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From leangains to IFing there are so many examples of men losing fat/gaining muscle, but as women's bodies are playing a different game (or so it seems), I'd love to compile the successful strategies that have worked for Paleo females.

What fat-loss strategy do you swear by? How did you lose weight? How did you get those abs? Which way is the beach?

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great question! – being Jun 29 2011 at 13:50
this is a great thread. I've always been interested in women's control of their bodies, especially in light of the skinnyfat imagery that is blanketed over our society. Anyhoo, all the answers sound great. I'd just like to mention that keeping up and reading everything below I am seeing that every answer could have been written by a man. Not arguing the validity of the thread at all, just that its interesting to note that I hear very similar things from doods. – ben61820 Jun 30 2011 at 12:05

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In my personal experience I had success prioritizing exercise in the following way:

  1. Heavy weights

  2. Intervals - sprints

  3. Bodyweight circuit training

  4. lots of walking and hiking with my kids

Things that helped with diet:

  1. no booze - yes water, yes coffee, yes green tea

  2. no snacking - yes three distinct meals

  3. no fasting - except when I sleep of course.

  4. carbs - yup, very low carb as a "lifestyle" doesn't work for me. The time that carbs work best for me is at night.

Again, this is what works for me personally.

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I think this would work for pretty much anyone. Personally, I do better with snacking, but I do think it's more mental, being a former binge eater, than it is a physical thing. – sherpamelissa Jun 29 2011 at 14:13
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I tries leaving you a comment melissa but it keeps kicking me out. I was reluctant to post anything here because your answer was so complete - also because you intimidate the hell out of me. Looking at your photo I think the ladies should just ask themselves WWMD (what would melissa do) and go with that. Also, calories are real - I don't think 1200 is unreasonable. – none Jun 29 2011 at 14:37
Why would I intimidate you meredith? Everyone's opinion is helpful, people should look at all the options when trying to lose weight. I started from morbidly obese. I believe you started from already a healthy weight and were just looking for something more optimal for health/fitness. They are all valid points. – sherpamelissa Jun 29 2011 at 16:57
Low carb and very low carb cause me to plateau. – StephNY Jun 29 2011 at 17:28
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I am intimidated by your fabulously jacked arms - and your impressive score -:) generally I see you as one of the cool kids - but I am neurotic and just have to get over it. :) – none Jun 29 2011 at 19:34
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I got my BF% down where I want it by concentrating on eating clean food and doing HIIT bootcamp style workouts.

I keep my calories right around 1200 calories per day. The ratios that work for me is Fat 50%, Protein 25/30%, Carb 20/25%. Also, no booze. Yes. None. That was when I was truly concentrating on a goal. For day to day maintenance, it's fine.

The HIIT work was mostly body weight type exercises, tabata style, along with some kettlebells thrown in occasionally. I did this 3 days a week for 20 minutes. You have to really believe in the HIGH INTENSITY part though and DO IT. You have to be exhausted when you are done and truly push yourself.

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You notice no negatives keeping your cals that low? – cliff Jun 29 2011 at 13:59
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I think I am stuck this way forever, honestly. I was eating 1400+ for a little while and I gained about 5lbs over 2 months. It was fun while it lasted, but a huge wake up call that my body just doesn't tolerate more food, even if it's 100% Paleo. I think I damaged my metabolism too much during my obese years. I lost most of my weight over 4 years, the last two have been losing the last 10 lbs and then maintenance, so if it was going to get better, I would think it would have happened by now. – sherpamelissa Jun 29 2011 at 14:12
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I don't think I am "normal" by any means. If a person has been mostly healthy/fit their whole life, they can tolerate so much more. I do think what I have experienced is pretty common for the formerly obese though. It's part of why so many people have such a hard time keeping off 100+ pounds. It's really not an issue for me. I am not usually very hungry and once in awhile I let go and don't worry about it so much, then get myself back on track. It's a lifelong commitment to stay fit though, that's for sure. – sherpamelissa Jun 29 2011 at 14:18
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I haven't tried that to reset anything, but when I was actively losing I would cycle my calories. It worked best for me to cycle them higher on the weekends, but still eating good foods, then back down on weekends. Cycling the calories helped me mentally to not have to be so strict on the weekend, plus it seems to help with weight loss. I'm really only talking about going from 1200 to 1400 though for one day a week. When I really needed to hit a goal though, I stayed strict the whole time. – sherpamelissa Jun 29 2011 at 16:56
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I'm so glad you posted the calories. I am very comfortable on 1200 day and don't care for people who say I'm endangering myself. I eat until full and full is not 2000 calories. Curious...how tall are You and what type of body frame do you have? – baconbitch Jun 29 2011 at 17:43
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Women's bodies and their response to exercise and food and not ENTIRELY different from men, but they do indeed differ. Having at once been over 300 pounds and now sitting at 150, I know that it took a lot of hit and miss to determine the right balance. I myself, had totally screwed up my adrenals/insulin and now to stay lean I have to take in protein at least every 3-4 hours, stay away from ANY simple carbs, and (like Melissa) no alcohol and I too keep my kcals at 1200 or under. For the fitness side, I vary my workouts, but always run (because I love it) 3 times per week. Interval (HIIT) cycle three times a week and lift (also interval) five days per week. Abs will show, but it does take effort.... Biggest thing to remember though, is that there is no ONE PERFECT WAY... you can read the advice, but you have to do the work and find what suits you.....

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Low cals/moderate carb + HIIT = \o/ – sherpamelissa Jun 29 2011 at 14:11
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I think that men and women can be very different in terms of weight loss strategy. No, not always, but frequently. For instance, my husband has to eat at least 100 carbs per day in order to maintain his weight. I have to VLC in order to lose weight and not go over VLC by too much in order to maintain. For the women and men in my family, this rule of thumb has been consistent.

What works for me:

VLC (under 20 net carbs per day)

70/25/5 fat, protein, carbs

I don't have to worry much about calories. I eat until I'm full and land around 1700-2200 per day. If I cut calories, even upping fat, I will get hungry.

IF several days per week

Maintain muscle by lifting light weights

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I think IF is a great tool to have in the arsenal, but I also think it's not be used until your body can handle it. You have to use it the right way. I know that previously "fasting" was just my word for the restrict portion of my horrible binge/restrict cycles. I had to learn to use it for the right reasons and not as punishment for "bad" eating. – sherpamelissa Jun 29 2011 at 17:13
And forgot to add that I walk about 45 minutes a few days a week to keep my slow twitch muscles from becoming/continuing to be insulin resistant. – Annie Jun 29 2011 at 17:43
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Disclaimer: I have never been obese and am probably pretty genetically blessed when it comes to my weight. Having said that, this is what works for me:

  • More carbs, less fat. I eat a lot of sweet potatoes.

  • Lower calories, like 17/800 would be a very active day's intake. If I don't do much exercise I only eat around 1300. I'm only 5'2 and pretty small-framed so that's not as low as it would seem. I've heard that 30 years ago, the average woman ate 1500 kcal a day, which strikes me as reasonable.

  • Lots of walking, minimal sitting. I also have a fairly physical job right now.

  • Two meals a day most days. Large high-carb breakfast and a smaller dinner.

  • This is paleo sacrilege but regular cardio- I love it and it doesn't make me ravenous. No screwing around on the elliptical at level 1 though, stuff like 7-mile hill runs and speed intervals where my tongue is hanging out of my mouth at the end. Also fasted cardio a few times a week. Yes, I know I really really should do some lifting or at least bodyweight stuff, also.

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Don't feel like you have to answer this, but, how old are you? – g. Jun 29 2011 at 18:59
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Funny how different everyone is. Lower fat, higher carb just leaves me hungry and if I were going to exercise that much, I would need way more food (calories). – Annie Jun 29 2011 at 19:16
@Annie, I think part of it may be age difference. [Doing a great job, i might add.] If i had been living that healthy in my late-teens/early-twenties maybe I wouldn't be in the half-sunk boat i'm in now. Heh. I was hot-stuff back then, (albeit 'skinny-fat') but rocknroll took it's toll! Sigh. I guess i can also blame gluten and hormonal birth control. – g. Jun 29 2011 at 20:02
Oops, Bracketed statement is @Olivia. :) – g. Jun 29 2011 at 20:15
Grenadine I'm 18, almost 19. I'm totally aware that what works for my body will probably change as I get older, but I kind of hope that at least it will be mitigated by the fact that I won't have decades of bad eating habits to undo, unlike most people my age who are still eating tons of crap because, well, youth is very forgiving : I might also add that I have genetics on my side because everyone in my family is slim and my mom (who I'm basically a shorter version of, body-type wise) has stayed thin even after kids and more recently menopause..don't know how significant that is. – Olivia Jun 29 2011 at 21:24
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I have to be really low carb to lose fat. I eat lots of animal fats, no dairy except a little butter, rarely nuts and seeds, rarely fruit, lots of low sugar veggies, plenty of animal protein. If I start adding in too much fruit and/or nuts and seeds, I gain weight. When I have occasionally tracked what I eat, I'm always surprised at how few calories I consume(average of around 1,000). When I'm eating vlc, I'm just not as hungry as when I add more carbs. The largest I've ever been was when I'd been low fat/vegan while pregnant and then breastfeeding...I was so hungry all the time, and never satisfied. My metabolism is very slow from years of eating disorder and vegan/vegetarianism/low fat eating; and having done the higher carb paleo thing randomly interspersed with vlc over the past ten years and ballooning out every time, I imagine I will always need to eat vlc with a very occasional fruit/nut indulgence.

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The basic stuff that works for guys should work for females.

I wouldn't get to concerned with trying to have Abs as having that low of a BF as a female isn't that healthy.

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I disagree! I think it's definitely possible to have abs at a healthy bf%. I guess I'm interested in hearing what has worked here for the ladies and seeing if and what the difference from men is. For example, IFing and/or eating one big meal a day doesn't work for me. – LiveBigger Jun 29 2011 at 13:19
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AS far as losing weight go's it depends on the person, it can vastly vary from person to person. What seems to work for most people is to focus on building muscle while eating enough calories(starving yourself will just sabotage long term weight loss). The more muscle you have the easier it will be to get to your ideal weight and eventually you will come to a balance. – cliff Jun 29 2011 at 13:38
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you cant overestimate the influence that womens hormones have on muscle gain and fat loss. i think its a pretty different ballgame. – being Jun 29 2011 at 13:51
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@ Cliff even though I agree the basics are the same, fat loss isn't as easy for us- the female body usually "wants" to hang onto fat much more, we're smaller with less lean mass and need fewer calories, and our hormonal environment is kind of stacked against us. Don't underestimate the effect those things can have. – Olivia Jun 29 2011 at 17:04
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i totally disagree with this. The toughest outs for me in clinic are the formly morbidly obese females. I have to help repair their minds first, leptin second, and all the other hormonal issues that come next and then deal with the loss of hypothalamic neurons from the obesity damage. Tough outs. Guys are way easier to manage because they are not as hormonally complex. – The Quilt Jun 29 2011 at 20:06
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