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There has been so much talk about food reward here and on Stephan's blog. What about food unreward? I'm talking about things that deter you from overindulging.

Some I'm thinking of include

  • bad aftertaste (ssam paste)
  • difficult to cook
  • requiring advance planning (all the meat in my freezer)
  • weird flavors (the seaweed icecream I ate a Sky Ice recently)
  • funky aroma (natto)
  • roommates who leave the sink full of dishes so you can't cook
  • knowing too much about where your food comes from (makes it hard to indulge in meats from unknown sources)
  • gross concept (Balut, insects)
  • getting food poisoning
  • living far away from everything
  • seeing overweight kids buying soda at the local gas station
  • a too-tight belt

Unfortunately it seems like many of these have been operating in my daily life lately...and yes, I've lost weight. Does food unreward affect your diet?

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*being too hot out to cook/eat/think. – being Aug 9 2011 at 2:37
getting a cold - i.e. can't smell. Forced nose-clipping. – ddibwynt Jun 3 2012 at 3:31

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Watching Food Inc. has helped cut down on emotional snacking. Plus living far away from the city life has helped. Plus, I keep sugar out of the house. I control my environment a lot by necessity. When you're on a budget you buy the essentials. Also, hard to lose vanity pounds deter some of my food habits but I'm making yet another attempt at cutting peanut butter out of my life. Damn you peanut butter!!!!

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just think of the aflatoxins! – Bread-Eating Beelzebub Aug 9 2011 at 3:00
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I know that being on the penultimate day of my first whole30, not being able to consume butter (I almost always use salted butter) makes the effort of preparing/eating veggies a lot less appealing. So less palatable veggies = little to no veggies where I'd otherwise have eaten lots.

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I'm new to Paleo and just got some coconut oil. It's great where I once used butter. The smell makes me feel like I'm in the bahamas all the time :) – liquidki Jun 2 2012 at 16:15
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Being Japanese...or at least 1/2 Japanese, I grew up loving natto. For me, it's got a high reward value. All the way down to the funky smell and the stringy weirdness. I ABSOLUTELY LOVE IT!

So, I guess the reward value is relative to your culture, because this guy (points at self) can strait up make-out with a bowl of natto.

But don't forget, it IS a legume. Tsk tsk. :)

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(total aside here, but your name is cracking me up- i have a friend who is also half japanese and half mexican who calls herself "japexican" and is a militant vegan. i love it.) – being Aug 9 2011 at 3:08
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akd, a vegan Japsican? They make those? :) – The Japsican Aug 10 2011 at 1:33
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As per 23andme.com, and those taste-test strips, I am a super duper super-taster. So bitter hints ruin a lot of foods and drinks for me--including spinach, coffee, whiskey, and all that.

Luckily, that means that I can forage more safely and avoid poisonous plants.

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What are the taste test strips? I swear my daughter is a super taster, she is uber picky not just about food groups, but she can pick out really subtle differences. – sherpamelissa Aug 9 2011 at 14:02
I used PTC strips...indigo.com/test-strips/taste-test-strips.html – Kamal Aug 9 2011 at 14:09
I am a super taster (my high school bio teacher made us use those strips -my shirt got ripped on the 1/2 class mad dash to the drinking fountain). But I love the taste of bitter things like coffee and grapefruit. (I also got to take the PTC strips home and test my family, for a genetic assignment, it was pretty funny) – Senneth Aug 9 2011 at 17:33
Wait? They can taste gross? Yeah, not talking the 9 year old into that one. I can't even get her to try chocolate ice cream! – sherpamelissa Aug 9 2011 at 17:39
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It's funny, I usually eat just about anything, always with flavorings that aren't unhealthy, but if you put it in front of me I'll eat it. I haven't been grossed out by something that people would actually call food, and the decision to eat one food over the other is just ordinary preference, or intellectual having to do with nutrition. Just as palatability doesn't necessarily determine food reward, it doesn't necessarily determine disgust either. Remember Stephan's goo-tube-fed human guinea pigs? The overweight ones ate only a little while the lean ones ate close to their energy expenditure. I think that under normal healthy circumstances we have the instinct to eat to maintain a setpoint regardless of palatability. Although we won't eat something that is poisonous or infectious.

That's just dealing with taste rather than emotion like the example of fat kids drinking soda. Not entirely sure about that one.

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Do food allergies make your list, M-HGL?

I am allergic to all crustaceans; my reactions to even very TEENY, TINY, MINUSCULE amounts of shrimp, crab, lobster, and crayfish are HUGE unrewards in my diet. I avoid them entirely - I do not even care of the smell of them; although I am told that fresh crustaceans do not have any odor.

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Pregnancy. Food aversions + morning sickness (the kind that lasts 24/7).

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Even without the morningsickness those food aversions are killer. I had a super restricted diet (like 5 foods) my first trimester because almost all food was disgusting, and the smells of disgusting food on someone else's plate would kill my appetite entirely. – jj Aug 10 2011 at 21:43
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The only thing I need to keep from indulging or over indulging is my free will to chose what I eat, it's all about choice.

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Trying to exit Costco via the food court is totally enough to turn me away from pizza. It smells like grease and full garbage cans and old condiments. Not to mention watching the SAD overweight families stuff their faces. BLECH! Even food poisoning from coffee can't turn me away from it. I am pretty sure it will have to be pried from my cold dead hands.

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The concept of "rewarding" yourself with food has always made me feel uncomfortable. I get embarrassed when I hear adults say they are going to "reward" themselves with some food item because they've been "good." That just sounds like something Buffalo Bill would shout down a well.

I am more swayed by the unreward. Once it makes me feel really sick, the food is dead to me.

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Wait. What? I thought "reward" in this context ("food reward") has an entirely different, specialized meaning. But I agree that the idea of treating oneself with food can be problematic (although deep-rooted in every culture--feast days and celebrations, anyone?). – tdgor Jun 2 2012 at 14:17
@tgdor - I probably misinterpreted the post, sorry. I have a knee jerk reaction to the term food reward and for me it always conjures up images of people feeding themselves garbage just because they've successfully gone without eating garbage for a set amount of time. I think there is a world of difference between the cultural and religious significance of food versus congratulating yourself for eating the food your body needs by feeding it something it doesn't. I also think it perpetuates a really unhealthy relationship with food. – Marcy Jun 2 2012 at 14:44
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Food unreward is how I stopped binging on SAD foods. I spent a solid couple of months fully paleo, then fell hard on some foods that I didn't even eat pre-paleo (I'm talking half container of ice cream, loaf of bread, box of cookies hard). I felt awful, recovered on paleo foods, but a few weeks later, I did it again. And again.

It's been a month since my last binge, and I can confidently say there won't be another one coming. I realized there was no pleasure in eating the "good" foods—at least not more than healthy foods—and that the costs (glycogen storage/fatness, digestive issues, dehydration) were too high to continue.

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