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So I love to ferment, and, especially in the summertime, my kitchen counter is full of bubbling crocks and jars. I have been wanting to make some fermented condiments, especially ketchup, but the only recipes I can find have whey and sweeteners added. I always ferment vegetables just using salt to get it going, but I am wary of experimenting with no guidelines at all(not wanting to be potentially wasteful). Does anyone have a whey and sweetener free fermented ketchup recipe to share? Any other fermented condiment recipes would also be much appreciated. Thanks! Oh, and also, my husband says that no one will like totally unsweetened ketchup, fermented or no...I disagree, but may be biased by my lack of sweets consumed...so what do you all think of unsweetened ketchup? Remember, it will have lots of herbs and spices, plenty of fermented tang, and everything is tastier homemade!

flag	asked Jun 27 2011 at 4:08 Rogue Nutritionist 11.8k●1●6●23

	Unsweetened ketchup rocks! I just found some at the food co-op and have been addicted to it since. The flavor is a little stronger, so you need to use less. Deeeeeelicious! – A at Grain Free Diet Jun 27 2011 at 8:19
	Agreed, unsweetened ketchup is awesome. Here is the recipe I use --> notinmoderation.wordpress.com/2011/06/18/… Good luck finding a recipe for fermented ketchup! -Ryan Wilder – Ryan Wilder Jun 28 2011 at 20:47

wood · Accepted Answer · 2011-06-28 04:03:06Z UTC

I made my probiotic, fermented Ketchup with organic tomato paste, salt and spices of my choosing. To get the tart sweet taste of Ketchup and to ferment it I added Kombucha to the desired consistency. If you don't make your own I would recommend getting one of the sweeter flavored ones to add. You will not add a lot, so the sugar content won't be high and it will be a quick ferment.

PS mine is still fresh and tasty 3 weeks after making it so I believe the Kombucha has as much fermenting power as whey.

lunabelle · Answer 2 · 2011-06-27 04:25:29Z UTC

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I only have Sally Fallon's Nourishing Traditions Ketchup recipe (that you probably already know, includes whey).

Any chance you could tolerate whey made from full fat raw milk yogurt?

Also, I found this (about Fallon's recipe) on the Mothering.com message board:

I made it without whey, I think I added about half as much additional salt as was required, since I was worried it would taste too salty. I've never made it with whey, so I don't have a taste comparison, but it preserved fine. Next time I'm going to use my new stick blender and puree it before putting it into the jar, because the chunks of, I think it was garlic, are a bit weird, and I think off-putting to my daughter.

answered Jun 27 2011 at 4:25

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Oh! OH! Even better! On the Nourished Kitchen website, Jenny says she makes it without whey by using a packet of vegetable starter culture: nourishedkitchen.com/homemade-ketchup It's Fallon's recipe, but scroll to the bottom where she has notes ans substitutions. – lunabelle Jun 27 2011 at 4:29

Also, IRT unsweetened ketchup, I think I'd personally add a blended date or two. The very subtle sweetness will help feed the fermentation process, and offset the acidity of the tomatoes. Cooked, blended carrots might work as well. – lunabelle Jun 27 2011 at 4:37

lunabelle beat me to it...I was going to give you the link for the nourished kitchen ketchup. it looks SO GOOD!!! I'm dying to try it out once our tomatoes ripen! – RR Jun 27 2011 at 15:25

Jenny's recipe sounds really good...I was thinking of trying it with sun dried tomatoes, and my own little tweaks...I'm just going to go for it and experiment like I always do! – Rogue Nutritionist Jun 28 2011 at 22:06

andrew · Answer 3 · 2011-06-28 08:09:57Z UTC

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Do you make sauerkraut? If so - why not try adding some of the liquid from that - I haven't tried it myself, but I reckon it would give a good kick start to any fermentation....

answered Jun 28 2011 at 8:09

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Good idea! Thanks... – Rogue Nutritionist Jun 28 2011 at 22:06

Desperately seeking fermented ketchup recipe!

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