I hadn't had dairy in close to 10 months and finally binged on close to 400 grams of sour cream daily for three days, and I feel great. No digestive issues, and no obvious symptoms that I could pick up. But like the saying goes 'tolerated is not optimal' and I'd like to know what potential problems could arise from the consumption of dairy. It's so convenient and tasty and a great way to get easy calories in. I want to be convinced why it should be avoided, despite any reactions, especially if I am looking for optimal health.
The "feeling great" could be you enjoying the dairy "high". It is similar to an opiate type of relaxation/euphoria. Maybe mild or moderate depending on how your body reacts to casomorphines. Now that you've added dairy in for 3 days, I would recommend not eating any dairy for 2-3 days to see how you feel. If you feel bad(brain fog, mood changes, allergy-like mucus production), then at least then you'll know for sure you want to avoid it. Feeling bad is your body basically showing that it didn't agree with it. This is usually because of the casein(casomorphines) or lactose. If you feel okay, then it's your choice(possible risk?) if you want to consume cow's milk.
I would just make sure your dairy is grassfed. It has quite a few more nutrients and is almost a different food. CLA, for example, is chemoprotective and inhibits IGF-1, but you won't find it in conventional dairy. Nutritionism has its flaws though, so I won't go listing all the nutritional differences. I think grassfed dairy is a much superior product and can be a part of a healthy diet if so desired. CAFO dairy should probably be limited, particularly if you're looking for optimal health.
I dropped all dairy but cream and butter January 2011 (I have MS) and haven't had any for over 30 days. I feel great, and won't be going back on the moo. I have a different reason than many in that I have a problem that may be made worse with dairy, so I have slowly eliminated it while moving from Primal to Paleo in my diet. I now use coconut oil/milk instead of dairy, and use way more bacon grease too.
I was just remarking to my wife that I did get a bit phlegm-y after having Greek yogurt or cream, so maybe that was a sign to quit.
Again, I think each person is a special case, so what works for me may not work for you.
Dairy is good for making small cows grow into big cows.
It does a very similar thing for humans, by increasing the rate of growth that cells divide. Which is fine as long as all cells being divided are healthy, if a not so healthy cell (cancer/etc) gets divided rapidly it can be a bad thing.
So dairy doesn't cause cancer but it can make it grow faster.
Without dairy and your cells divide at a normal pace, your body normally stops that bad cells from dividing.
Now with that being said if you consume a low amount of dairy, you have the body composition you want then should you really take dairy out? Maybe... I do not operate well on dairy doesn't work with me, if i could drink it there is a good chance I still would.
Not from me. Raw milk cheeses work well in my diet. I would not drink modern milk, the ultra pastur stuff, but if you can her raw milk or good milk from Natural by Nature, use it. Just don't drink glass after glass. And Butter is a GREAT food.
Dairy could be a problem if you have an autoimmune condition. I have Sjogren's and my hands used to go numb overnight. After I stopped eating dairy (I was only eating sour cream and Greek yogurt and heavy cream), my hands don't go numb anymore. I brought sour cream back for a few days, and sure enough, it returned.
Your mileage may vary if you don't have an autoimmune issue. I believe heavy cream and butter and Greek yougurt and sour cream are okay for most people. But I would avoid pasteurized milk, definitely, and for sure any kind of skim milk.
I would think that the only really convincing argument against eating dairy is if you cannot tolerate it, due to either the lactose, or casein. One of the main things with eating dairy, is that the dairy should come from pastured cows, with raw pastured dairy being ideal. Otherwise, you’ll be taking in a lot of the bad stuff (omega-6’s, low nutrient density) associated with conventional farming. One issue I had with dairy is that it was too easy to eat too much lactose, which gets broken down into glucose and galactose, which can cause insulin spikes and an elevated blood glucose level. This caused me problems in weight gain/loss (gained fat, couldn’t lose the fat I had), but it would also cause blood sugar crashes due to blood sugar spiking.
I enjoy my fair share of butter, although I get organic pastured butter, which has all the good fat from grass-fed dairy. I tend to tolerate dairy quite well, although I’ve decided that I’ll only include raw, pastured dairy in my diet, so until I find a good dairy source, all I eat is pastured organic butter.
I’d suggest only eating pastured raw dairy, with eating conventional dairy in little to no amounts, since it’s just not that good.
And where is everyone getting the whole “dairy causes increased cell division” thing?
The arguments against dairy have always seemed a lot weaker than the arguments against grains/refined carbs, and tend to centre around the "quite a few people have a borderline intolerance" point.
My wife is going to try without dairy for a while as she suffers from eczema. She was also clearly sensitive to wheat as her IBS symptoms cleared up overnight when stopped eating grains. My gut is apparently more robust and I never got those symptoms with wheat, and have no problems eating dairy. For the joy I get out of full fat yoghurt, occasional bits of cheese and a splash of milk in my tea and coffee, cutting out dairy just isn't worth it for me.
As Dr. Briffa says, "life gets in the way sometimes". Obsessing over details seems far more un-paleo than the minor differences/preferences between primal eaters. One of the best things about paleo eating for me is really enjoying food again without worrying/feeling guilty etc.
I've been adding lots of milk lately. Feeling good with it, and no weight gain. Also eat lots of cheese and sometimes yogurt and kefir. Cream is great.
Yum yum yum!
It's a nice safe way to get sat fats, protein with without too much sugar. The insulinogenic thing is negligeable (hand-wringing hysteria aside).
I definitely eat my fair share of pastured butter, ghee, raw cheese, wish I could get my hands on some raw milk, and I LOVE heavy cream.
Just be careful and make sure you buy cream WITHOUT carageenan. It's in the Organic Pastures brand and whole lot of other ones. I always make sure my cream only has cream in it. Yum!
As far as cell division goes...I'm a pretty robust healthy guy and I lift heavy weights (just started a Stronglifts 5x5 regimen, and I love it). I find that when I include dairy in my recovery process (whey, cream, whole milk, etc) I recover much much faster and build more muscle.