I know the Paleo people are intelligent.. I know the Paleo society is filled with people who think for themselves and have the knowledge to understand the world around us. My question is.. do you think the U.S. economy is heading for a total collapse?
If this happens it will be survival of the fittest.. you know?
Let me know where you think the U.S. is going!
Yes get ready. I have a stock pile of steel headed spears that I've been forging. Plus I've been sprinting for practice. I will see you on the plains Derrick.
Uruguay has a 3:1 cow ration to the population (3 1/2 Million people/ over 10 Million cows, I'm heading over there! =D
Major economic problems? Yes. Post-apocalyptic hellscape? No.
The US will almost certainly experience a government debt crisis within the next five years, leading to a crash either in Treasuries, the dollar, or (probably) both. That will cause a serious recession, much higher prices, or (probably) both.
That sounds pretty bad on the surface -- but while it won't exactly be fun, but it won't be a "collapse" or Armageddon either. Currency and bond market crashes happen, and always have happened throughout history (even here), and life goes on.
The standard of living in the US been artificially high for many years because, as a nation on the whole, we've been spending more than we earn for a while now. Once we get back to living within our means the aggregate standard of living will decline. That's simple math.
But our standard of living will still be vastly higher here in the US than in most of the world, and better than at any time in history (the past decade notwithstanding). And anyway, productivity improvements and true, sustainable economic growth will slowly raise it up again over time.
So there are still some big imbalances to be worked out and there is some pain to come, but we are a long, long way away from "survival of the fittest."
So there's no need to stock up on solid gold ammo and salt pork for the impending zombie apocalypse. That said, I do think it's crucially important to pay attention to this stuff from the standpoint of your investments, as these issues will have a giant impact on financial markets over the coming decade.
All of those people who make fun of me for having 47 guns (yes I count them, as I oil them down while nude) and stockpiling ammo will starve while I eat anything .000 buck will take down!
Better question, is the world headed for economic collapse? The U.S. goes, so does the rest of the world. Anyway, yes, we keep forging ahead in our various military adventures something's got to give. I don't care if you're an anti-militarist like me, or a "Hawk". I just don't see how this kind of expenditure is sustainable.
It's a serious question.
The US is a leading power in the global capitalist system.
It is increasingly stuggling to maintain its domination in the imperialist competition and relies heavily on military power, debt, speculation and the like as it is seriously weak in the fundamental productive sector which generates mass unemployment.
Capitalism everywhere is in crisis, a worsening crisis which goes back almost 40 years when the post war boom petered out.
We are at a historic crossroads, the social crisis caused by the attempt to keep profit rates healthy could push the working class to attempt to replace capitalism, imperialist war could escalate to world war and then there's the environmental question.
I think, yes, eventually. Not for awhile though. I focus my efforts right now on being as healthy and fit as possible, learning skills that would be useful in the case of some kind of collapse (permaculture gardening, animal husbandry, cooking and sewing - basically everything our grandparents knew how to do) and saving money to eventually buy a house and land that will provide for 90-99% of what I need to live.
I try to live my life as simply as possible by walking or biking most places and going without things like processed food or shampoo, both to save money and to acclimate myself if those things become unavailable. I'm not really into the whole stockpiling weaponry aspect... I'll leave that to the menfolk for now.
I thought the topic will be closed as totally irrelevant... but what I see instead is a free ride for fans of apocalyptic movies... the silly little troubles that America is going through now? NOTHING compared to what most of the world is dealing with on a daily basis for ages. We still are privileged, generally not poor and not starving. And the crazy fascination with guns and ammo, which is very symbolic for America in my mind, explains why European forensic specialists come here to learn about gun wounds. I think all this panic is raised only by people who live already pretty well, not noticing that in their own cities there are thousands of people living on the edge of poverty, children with no care, no nutrition and guns introduced too early on. Seriously, turning to guns obviously doesn't work.
There is economic distress in the US, but it is much worse in many other parts of the world. The US still has one of the strongest if not the strongest economy in the world. Over the next 5 years I expect the US economy to get stronger in relation to other economies since capitalism and wealth creation is the best long-term economic plan and the US has it in spades.
The US and global economies have been through worse crises before, for example in the 1930's. There are no reports of unemployment at 50% and soup lines to hand out food to the starving as occurred after the Great Depression. More like people are struggling to pay for their cars and TV's.
It might be a long while (5-10 years) before we get back to the level of prosperity that most people of this generation enjoyed for most/all of their lives, but I don't think it's quite time to build that bug-out shelter just yet.
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