste like "blah", suffer for their short-life, and produce tremendous amounts of waste that is likely disposed of in irresponsible ways.

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I'm not really worried about the omega 3 issus. When I look at my entired diet, I think I have that covered. The ethical issue is a problem, but I don't know how to solve it right now. Taste-wise, it's what I've always eaten, so I'm not aware of that being a problem. – Glither Jun 4 2011 at 4:35
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If you're faced with factory hickens only I'd say eat the white meat only and skip the fat. THe omega six content is a real issue with the dark meat and skin so stick with skinless breasts if it's a factory bird.

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Honestly, other than higher fat content of animals which are grain fed while kept in a small "keeping" area like with feed lots, modern chicken farms, there really isn't much difference in quality. Animals eat grains and turn the grains into meat...we eat the meat. No matter what they eat...it's still meat.

If you need Kosher, sorry, that's something I know very little about. I didn't even know there was such a thing as Kosher chicken. Isn't Kosher about the cleanliness and manner of slaughter, not the way it's fed?

I eat more like Primal than Paleo...so I don't worry about things like fat content. Since I gave up the low fat, high carb, grain fed lifestyle...I'm the leanest I've ever been, the healthiest I've ever been, and my lab work shows it...so does the lack of new MS symptoms.

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there's a HUGE difference. – Futureboy Jun 4 2011 at 0:52
I'd pretty much agree, for the muscle meat of said animal. If you want to eat the whole animal and/or the fat then I'd say get pastured for sure. That's why I answered above to eat the breasts skinless if it's a factory bird. – ben61820 Jun 4 2011 at 1:37
Kosher is about the cleanliness and slaughter, not feeding. Kosher and Halal meat has traditionally been held to a higher standard in that regard than regular meat, but it pales in comparison to pastured. Before I knew anything about pastured meats I sometimes got Kosher chicken because there was possibly less risk of contamination from salmonella, E.coli and things like that. – permiechickie Jun 5 2011 at 18:12
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Kosher chicken is a joke, from Paleo perspective. Pastured chicken is far healthier. I hear you, though, about the cost. If you buy from a store like Whole Foods, prepare to pay through the nose. Many people on this list should be able to help you source more affordable options. As for non-pastured chicken, I'll eat it, but only sparingly.

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It's not a joke if you're strictly religious. – permiechickie Jun 5 2011 at 16:00
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I am on a tight budget now (we both got laid off from work so money is strap for sure) so I just stick to conventional chicken and just like mentioned above, I stick to lean cut skinless breasts and bought more lamb and beef (lean cut) and eggs.

Not pastured/grassfed/organic, but at least I do myself a lot of favor by not eating junks like McDonalds and grains/gluten and other processed craps. No need to worry about it if it's not in your budget. Just do what you feel comfortable.

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Chris kresser opened my eyes to this. He states that the omega 6 content in conventional chicken, especially the dark meat and skin is very high. There, we I can't get pastorate chicken I choose beef. On occasion we I am out to eat I will get chicken but I have to know that chicken is going to be damn good!

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The grass fed beef I buy is imported from South America and frozen. It comes in one big piece. The butcher won't grind it for me. I was never a big beef eater, and the recipies I know call for ground beef, mostly. I am slowly learning how to make new beef dishes, but they are stews that cook for 3 hours. I could buy locally raised "grass-fed" beef is only sort of grass fed and cost a lot more than the frozen beef. That's why I keep eating conventional chicken - I can whip up lots of chicken dishes relatively quickly. Not sure how to solve this one. HELP! – Glither Jun 5 2011 at 13:50

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