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Do you think a paleo diet selects for one or the other?

http://www.carlkingcreative.com/10-myths-about-introverts

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introvert but im too introverted to go into why – The hacker formerly knownasron Jun 26 2011 at 5:17
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Extrovert.

But according to the MBTI personality theorists we all pass through periods of extroverted and introverted behavior. These two books are those that I recommend to my students and I wish I'd read them prior to beginning college:

Do What You Are (Chap 7 is great for those over 40 as it covers the infamous midlife crisis.)

Please understand me II: Temperament, Character, Intelligence (This is the text most personality typing is based upon and is very dense.)

I started in Physics and soon realized that "One of these things is not like the others." so worked my way through Chem to the Biochem department and then to business school where I found my peeps. I'm now in the "Introverted" portion of my personality path and am much more attracted to details, working alone, and other introverted activities than I was in my 20s. The joke about me during grad school was that I was at every class and every party in the event anyone needed notes or gossip, that's an extrovert!

I also find it to be very interesting how many MBAs have issues with alcohol.

It is no surprise that there are 16 types: (Genetics, anyone? There is some interesting behavioral research on animals regarding personality typing where genetic traits are openly discussed but eugenics has limited human research.)

Here's a great graphic of the personalities: alt text

Expect to see a lot of "N" types in this thread as this trend requires a leap of faith to go against the medical establishment. "N" types tend to be innovators and early adopters.

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I've come to really hate these books. They are all "right", and all nail me to a 'T' (I'm INFP) - but none ever give me very practical advice. I don't want to read that 'I prefer to spend time with one or two good friends' any more... :-) – CaveRat Jun 26 2011 at 19:24
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So CaveRat...when was the last time you balanced your checkbook? Here's some practical advice: You need to marry an accountant (ISTJs are great because they think everyone is stealing from them and can turn a dime into a dollar.) You can do the clothes shopping to make sure you look great as a couple and your spouse can handle making sure the bills are paid. – Marie Jun 26 2011 at 19:58
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That's because you haven't discovered how fun it is to corrupt the ISTJs. Underneath their cool exterior is the heart of a freak just waiting to get out. You might want to try it ;) – Marie Jun 26 2011 at 22:33
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[*facepalm] --- Meyers-Briggs is simply a great way to platonify something that shouldn't be. Not good. – Patrik Jun 27 2011 at 4:45
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I'm an ENFJ. My personality type was checked when I was 8, and every few years it was done again. I did it again recently, to check, and I'm still an ENFJ. Always will be, probably. :)

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INFJ here too. We can practically hold a party! Just as long as we don't need to be in the same room...

Then again, selection bias here. Online forum with proper discourse will already skew towards IN. Plus, us FJs are "weird" enough that we see "normal" for what it is: something that what many people do. No surprise that we're more open to exploring other schools of thought.

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Introvert. Definitely.

ISFJ/ISFP, depending on context. Probably more ISFP these days.

Am I really the only S-type here?!

I think I've found that online presence probably selects for more introverts than extroverts. My personal experience has shown that the extroverts are more comfortable spending their time NOT at home at the computer, particularly in a social context. Introverts, I'd think, would find socialization/communication in the online realm more agreeable to them (ie. can pick and choose what conversations you really want to be a part of, can take the time to formulate thoughts, etc.).

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I just did the test now to find out as I haven't done it in a while... I'm ENTP, but according to the results I am 1% E and T so have marginal or no preference over extroversion/introversion and thinking/feeling. Interesting. The results have only slightly changed since when I did it over a year ago and I was ENFP then.

I guess it seems quite right for me as half the time I consider my self and extrovert and half the time im an introvert! :)

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I think forums select for introverts because they give you time to sort out a reply instead of having to speak immediately as you do face to face, and for Ns by relating topics under larger headings and collecting topic headings into a big-picture forum topic, and besides a lot of S types might be put off by the typos on forums. I think they select for thinkers because it's hard to really show your feelings or be deeply personal in a typed format. And they select for Ps because a thread can go on and on indefinitely. At least most forums are like that. So over time the longest-involved, most-frequently-posting members would tend to be INTPs. But I'm an extravert myself. I need time alone, but I process many thoughts interactively with the world, so I need feedback too. Extraverts become confused and foggy-headed if there isn't enough interaction.

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INTJ (or was it P?) There seem to be a lot of both on this thread!

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I've always considered myself an introvert and, like others have mentioned, I get much more energized by alone time. I enjoy hanging out with friends, but I get completely exhausted if it's for an extended amount of time. I'm good with one--MAYBE two--other people, but any more than that and I feel overwhelmed. I've always avoided conflict and been pretty much unable to disagree with others. I've got what others find to be an annoying habit: I'll tell you what I think you want to hear, but then I'll go and do whatever I want to do no matter what was discussed...I guess I'm stubborn, lol...

I recently took a Predictive Index survey and it, surprisingly, told me I was more of an extrovert. After thinking about it (for several days), I realized that I have been more outgoing lately.

Perhaps we do have cyclical personalities, but I am sure my extroverted side started to make itself known after I began a more paleo style of eating. I find I am more sure of my own decisions, require less time to work through all the details, I am more willing to voice my opinions, and I face conflict instead of shying away from it. Yes, people in general still exhaust me, but I'm no longer a pushover who avoids conflict at any cost.

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ENTJ though I consider myself somewhat introverted for an extrovert.

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I used to think I was a beautiful, unique snow flake until I discovered the ENTP personality profile. Then I realized I was not unique, but I WAS awesome, just like the other ENPTs.

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I think that if you visit practically any early-adopter internet place, you will find it heavily weighted with Introverted Intuitives. So, what is the personality type of all the Paleo folks who aren't replying here but are out playing with their friends instead? (BTW, can you guess my type?) A way to find Paleo more appealing to all is to have 16 approaches.

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Wow! Lots of introverts, and N - intuitives, which makes sense I suppose, since N's like to see the big picture and the philosophies & how things relate!

ENFJ/ENFP here!

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Sorry, Marie, I think you're a bit confused - I know the MBTI like the back of my hand! Those that hate policies & rules sound more like P's than Ns. And it is N's that are into big picture. E's are about Extroversion - how to you get energized. From the Meyers-briggs website: "Intuition (N) .... I like to see the big picture, then to find out the facts. " myersbriggs.org/my-mbti-personality-type/… – Paleolady Jun 27 2011 at 19:02
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I can agree with the "departmental differences" thing. I find this in relationships. I have a hard time with close personal relationships with N types. Not that I can't love them (some of my best friends are N types), but oh my gosh, pair an N type with general immaturity and it drives me (strongly S-type) up the wall. :) – Michelle Apr 12 at 6:38
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INFP, and I've had dozens of tests since I was about 15, most identical. I'm sort of borderline on the 'I' and the 'F' but red-lined on the 'N' and the 'P', so to speak. I have to say: it's a real pain in the butt sometimes. I mean the perpetual self-obsession, and not able to 'just have a good time' in an anonymous crowd just gets in the way far too often.

One thing that really helped me was to learn play music (fiddle music). We don't chatter much, except for a little between tunes, yet get into a nearly catatonic groove with each other when actually playing - so it's a wonderful combination of distance and of intimacy. Social dance is also good - it's physically very intimate yet boundaries are (must be) clear.

I don't think 'paleo' makes it any different though. It just is another topic to feel awkward around strangers with! I'd really like to meet people who share this kind of thinking - most of my friends and especially my wife have no interest at all. "just doing it", as all Introverts know, isn't as easy as it sounds. So I hope by learning and doing it for myself, I'll get to know some 'paleo' folks over time.

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Don't know my Myers-Briggs type but I am really introverted and shy too. I need tons of time alone, and even more to wind down if I've spent a lot of time around people. I don't enjoy socialising in groups and don't talk much in real life. Plus I have no patience whatsoever for most people my age and all the ridiculous drama and histrionic crap that passes for socialising among all of them. I can sort of pretend to be social but I can't keep it up for very long, it's crazy tiring for me in all honesty. One evening is my limit. I wish I was more outgoing though. That's one thing Paleo definitely didn't help. Even talking to clerks at the grocery store or whatever makes me want to run away. I'm trying to get better about it though, because unfortunately I know I usually come off as a complete bitch who thinks she's too good to talk to other people. Things have improved though! In my senior year of high school, I was told that in grades 8 and 9 all my classmates thought I was either mute or retarded because for the first two years I was there I almost never spoke or looked at anyone in the eye. My teaches called my parents in multiple times because they thought there was something wrong with me or something wrong at home. So when I feel bad about being introverted I think back to those days and think that maybe my personality will normalize as I get older :D

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I'm an INTJ, borderline INTP. I think it's fascinating, given the career recommendations for those two types (see chart), that I work in the legal profession doing design/publication work. Comforting to know that apparently, I picked the right career!

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Introvert. Not that I don't like other people, I just find that I feel best when I get a significant amount of time alone. I am a thinker first and foremost, my personality is tailored to contemplation and lofty ideas and without a significant amount of rumination and introspection I am not most effective in company and can't foster a self that I would be most proud of, it is like there is a necessity to push the boundaries of individual thought which I can't be satisfied unless I accomplish, so I do the things I need to do. I like to bring something different to the table to those whose identities are more contingent upon being part of groups and relationships. That is my role and I'll happily play it.

Philosophy and the art of intellectual exploration requires a degree of autonomy. Group-think is a very real and potent phenomenon and while an essential aspect of philosophy is discourse, if we rely too heavily on discourse and especially if we make our identities so contingent upon being part of groups and relationships, as if our own self is inextricable from them, and especially many groups and relationships, then we'll be prone to succumbing to mental conformity and stagnation, both in our personal growth but their relationships as well. Best not to be that regular at the pub who tells the same jokes and talks of the same things every day for 40 years, eh?

As Mihaly C writes in his book Flow, it would behoove extroverts to make the best possible use of any alone time they have to differentiate their personalities and worldviews so that they might be more valuable. Many do not do this and their time alone is quite boring and unproductive, even prone to anxiety. As is it important for an introvert to maintain relationships, which are also needed to become a complex, fulfilled and self-actualized person. In the end the two should ideally not look all that different, straying too far to the extreme is only ideal for a small minority.

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I haven't tested in several years, but I've consistently been INFP when I've tested in the past.

It must be considered that internet forums tend to be skewed towards the "I" side of things. Every time I've seen this subject come up online, there have been many more INFP/J types than would be expected in the general population. I'm going to guess that, if you did a survey at a CrossFit gym or something, you'd find many more "E" sorts than you would online.

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ENTJ. Have successfully and rewardingly convinced near and dear to go Paleo. Yay mobilization!

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It may come as a shock, but I am more of an Introvert. The idea of going out a lot in groups annoys me. I would usually prefer to stay home and read. However, if I do go out with friends: Watch out! In that case, I am pretty much like I am on here: a loud-mouth :)

I have never taken Myers-Briggs, but I suspect I would be an Intuitive type. I am an engineer and I work around a bunch of engineers, but my way of approaching things is much different than theirs. I have never used flow-charts, hate making lists to compare the pros and cons. I go with my gut. This makes me something of an anomaly in my work environment which I find to be too arid. It dries me up which is why I distract myself with Paleohacks so much during the day.

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INTP. Almost always, even on tests that have unusual questions.

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ISTP/INTP

Extroverts and Introverts will most likely disagree about which predisposes one more to "go Paleo," but personally I've found that my congenital loner-ness helps with Paleo.

I prefer to eat alone or with just one close person. I hate eating out or in big groups. Always have. Operating in this manner, I've long been in the habit of cooking my own food and not giving a rat's ass on whether it was weird or not (long before Paleo I ate lots of weird stuff and recipes of my own invention). Switching to Paleo, then, was an entirely personal matter. I didn't have to explain myself to anyone, or go through the hassle of trying to order Paleo items on restaurant menus. I built up steam that way and was able to see how awesome it was without anyone else trying to knock it down. Now, when I do happen to eat with Paleo, I'm still really proud of what I eat. I still hate eating Paleo in restaurants, and I try to avoid eating out - which would probably be harder if I was an extrovert and loooooved going out with people all the time!

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INTP. I was on the cusp of P/J though....

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I did the Myers-Briggs thing years ago, and I discovered something weird. I can change my type by changing what I eat. If I'm eating a more SAD diet, I'm an ISTJ. If I'm eating more low-carb/paleo (I was low carbing at the time, but I low carb without all the extra "junk". Just real food and no grains.) I'm an INTJ. This worked for me really well because I was doing a lot of writing at the time, and I found that I wrote better when I was in that INTJ zone.

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Definite Introvert... INFJ ... I think introverted intuitives would be more likely to spend time on internet forums ... though I could be wrong ... and INFJs ... well, we are already square pegs in a world of round holes ... Paleo just makes us more eccentric ... Weeeeee

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INFJ from birth.

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NTP, sometimes E and sometimes I, depending on what job I have at the moment and how many people it brings me into contact with. (I've had several positions and the MBTI seems to be a popular team-building activity so I've also done the MBTI several times.)

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ENFJ. Overall, the Paleo folks I know are all pretty much extroverts. I think you have to be to withstand the bull crap you get from others when bucking CW. :-)

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INFP/INFJ ...depending

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INTJ! Though I have somewhat broken out of the introvert shell with my sarcastic personality. Or perhaps it's just my way of dealing with the stupidity in the world...

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Thirty years ago i was ESTP, but now somewhere between ISTP and INTP

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