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Hi, I am new to paleo and I have been having a cup of heavy whipping cream in the morning and I love it. I am not ever hungry, I read that heavy whipping cream had no insulin effect and so I sort of went crazy with it. Is this way too much fat? I could drink this all day long.

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Don't forget, you do need some protein, and cream is essentially all fat. But if you do get your needed protein in a few eggs and some beef, say, I don't see anything wrong with drinking cream for the rest of your daily fuel. – Robert Katz Feb 18 2010 at 5:28
Stacy, I agree with Robert. There is nothing wrong with drinking the cream. Some beef, egg yolks especially, wild Salmon,and chicken or beef liver on that plan, with a few herbs or vegetables, if you eat plants, will give you well rounded nourishment. It is merely the propaganda we've heard for a long time that can make us feel guilty about drinking or eating cream. I eat cream every day. I'd have to eat butter or spoonfuls of beef fat to get enough fat, if I didn't have the cream. And I like cream. Have you read Dr. Kurt Harris' 12 steps yet? paleonu.com/get-started ... – PaleoGran Jan 15 2011 at 12:45
(I do eat butter and spoonfuls of beef fat, as well as my cream.) I have been reading about various pastoral tribes. In some of the reports, there is mention made that the women eat more dairy than the men, and that the men eat more eat. If I can find the articles again, I will post links. I don't always bookmark things I read. Please do have a look at Dr. Kurt Harris' site. His recommendations have helps so many of us. Sending you best wishes. :) – PaleoGran Jan 15 2011 at 12:51
I apologize for the error. That should be "helped so many of us". – PaleoGran Jan 15 2011 at 12:52
I could be wrong but I think he was asking is there a limit to how much he should consume daily. I also kind of wonder.. input anyone? – Todd Jan 16 2011 at 0:50
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Some people feel that dairy of any kind is not paleo. While this is certainly technically true (dairy is a neolithic invention), cream is the result of separating the fats from the carb & protein content and the remaining fat breakdown is similar to that from other animal sources (and arguable a little better in some regards). This question discusses this issue with regard to butter.

The calories probably aren't a concern for you if you are eating the same or fewer calories overall (as what you've said seems to indicate). However, I'd be concerned about the vitamin content from consuming a large portion of your daily calories in the form of cream. Take a look at the nutrient balance for heavy cream versus a nice cut of beef. The fat content is similar but beef blows away cream in terms of nutrients.

For me, heavy cream is a regular addition to my diet. I use it for making sauces and for occasional drinking, usually in the form of a smoothie. It's one of those things that's great in moderation but over doing it could be harmful in the long run due to the nutrient issue.

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Thanks for all your kind answers. I am trim at 5'5" and 123lbs and I have always been into nutrition. I don't like to be hungry and I have to say, I eat mostly out of habit due to all the fat in the cream. I ordered the Taubes book and I hope I can get everything together to get the right nutrients. Does anyone have other suggestions as far as VLC cook books? – Stacy Feb 18 2010 at 1:02
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Not paleo. You are lacto-paleo, or some would say primal. I am also lacto-paleo.

Just be careful... heavy cream is like crack! I could drink a gallon in a sitting. Add anything coconut (especially coconut milk), greek yogurt and butter to the crack list also.

Super easy to rack up lots of calories and pack on fat if your carb count is too high.

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Yes, coconut milk / yogurt / almond butter are so binge-inducing. What starts out as a small bowl of whole milk yogurt usualy ends with me eating the whole tub. Maybe it has something to do with the texture? – kylemurphy Feb 18 2010 at 7:04
I've found yoghurt uniquely addictive too! I wonder if it's the fact that dairy protein is especially insulinemic. I've thought that maybe relatively strong insulin response would produce more (entirely short term) impact from the food, as the calories are rapidly are forced into cells (ditto grains). If it's dairy in general, it could be all the opiates from casein. Certainly the texture is very "palatable" though, perhaps it's not surprising that easily consumed/digested calories have an appeal. – David Moss Feb 18 2010 at 8:57
I disagree with classifying a heavy cream drinker as 'lacto-paleo' for the simple reason that heavy cream has only trace levels of lactose remaining. Milk, lacto-paleo -- heavy cream and butter, not lacto-paleo. – Paleo Dave Feb 18 2010 at 23:15
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Paleo Dave, The prefix "lacto-" is derived from latin, and it means "milk." It does not refer specifically to sugar. In fact, the word "lactose" is probably much newer than "lacto." "Lactose" is formed from the prefix "lacto-" plus the suffix "-ose" (sugar), so "lactose" is literally "milk sugar." The consumption of any dairy product, not just lactose-containing dairy products, can make one "lacto-paleo." Mr. Grok is etymologically correct here. Cheers, – Ed Feb 20 2010 at 19:37
Yet many would feel the term is unnecessarily pedantic.. – Henny Jul 20 2011 at 22:39
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Yes! Isn't this fantastic? I started drinking cream after reading about Peter (of HyperLipid)'s diet. Here's the post that got me started:

http://high-fat-nutrition.blogspot.com/search/label/What%20do%20I%20eat%3F%20%281%29

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I'd think twice about anything that's addictive to you.

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Agreed. This is my only problem with heavy cream. If I'm not careful I end up getting a lot of "empty calories" from it. That said, it's a very economical source of calories. – wjones3044 Jan 15 2011 at 18:37
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I don't know about too much fat, but you may want to be careful about calories. If you really mean a cup of heavy cream you are talking about 821 calories. LINK

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Yes, I have been drinking this for weeks and weeks and I haven't gained a pound. I guess it's obvious why I'm not hungry. – Stacy Feb 17 2010 at 23:51
I disagreed with the down vote on this answer, so I voted it up. – Ed Feb 18 2010 at 1:07
The "calories in/calories out" principle is based on wrong science i'd say. Have days that i eat over 4k calories (I'm not that big), so long as its fat and protein, you will likely stay at your ideal weight. – Jaap Feb 18 2010 at 8:44
Good points about not focusing on calories. I was not trying to advocate calorie counting, but sometimes it is good to be aware of the caloric density of the foods we eat. The link I posted does offer up detailed nutrition information including complete fat and protein breakdown. – AllTooHuman Feb 18 2010 at 14:46
There is a point were eating too many calories will cause weight gain in a portion of society. Liquid calories can allow you to go higher in calories. – Eric May 13 2012 at 17:46
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I subscribe to the PaNu version of Paleo. Even though dairy isn't considered "orthodox" Paleo, my experience has been that without it, it can be difficult to maintain enough fat intake.

One approach is to look at your total fat as a percentage of calories, which seems to be much more important than total calories. If it's in the range of roughly 65% to 80%, you're probably fine. If it gets above 80%, then just cut back on the cream a bit (I mix mine with raw milk, to make half-and-half).

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I love to shake together a couple of eggs with my cream. Sometimes the whole egg, sometimes just the yolks, (keep the whites for an omelette later) makes a lovely creamy post workout drink.

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Cream is of course a tasty source of healthy fat; enjoy it daily, but I personally recommend doing so in moderation.

Cream is very rich, and you do not want it to crowd out your consumption of fatty animal meats, which should be the foundation of your diet.

I eat and enjoy cream myself. Try some paleo ice cream: 3 eggs, 2 cups cream, 1 stick butter and a handful of crushed pecans (butter pecan, my personal favorite). You might also try adding some unrefined coconut oil or coconut milk instead of the stick of butter (coconut cream, my second favorite).

Enjoy!!

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How do you make this paleo ice cream? Is it possible without an ice cream maker? I have played with making ice cream before with mixed (not good) results. – Alan Jan 16 2011 at 8:08
Very easy. A basic rich vanilla ice cream is: 3 cups cream, 3 raw eggs, 2 tsp vanilla extract and 3/4 cups sugar (with paleo ice cream, you leave out the last two ingredients; you might also add another egg). To make ice cream, whisk eggs and sugar together, then whisk in ice cream and vanilla extract, and then freeze. – Steve Jan 22 2011 at 3:39
Ideally, you'd freeze for ~25 minutes with an ice cream maker. If you don't have one, just place in freezer and make a point to stir every ~15 minutes or so until it starts to set. You can also add a few nuts just as it sets and stir in if you'd like (or, better yet, add a little melted butter when you make it, and then add pecans as it starts to set to make butter pecan). – Steve Jan 22 2011 at 3:39
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I use a lot of heavy whipping cream. I limit myself to avoid getting too much vitamin A and too much ruminant trans fat (CLA and vaccenic acid). Both are great to get in moderate amounts, but both can be overdone. I still have about 400 calories per day from dairy (mostly butter and heavy whipping cream).

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CLA and vitamin A are good for you – Durandal Feb 18 2010 at 22:26
Well duh, Durandal. We all need retinol. But the question is, is exceeding your retinol by about 10 times your RDA good for you? I do it - from heavy cream consumption mostly - and I feel good. But I worry sometimes. – animalcule Jul 20 2011 at 20:43
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Anybody have problems with the casomorphines in cream? I poured a perfectly good quart down the drain when it put me to sleep one evening, and I remembered the research regarding how the opiate effect can do that... I love heavy cream. Apparently I just need to moderate how much I consume!!! I only ate 3T., I'll try again. The ice cream recipes are calling my name!!

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Was it just cream ? No other additives, stabilizators, etc ? I find if I drink a whole cup (240ml), I sometimes start sneezing or get some weird feeling in my head, slighty uncomfortable. – Ikco Jul 21 2011 at 7:49
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I eat/drink heavy cream in and with everything, like it's going out of style. It gives me the extra calorie boost I need (I'm too thin, active, and 'cardio' is a part of my daily life that isn't going anywhere - I bike to work, walk my dogs, work on my feet) and it's delicious.

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I add 8 tablespoons to my whey protein shake 2x per day. 600 calories 50 grams protein 40 grams of fat..tastes awesome. I am a strength athlete who desires to keep my weight under control and stay as lean as possible due to my age (39) Gone are the days of an all out assault on carbs. I follow the anabolic diet, which is basically related to the paleo, but with carb loads on weekends, of which i use sparingly. I look at it as more of a cheat weekend mostly consuming hamburgers etc.

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8oz Heavy Whipping Cream, 4oz water, 2 teaspoons unsweetened cocoa powder, 2 grams stevia, blender = yummy! And you will be satiated for hours.

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