Paleo Diet and Paleolithic Diet Questions & Answers

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My wife is just starting menopause and has started to get a little dry. She went on a 30 day meat only diet and the juices were flowing again like she was 20 and her sex drive also increased - neither of which I complained about. The problem is that within days of adding veggies back to her diet (100 grams of carbs daily), dryness returned.

She did the meat only diet for another week to see if it was coincidence and after 2 days on meat only she felt relief. The problem is that she doesn't want a meat only diet but would like some natural relief.

So the question is other than a meat only diet, are there other paleo foods that can help? Have any older women experienced something similar?

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Voted up for bluntness. – Ryan H Jul 9 2011 at 2:23

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This is pretty common. MDA has a thread over there where we talked about this very issue in long thread. Just keep feeding her meat. I usually tell women in menopause to stay below 25 gms of carbs because they all have pregnenlone steal syndrome to some degree and a bit of leptin resistance. Eating strict paleo really boosts their sex steroid hormones. – The Quilt Jul 9 2011 at 2:38

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"Just keep feeding her meat." – Phoenix Jul 9 2011 at 2:54

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As a post menopausal woman I suggest using coconut oil topically as a lubricant. – MauraZehuva Jul 9 2011 at 3:20

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When Will she post "hack my husband's penis"? – baconbitch Jul 9 2011 at 16:20

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Rose · Accepted Answer · 2011-07-09 02:38:52Z UTC

Well, I don't know about other paleo foods that can help. But I'm perimenopausal, 47, and I've been meat-only for two years now (why does that make me giggle in this context?). I had been VLC before that for about two years. So: I went from around 300+ g carbs daily to about 20g, and then down to less than, oh, 3g or so (toting up trace carbs in eggs, organ meats (giggle again), etc.). And I can tell you that the benefits of dropping those last bits of plant matter were far greater than you'd expect, proportionally speaking.

Not only did I lose weight, constant gnawing hunger, and joint pain, I gained a great deal of, ah, zeal. It's not something I've mentioned often, but my husband walks around now smiling like that guy in the male enhancement commercials -- and no, he didn't buy any of that stuff ;D.

As far as variety is concerned, I do snack on macadamia nuts once in a rare while (they don't seem to have a huge effect, binge-wise) and seaweed, and I make sure I eat lots and lots of different kinds of meat, including seafood, poultry, and game meats. Honestly, I don't feel bored at all, although I understand if other people do.

But if she reaaaally doesn't want to go meat-only, and if it's not a problem for her to switch back and forth between meat-only and veggies, maybe you guys could work out a cough schedule or something?

Thomas Seay · Answer 2 · 2011-07-09 03:49:34Z UTC

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Ok, I am BRIEFLY coming out of retirement for this question and this question only.

My brother, you'd better give your wife ALL THE MEAT YOU GOT. Otherwise, she's going to become a vegan and start doing that 30 Bananas A Day thing, and you ain't going to be ONE OF THOSE BANANAS.

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Tee hee!! That was awesome!!!! Vegans do want nothing to do with meat!!! Hahahahaha!!!! :) – Wendy Jul 9 2011 at 4:09

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Can you please clearly explain your motivation for retirement? If it is simply being sick of the "hack my hemorrhoids" or "will my dick become bigger with Paleo", then cool...I get it. But in my limited participation here, I have valued your input. Bring it brother! – Aravind Jul 9 2011 at 4:12

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What Aravind said. – Rose Jul 9 2011 at 4:20

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i see. it's clearly a challenge to see if we can incite him to respond. – smartcookie Jul 9 2011 at 12:39

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Yeah...he just wants attention :) wants to feel needed. Its cuz meredith and I took down our torso pics! – baconbitch Jul 9 2011 at 16:18

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Ambimorph · Answer 3 · 2011-07-09 08:31:23Z UTC

You know, there's a lot of leeway to explore between 100g of carbs a day and meat only. Why not try another experiment at, say, 25g a day, and see how that works. If you choose non-starchy vegetables, that actually leaves some generous servings.

Like Rose, though, I still find a huge difference between 25g a day and meat only, so you might still find she has to go lower in carbs to get the best results. This has me wondering if there were other benefits she found during her experiment, that combined with the sexual benefits would be enough to make the idea more compelling. For example, why did she try this experiment in the first place? Did it work for that?

I don't really mind eating only meat, but it did take some getting used to. On days when I feel myself inclining toward boredom, I opt for more expensive cuts, like ribeye, or steelhead trout, or lamb. It's worth the extra cost to me to stay satisfied.

Anne · Answer 4 · 2011-07-09 03:05:43Z UTC

I am post menopausal and noted a big difference when I dropped gluten - that was years before I went low carb paleo. I also had a complete reversal of my stress incontinence after eliminating gluten.

Don't believe the docs when they say, "you are getting old, what do you expect."

sallycinnamon · Answer 5 · 2011-07-10 04:40:04Z UTC

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Thinking outside the, erm, "box", how about exploring bio-identical hormones? There are other requirements for our hormones aside from a lubricated vagina and healthy sex drive.

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plus one......you think like me. I also love resveratrol for the sex drive because of its effects on nitric oxide synthetase and mitochondrial function. It also effects PDE2 paths and leptin sensitivity. – The Quilt Jul 10 2011 at 5:31

The hacker formerly knownasron · Answer 6 · 2011-07-09 03:24:09Z UTC

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Gladly. Oh nvm. I got the wrong idea. Next time maybe rephrase the question?

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turkeytyme · Answer 7 · 2011-07-09 04:17:24Z UTC

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My suggestion would be to check into traditional Chinese herbs that supplement kidney yin. Kidney yin is basically estrogen and estrogen is the hormone that keeps you lubricated. I would think that herbs would fall under the umbrella of paleo.

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Most of us peri-menopausal gals are actually low on progesterone, and estrogen dominant. Using a bio-identical progesterone cream for hot flashes also caused me to be extra juicy. – Tikivana Aug 15 2011 at 21:26

Christopher · Answer 8 · 2011-10-28 19:27:40Z UTC

I would be willing to wager that the dietary substance called LECITHIN plays strongly here in this equation. It is found mostly concentrated in meats and eggs. It helps both men and women with body functions that require lubrication (women's vagina, men's cowper's gland and joints). For those of you that don't know what a cowper's gland is, it is the gland in males that produces pre-ejaculate, you know, everything but the sperm which is why some males take massive amounts of the supplement in the hopes of a flood Noah would be proud of.

Lecithin can also be found in plants such as soy beans (yuk) and as a dietary supplement at the pharmacy.

Again, the subatance is called Lecithin and may help reduce a parched vagina's thirst.

soysucks · Answer 9 · 2011-07-09 02:40:17Z UTC

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hahaha..your question made me laugh out loud for real. Dont know an answer..maybe try different veggies..but for god sake, keep her on the meat, and tell everyone you know about this

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Kitty · Answer 10 · 2011-07-09 03:56:24Z UTC

Going paleo has definitely helped me in that department. I don't mind eating lots of meat and fat and very little vegetables. I keep my carb intake below 50g most of the time and just eat lots of different types of meat, and I also have coconut oil and eggs.

Josh M · Answer 11 · 2011-07-09 06:37:16Z UTC

Since going VLC paleo sex drive & stamina have gone way up. I was not slouch before but now my girlfriend complains about getting too much attention (it's just for show though lol). I am 47 and she is 32 and I really do feel 25 again in many ways. When I do eat a lot of veggies it certainly affects my energy, etc. So I get lots of sun light, I take some supplements and stick to eating mostly meat. People often ask me what I am on, I tell them I am 'on meat'.

Deborah105 · Answer 12 · 2011-07-09 18:14:23Z UTC

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Upvoting because I had NO IDEA meat could help with this issue.

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Haha, meat definitely helps with these kinda issues. the right kinda meat tho, with the right presentation ;) – OptimusPrimal Jul 9 2011 at 21:02

It's all about the meat. Quality meat! – AdrianaG Oct 29 2011 at 1:23

Yeah, true that...been regulating my fluids (is there a less medical term than vaginal fluids or a less foodie term than juices? curious), and noticed some dryness. Might "medicate with meat", as they say (apparently).. – JeJ Mar 9 2012 at 1:17

Melodie · Answer 13 · 2011-07-09 20:14:48Z UTC

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I think it's nice for females to have a good sex drive too. It's even nicer when it results from natural changes such as ketogenic diet.

I'm happy with ketosis! :-)

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OptimusPrimal · Answer 14 · 2011-07-09 21:08:50Z UTC

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Just a suggestion, but why dont you guys have like "Meat Week" so she doesnt have to give up her veggie and nutrients

Next question up, "Hack: Meat Weak" for the paleo guys out there. Now that would be the topic not to miss

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dsohei · Answer 15 · 2011-10-28 22:06:01Z UTC

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does this very low carb/zero carb approach work for men too? because i havent had that experience...

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No'ena · Answer 16 · 2012-03-09 01:01:32Z UTC

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Dude... Really? I doubt your wife would appreciate her vagina being on a blog for all to see... Good grief!

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where? I don't see a vagina? – Crowlover Jun 13 at 2:24

Keirsten Alana · Answer 17 · 2012-04-12 23:38:10Z UTC

Coconut oil works as a natural lubricant. It is good for treating fungi-related infections, itchiness, and is a great skin-care product. I am actually in the process of putting out a complete body care line with coconut and almond oil-based products... all of which are completely edible and are food-based products. Check back soon!

wally · Answer 18 · 2012-10-03 01:45:17Z UTC

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MMMMMM MEATY GOODNESS!!!!

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MPie · Answer 19 · 2013-04-28 20:42:02Z UTC

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In for the sexy-time!

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Arlokk · Answer 20 · 2011-07-10 16:31:58Z UTC

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Hack my wife's vagina. Really.

The double entendre of physical violence, associated with an axe or machete, against female genitalia is probably the most literally misogynistic thing I've ever seen. Most vagina hacking is done in Africa, and it's called female circumcision.

And this community of little boys upvotes it more than any other thread on the site because somebody said vagina.

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Not sure if this is a joke post or not, but I literally never thought of hack in any other meaning other than as "a way to solve everyday problems" as used in the title of the website. I did use the word vagina because, well, that's what it's proper name is. If I wanted to be crude I'd have used pussy or some other slang term. – mth Jul 10 2011 at 16:38

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How can you possibly browse this website, Arlokk, when the very title contains a term that is used to represent physical violence associated with an axe or machete? It must be a nonstop, day-in day-out source of trauma and victimization for you, being forced to browse this website for your Paleo needs. In all seriousness, if I made a sweeping comment about how the community of little girls on this site got offended because someone said vagina, people would call it as it is: sexist generalization. Flip that coin over and ruminate. – Mitschu Jul 10 2011 at 19:12

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And please don't bring up genital mutilation in 3rd world countries just because it somewhat features females and thus fits into your narrow world view. Genital mutilation still occurs on a daily basis in America, England, Australia, Germany, etc. but nobody cares about that because it only occurs to boys, and is called "circumcision." – Mitschu Jul 10 2011 at 19:20

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If someone said "We're going to hang Obama with this recession," I'd smirk at the unintentional pun. It's called black humor, and it's perfectly healthy. (And damn, there was another pun.) I would not condemn them for it, especially since it was unintentional. I'll leave that to the PC police who are afraid of the power of words. And dancing around something, with the intention of stating it, but making others infer it - does not make you any less aggressive, it just makes you passive aggressive. – Mitschu Jul 10 2011 at 19:46

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I didn't downvote your comment, but I'd have to say that your statement "The entendre of violence to female genitalia is obvious" is only true if you're looking for negatives. Neither I nor my wife thought of it and only used hack in the manner that it has been used hundreds of times on this site and in the manner the term is supposed to be used on this site. I apologize that I offended you or anyone else, but you really did find something that wasn't there. What I find humorous is that I thought if anything, people would be offended by vagina. – mth Jul 10 2011 at 21:17

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