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Short Summary: Leaky gut for 3 years (thanks to a high dose antibiotic). Symptoms: Constant inflamed/swollen digestive tract, gas-burping-bloating from hell, and constipation.

Testing & trials reveal high IGG allergies to casein, eggs, gluten. Eating those foods cause noticeable worsening on my current symptoms Not eating those foods I still have the above symptoms. My diet is autoimmune paleo -still the same symptoms.

Should be noted that I have seen every kind of doctor and provider and have had all the standard tests and more. I have tried everything under the sun -from autohemotherapy to over $1K in probiotics to acupuncture to every kind of digestive enzyme to iv vitamins. (also including everything on Dr.K's recent leaky gut post except the last option). Not a damn thing has touched this issue.

The common procedure has been to have me avoid those IGG foods while I do mass amounts of treatments (see above) to heal the leaky gut.

A new provider (I know you might guess who it is, but thats not the point here) has suggested that dairy and eggs are necessary to heal the leaky gut and that I had been eating them the wrong way -creating that inflammatory response. By food combining and a few other things, I should heal my gut while overcoming these intolerance's. This provider wants me to limit/expand my diet to: Beef, Broths, dairy, eggs, oj, raw carrots, cooked apples.

What do you think? Should I risk confronting my IGG intolerance's to egg/casein head on? I am super nervous!

Thanks! Note: I have nearly given up on health care professionals so yes, that is why I am asking you guys!!

UPDATE: The eggs had to go after 2 weeks. Serious allergic reaction, despite the food combinations meant to stop that possible reaction. I am still on the raw milk. Still feel moderately better than normal. Month UPDATE: I am still on the raw milk and the rest of the diet as listed above (minus the eggs). I am feeling better than I have in 3 years!

Oct 20 Update: Thanks to some good advice, I found a brand of eggs that doesn't supplement with Soy feed. Worked! Have been eating 2 eggs a day for past 3 weeks with no bad reaction. However the Milk thing was a total bust! I drank grassfed raw milk every day for 2 months and I was experiencing horrible breakouts, GI upset, and weight gain. (Not so from other dairy products). So the Milk is off the menu. (I have even been working with a enzyme therapist, who claims that enzymes can make me digest the milk properly, not so!).

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asked Aug 3 2011 at 16:00

Senneth
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Do you know why OJ is being recommended? – Marie Aug 3 2011 at 19:55

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Apparently the sugar/carb in OJ will reduce the potential for inflammation caused by the egg. I am not fully satisfied with the explanation -but at this point I am almost willing to try anything -regardless of explanations. – Senneth Aug 3 2011 at 20:48

Hmmm...I was looking for an 'acidity' issue. Tropical (high acid fruits) aren't particularly favored by people with your issues..unless you also have GERD issues...? – Marie Aug 3 2011 at 21:43

No GERD, no heartburn or nausea. This is a tough nut to crack. – Senneth Aug 3 2011 at 22:15

Wow, you react to soy in eggs? That's hardcore :D! Now that I think of it, I could very well be coping with the same issue since I don't tolerate eggs either. What kind of allergic reaction do you get, Senneth? I was fed a lot of soy when I was very young due to lactose intolerance. Also, does calcium help you? – Korion Mar 5 2012 at 19:03

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PersonMan · Answer 1 · 2011-08-03 16:48:16Z UTC

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Hi Senneth. Should I avoid egg whites? I don't know how to detect the symptoms of 'leaky gut' but every time I consume them they are causing flatulence. I am consuming approx. 12 per day as I follow the old bodybuilding style lifestyle. Cheese on the other hand has no effect. Also would probiotic substances assist(eg. cultured butter, raw meat)? Any advice would be great.

answered Aug 3 2011 at 16:48

PersonMan

	Hey Personman, sad to say I might be the wrong person to ask! I react poorly to eggs, and have a IGG positive reaction against them, yet I might still be trying to eat them! So basically I am all in a tangle. I never tried just egg yolk vs egg white. It was easier just to cut them out. You could try the doc I have been consulting with's advice and drink some OJ with the eggs. (I know juice!! I might be murdered). I haven't tried it yet. Gas is usually a symptom is improper digestion, so people will tell you take enzymes or probiotics. – Senneth Aug 3 2011 at 17:00
	Also Personman..I should add that no probiotic substances of any kind (probiotic pills, homemade yogurt, live sauerkraut, kombochu,etc) has had an effect on me. Many people have great success with those and they are worth a try. – Senneth Aug 3 2011 at 19:18
	I've found the cultured butter to vastly improove mood. I wonder if this is due to the 'probiotic' properties...? – PersonMan Aug 4 2011 at 1:28

Matt · Answer 2 · 2011-08-03 20:35:22Z UTC

I am sorry you have spent so much with no sucess.

I can guess who you new provider is.

If all the things that you have tried before have not helped then what have you got to lose by trying something new?

Why not give it a go with an open mind and report back on the results.

It could be doubted that the IgG antibodies are a cause of your problems if not eating those foods has not improved your situation. The IgG test results may just be a result of your intestinal problems.

A at Grain Free Diet · Answer 3 · 2011-08-03 22:02:44Z UTC

Oy. I've totally been there. Actually, I'm still there. (I told the short version of the story in the comments of this post, but there's far more to it. Let's just say we have the same digestive system.)

If it were me, and I suppose in a way it sort of is, I don't hate myself enough to touch eggs, dairy or gluten and set off the craziness that would come. I like being upright instead of on the floor in the fetal position sobbing, KWIM?

Two things that I have found that are helping immensely:

2000mg MSM per day for inflammation (I've been using Jarrow powder, but just find one that is gluten free)
Enzymatic Therapy IC Pearls (no affiliation, just a fan) I've been on more probiotics than I can think of, and I picked these up purely because I hit a sale and had a coupon so they were only $1.75. They've done the best out of any probiotics I've tried. Luckily I snagged 4 packages at the sale because I love these things!

Other than that, I do a lot of bone broths - particularly ones with chicken feet for the extra glucosamine, which is also good for the intestines, but large doses of L-Glutamine by itself does not too great things to me. And I also keep my diet simple to try to calm everything down. One thing I will mention... watch the mayo. For whatever reason I completely forgot that mayo contains eggs and set off a nice bout of inflammation putting some on a burger. Sneaky stuff those eggs.

Hope that helps!

Dragonfly · Answer 4 · 2011-08-09 01:03:43Z UTC

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Getting my Vitamin D sufficient has helped with all my food sensitivities/intolerances. Have you had your D3 level checked lately?

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answered Aug 8 2011 at 22:53

Dragonfly
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	Ya, a few months ago. It was very low - I had been supplementing 5000iu for about a year prior. I am still supplementing the same, but getting more sun. I plan on upping it as fall begins. – Senneth Aug 9 2011 at 16:45
	Have you had your vitamin D checked recently? Vitamin D council says you gotta supplement more than 5000IU just for maintenance. – Korion Mar 5 2012 at 19:05

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