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I enjoy a couple of beers three or four times a week, but I've come to realize that I really need to stop drinking the stuff. I wonder if going cold turkey would be better than trying to gradually wean myself off? Or would you recommend not going for total avoidance and allowing an occasional beer? Thanks in advance for your suggestions!

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I used kombuca.. – Bread-Eating Beelzebub Jul 12 2011 at 3:31
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i used kombucha too. – g. Jul 12 2011 at 3:34
Adding another vote for kombucha and also the sparkling water with lime essence. This does the trick 90% of the time, the other 10% I just treat myself to a beer and make sure it is REALLY a good one. Living in Portland, great microbrew is EVERYWHERE. – Sabrina Jul 12 2011 at 4:07
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I used wine (and the occasional tequila). – wjones3044 Jul 12 2011 at 13:20
kombucha and malbecs for me. No beer in 7 years. – The Quilt Jul 12 2011 at 16:06
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I had a friend casually mention to me, in reference to my then 1 year old son, something to the effect of "Hard to be a good dad when you're going out on a bender every night". He was exaggerating for effect (because my drinking was more like two or three beers five or six times a week), but it took.

I stopped drinking that night. (Well, technically the night before). That was a few years ago.

These days I'll have an occasional glass of wine with dinner, or a cocktail with friends (which happens VERY rarely (see above re: my young son)), but I'm pretty much a non-drinker.

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I'm fine with people drinking but awww what a wonderful gesture as a father. :) – Allie Jul 12 2011 at 13:15
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so your advice is to have children? – RicoPags Jul 13 2011 at 3:45
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@RicoPags - I guess that's a decent followup question. But no, my advice is that if you find a reason that's important to you to make a change, you'll make a change. If you can't find that reason, then maybe that change isn't important enough to you. – Casey Jul 13 2011 at 13:16
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If you have decided that you really need to quit and it's only a matter of how, then cold turkey is the best by far. Rip off that bandaid and get to it.

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In my experience with paleo, weight loss, and autoimmunity over the past year, "the beer issue" has been the bugbear constantly lurking in the woods of my subconscious. If you have a love for good beer (hoppy craft brewed IPAs are my downfall), using the same strategy as you did for quitting cupcakes just ain't gonna work. For one thing the buzz is not the same, cupcakes don't make you feel temporarily invincible, and rarely in my life have I ever met up with my closest friends for a round of cupcakes after a tough week at work. Grab a six of cupcakes and go sailing for the afternoon? Only if I want to get thrown off the boat.

Sorry...I'm being facetious. My point is that, for some people, a relationship with beer is complicated (not that cupcakes aren't, it's just a little different). I tried many of the valid approaches suggested here. I switched to crappy beer (maybe I'll stop liking it), light beer (fewer carbs...drink more!), wine and hard liquor (oops...now I drink it all), gluten free (that sucked), and quitting cold turkey (more wine and bourbon please). Only one thing actually worked: L-Glutamine. I swear, that harmless, tasteless little powder broke me.

My thinking around my relationship with beer changed after watching Fat Head (Tom Naughton). I realized that my craving for beer and inability to let it go was basically an addiction to sugar and the metabolic roller coaster it puts me on. His movie and podcast interview led me to Nora Gedgaudas, who explains the whole sugar-alcohol addiction mechanism, and she recommended L-Glutamine as a solution. Once my "addiction" was broken, I was able to have a beer or two every now and then without developing a daily craving. That took about 3 months. Incidentally, I still drink but lean more toward vodka, bourbon, and wine. Cleaner buzz, less bloat (not as satisfying, however, on a hot Saturday afternoon...).

So it depends what you really want to do. Enjoy it in moderation or break the "addiction". If it's no big deal, try dialling it back. If you want to learn to resist its siren song, give the L-Glut a try.

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Funny you mention the actual addiction to carbs - in Dan John's book he commented that he was amazed how much of his "alcohol problem" was simple thirst, and by drinking himself stupid with water every night he actually curbed it. – Joshua Jul 12 2011 at 13:48
I get that. I rarely ever feel like drinking after a meal, so in the early stages of the battle, I would stay paleo-full as much as possible. Water helps with that too. – Riveted Jul 12 2011 at 14:31
I upvote and second the sugar addiction-beer consumption connection. My desire to drink has essentially disappeared along with my reduction of dietary carbohydrate. – FED at LiveCaveman.com Jul 12 2011 at 18:43
Verry interesting Riveted. Thanks for that. I am going to look into L-Glut for sure. – John Naruwan Jul 13 2011 at 13:15
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Cool. This is the article I first read about it in: primalbody-primalmind.com/?p=428 – Riveted Jul 13 2011 at 14:10
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Hard liquor and mixed drinks for me for the most part, followed by various ciders.

I have recently developed a taste for brandy. I had been looking for a liquor that I could drink without having to mix it and brandy and cognac are what I have settled on. Tito's vodka proudly states it is gluten free, and it is really good vodka for the $. They should have a plaque dedicated to my liver in their headquarters.

There are some really good gluten free beers out there. Bard's Tale is really top notch. Even Anheuser's Red Bridge isn't too bad.

Personally I think fermentation is an ancient way of food preservation and should be considered acceptable in moderation.

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Most people just aren't going to ditch beer for life, your best bet is to realize if you are going to inbibe then pick the worst of your evils. As Mikey said hard liquor is your best bet. I love beer, and occasionally I will drink a beer but its rare these days. I am not a scotch man and find drinking more like I do food now - quality not quantity. A good scotch is incomparable. But for your regular drinks whats wrong with dry white wine when you want a refreshing drink mixed with some carbonated water? Or tequila+lime+carbonated water.. or vodka water or hell pretty much any hard liquor lol – CR Jul 12 2011 at 13:22
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I am also in the "why bother?" brigade. If alcohol is messing with your life then by all means take whatever steps you need to get things under control, but if you are giving it up under the guise that it is not "paleo" then perhaps you need to re-think that.

We already know that animals know how to get a good buzz on by eating rotting fruit (and shaking a tree down to get at more of it), so its not like alcohol consumption doesn't occur in nature when the opportunity presents itself.

On this point, just like saturated fat, Cordain is wrong. Check out this post from The Paleo Garden:

A Matter of Life or Myth: The Drunken Monkey

why humans love getting high (Part I)

Enjoy!

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Michael, thanks for the shout out for Loretta's piece "The Drunken Monkey." I'm a big fan of your writing. My home/work tempo has prevented me from participating in the ongoing paleo dialogue in recent months, but I read your site and comment on other sites with interest. Tu ne cede malis, sed contra audentior ito! Best Regards, Zach – ThePaleoGarden Jul 14 2011 at 0:10
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...but I read your site and your comments on other sites with interest... – ThePaleoGarden Jul 14 2011 at 0:21
Thanks Zach. You have a great go to article when the subject of paleo and alcohol come up. – Michael Jul 18 2011 at 18:01
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Hard Apple Cider!!!!!!!!

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Gluten Free!!!! – Jeff Jul 12 2011 at 3:13
YES!! Wandering Aengus cider is most wonderful. I like the Wander lust version, but the varietals are good too. I keep looking for other ciders but they are hard to come by up here. Watch out for cheap kinds that tend to be carbonated sugarwater with booze in them. – Mikey Jul 12 2011 at 8:48
I like Crispin Hard Cider. I also will drink red wine or a vodka & soda water with lemon. But, I can't have any gluten. I know many people who just cut way back on the beer. – Diana Jul 13 2011 at 2:33
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I'll throw you a curveball...why bother? I'm very VERY paleo except for beer. I love beer. I can't imagine a day on the river without a Tecate or a post surf Stone Pale Ale. Don't beat yourself up...just don't overdo it.

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why bother? really? why bother doing anything ever? – g. Jul 12 2011 at 3:49
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I agree, I went completely off beer in January and it totally messed with my mojo. My lifts went down, I was not as jovial. I do way better with 2-3 beers 3-4 times a week. Cider is gluten free, but it has too much sugar for my taste. – KT Jul 12 2011 at 4:06
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Fully agreed. Beer is my hobby, so I’ve made it my primary cheat, which means I try to cheat a lot less with anything else – most of the time it’s my only cheat. However I’m currently trying to cut my consumption to 1–2 bombers per week and switching over a bit to whiskey. Much harder to try a large variety of whiskeys though. – Seiji Jul 12 2011 at 4:56
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I switched to whiskey, the key of course is being careful, if you're used to beer, it can go down a little too quickly and you can get shithoused kinda quick. I order a glass of ice water to go along with it, and a whisky and an ice water goes down in about the same time as a beer did. Keeps you hydrated and the hangovers at bay as well.

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I second the hard apple cider!

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I switched to a glass of red wine with dinner, so far so good.

That said Cordain says an occasional light beer here or there isn't an awful thing.

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Weaning yourself off of beer sucks. But you weaned yourself off of cupcakes right?

Personally I feel OK when I have one or two beers and they are made from barley malt. If I have a wheat beer I get destroyed. I also slowly lost my ability to drink beer and not get super hungover so that has cut my consumption.

Have beer if you want, but stay away from wheat beers. Try gluten free beers, but barley-made ones are probably OK. If you're going to drink beer, get GOOD beer. Don't drink budweiser. Not worth it.

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I switched to wine. Although, I think if I was in the US, I'd give it up for water. It is so watered down anyway......bloats you. You have to drink a gallon just to get a buzz.

I think I will start making some cider though, If I can't find any.......but what's the point really...just so I can justify may naughtiness by saying its "Paleo"?

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Kathi...do you really not know about the American craft beer scene? Our commercial beers are watery but we have hundreds of world class breweries. – Tim Jul 12 2011 at 15:05
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Ah! A question that is near and dear to my heart. I'm deeply involved in the homebrew/beer community where I live. I work events, partner with other homebrewers to work on flavour profiles, work and attend beer pairing dinners, cook with brew, blahblahblah. My life is very beercentric. So.. I'm in it unless I quit it.

What I did was literally go cold for two months. No brew at_all. I did miss it especially on days when it was warm and a cold really hoppy IPA would have been amazingly tasty. If I was going to drink it was whiskey or vodka - but kept that at a serious minimum, about a total of 4oz a week during this time frame, sometimes none. I actually chose bars that had bad beer on tap just so there was no temptation, especially if something exceptional was available. After the two months were up, I added brew back in only as an occasional 1/2 pour or a 2oz taste and not a full pint. I feel good and don't need more than that. Whiskey and vodka are still my main go-to's.. especially Rye's. Rittenhouse or Templeton? Yes!

If anyone is interested, I can suggest a few gluten free brews that are actually quite decent: Estrella Daura - fruity, light, nicely effervescent, New Planet Off Grid Pale Ale - a bit sweet but still has a nice bitter hoppy finish, Sprecher Shakparo - tasty, nice and clean, very lambic like but not sweet. Good luck and cheers!

PS: I didn't stop the beer for Paleo, it was more of a reset to my body, physically I wasn't feeling that great with my pints. I definitely feel better when I don't have too much brew so my tastes are satisfactory and I appreciate what I'm drinking more than ever. Current favourite: Lambrucha, a sour/wild ale combo of tart lambic with kombucha, a low ABV that goes down frighteningly easy. Egads, tastycakes.

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I too was a huge fan of beer. Drinking, brewing, discussing, discovering new types... but when I decided to go paleo I cut it out with all the grain products. Life was lousy for a few weeks or so but I got over it and no longer miss it.

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Beer makes me ill. Moreso the stricter my diet becomes. And I was a beer guy... brewed my own and everything... even ran a homebrew supply shop in the early half of the last decade.

I have scotch whiskey with water occasionally (I made a new years resolution that I would not buy the same bottle/brand of scotch more than once this year... so far so good), or the "Nor Cal Margarita". Lately, Riesling...

Sparkling mineral water is what I drink when I'm through with the day.

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I love the Gluten Free beer called Estrella. That being said, if I really needed a beer (maybe once every few months), I would have a Beck's light and forget about it. I eat zero gluten and a beer just doesn't bother me.

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I homebrew, and havent given up beer, but I partake very infrequently (maybe 1-2 beers a week). Dont notice any ill effect.

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This is an extreme example but is effective. According to one of the videos I had to watch during my drivers safety course after getting a DUI several years ago, it is about genetic disposition, environment, and availability. So I took several corrective steps to stop alcohol consumption. First was to consider alcohol as a toxin to the body and damaging to my health. I read and listened to self help guru/ psycologist Dr. Robert Anthony about putting yourself in a trance. I also used this trance technique to go 100% paleo, considering sugar and processed foods toxic. Another video I watched compared the use of heroin for 40 years to 40 years of heavy alcohol consumption. The heroin addict was messed up but alive. The alcohol abuser dead for 10 years. The video pointed out that alcohol was the only drug that affected every part of the body at once. Second step was to stop hanging out with my beer drinking friends. I also recommend filling the gap with something constructive. We all have ways of coping with stress, alcohol being one, but if we don't deliberately fill the void, we can develop another bad habit. In my case I started over eating.

I've always wondered how we in paleo land can be so embracing of alcohol and so anti everything else that is industrialized when its consumption clearly leads to adverse health outcomes such as alcohol indused dementia. I believe in the arguement of moderation but it can be a fine line and a terrible justification at times.

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Hops tincture or tea. Beer, especially those super yummy, hopped to the rafters IPAs that make me drool, are essentially a dilute hops tincture in a yeasted grain base. I finally came to realize that it is the hops that keeps me coming back for more, and what provides a good part of the buzz for me. I think there may be something about using alcohol to extract the goodness, so tincture may be preferable to teas, but I like them both. Added benifit, no bloatiness.

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Yeah...once you get the taste for hops, it's all you think about on a hot summer day (cold winter night, moderate fall afternoon, drizzly spring morning...you get the picture). – Riveted Jul 13 2011 at 13:09
Tell me about it. Taking alcohol completely out of the picture, I wonder if hops are addictive on their own? – Happy Now Jul 13 2011 at 19:57
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With wine and liquor ;)

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