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Before I get flamed for asking... I realize that this isn't the ideal diet.

But just out of curiosity, and for other reasons (e.g. to drastically minimize food reward, or to save time), I'm wondering what 3 foods (and only those 3) would be the most optimal.

I'm thinking this:

  1. Pastured eggs
  2. Sweet potatoes
  3. Liver occasionally (1-2x/week)

I'm even thinking just eggs and sweet potatoes would suffice.

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One of the impressions I've gotten from the food reward stuff is that it's not just avoiding variety and flavourings... But also avoiding calorie density. Starch is highly rewarding, and any added fat makes whatever your eating more rewarding, especially carbs. I've been thinking back to when I tried protein-sparing modified fasts, my appetite was strongly and quickly reduced, and I reduced down to below 800 calories eating nothing but relatively low fat animal protein... Fish, shellfish, pastured eggs and beef. It's highly effective, but as you've pointed out, probably not optimal. – Katie Sep 16 2011 at 19:03
Katie, have ever eaten a plain steamed sweet potato? Ugh, just plain awful. I was trying to eat these for lunch and lost weight, weight I didn't need to lose. – Bread-Eating Beelzebub Sep 16 2011 at 20:41
Is steamed sweet potato different than plain baked? Plain baked sweet potato is decadent to me. – vdh1979 Sep 16 2011 at 20:59
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A plain, peeled sweet potato nuked until soft tastes like cake to me. It's almost too sweet (but not quite). – Tom R. Sep 16 2011 at 21:23
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How is a dog that is eating steamed sweet potatoes "raw fed"? – Warren D Apr 3 2012 at 6:31
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I think this is another unhealthy consequence of the food reward theory, and shouldn't be entertained.

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I definitely think nobody should do this (I'm a big proponent of eating a large variety of food to spread out hormesis), but I still think it's sort of a neat thought-experiment. – Seiji Sep 16 2011 at 18:55
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im going to eat nothing but resveratrol :P – DH Nov 25 2011 at 21:40
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I think food reward is not about monotonioous couple of ingredients diet, or did loose something during translation.

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Oh good, so it isn't just me who is confused by this – Vrimj Sep 16 2011 at 19:45
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So all these silly mini-lists come out of food reward avoidance? Paleo means survival, and survival means more variety not less IMHO. Grok would starve before he tracked down his first liver. He didn't have a car and Whole Foods. Would a modern paleo starve in China before eating a rewarding bowl of rice? – thhq Sep 16 2011 at 21:36
It's in the posts. Large group of posts, but notes other cultures that eat quite a bit of a few foods. Actually, SAD does that too: its' wheat, corn and soy. – The Loon Sep 18 2011 at 3:04
Yes but food reward is much more than that, most SAD foods are scientifically tricked to be rewarding. Crispiness, balance of salty and sweet, MSG. You could make soy to be very unrewarding, or highly rewarding, just using the correct fats, texture, spices sugars etc... – Jan Sep 18 2011 at 4:44
Crispiness does a whole lot, they did a MRI brainscan on this when researching batter coating for fish&chips, and it effects. – Jan Sep 18 2011 at 4:45
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  1. Whole cow or sheep

  2. Whole salmon w/roe

  3. Seaweed

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P.S. I'm doing this because it is fun, not because I believe in the food reward theory. – Happy Now Sep 16 2011 at 20:48
you're cheating! Whole cow means meat and liver and other organs :D – Paul Sep 17 2011 at 23:17
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I apologize for nothing! ;) Cow is a whole food, which can be broken down into a variety of tasty meals. Just following suit with the whole chicken crowd. – Happy Now Sep 18 2011 at 6:23
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Maybe I missed it, but I don't see how this question got bent to a "food reward" post. I don't know enough about food nutrition density and which three would be the "optimal" foods. However, if I were given 3 foods to eat and sustain myself, I would choose:

  1. Grassfed ground beef
  2. Guacamole (combo of a few items, but I consider it a single food)
  3. Spaghetti squash
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Sounds delicious! I agree. A little garlic and butter and I could survive on this diet. – Marie Sep 18 2011 at 1:44
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I formulated my answer before seeing your full text, so the substantial overlap isn't because I copied you.

If I were limited to just a single food, I'd go with raw, grass-fed milk. If I got to add a second food, pastured eggs would be my choice. But with three foods, I get to branch out a bit more and include a starch and some fruit (to replace the carbs that would otherwise have been supplied by milk). So I'll go with:

  1. Beef liver.
  2. Sweet potatoes.
  3. Goji berries.
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Milk just makes no sense! The single food to eat is meat. Is it optimal? No, but it works and has been proven. After drinking only Milk you'll get into serious problems. Look it up at 180degreehealth.blogspot.com/search/label/… – Paul Sep 17 2011 at 22:36
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Hmmmm.....

  1. Wild Alaskan Salmon

  2. A Whole, Free Range Organic Chicken (the whole thing! Organs and all....)

  3. Broccoli

I wanted to say spinach, but decided to go with a veggie with more carbs....So that is my top 3.....

Steph

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Oh, your second item is smart. Organs and all makes it a definite super food! – vdh1979 Sep 16 2011 at 18:31
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For some of us with food intolerance issues we get stuck with eating only 3 foods for awhile until we can determine what we can tolerate. I think your list is excellent for nutrition, but for food intolerance issues eggs, sweet potatoes and liver can sometimes be hard on the system. My favorite three are beef with broth, potato, (white rice if you can't tolerate potato.) and romaine lettuce.

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I agree! Beef and potatoes for the win! Anyone remembering Danny Roddys Healhty Hair Diet? He pretty much ate just potatoes and beef. – Paul Sep 17 2011 at 23:07
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I thought food reward was learned and therefore stronger for known foods and weaker for new foods that had not built up an existing calorie-flavor association?

I thought that was why Seth Roberts recommended crazy spicing as a way to increase complexity of flavor and decrease the food-flavor reward pathway and that this was one of the reasons that junk food, being identical in flavor was so strongly associated with weight gain...

Do I have it all backwards?

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Have you seen those Heston Blumenthal cooking shows where they did brain scans for him, essentially researching about food reward. Crispiness of food, spiciness, textures etc. – Jan Sep 16 2011 at 19:44
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No! Food and a brain scanner! I am totally there if they are on the internets :) – Vrimj Sep 16 2011 at 19:45
youtube.com/watch?v=41AHxTR1MqQ – Jan Sep 16 2011 at 19:46
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Obviously he is a very good chef and researched how to make his dishes as rewarding as possible. Theres two seasons of those episodes, they are not fully on youtube, but you can find them if you seek hard enough ;) – Jan Sep 16 2011 at 19:48
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I bet he knows alot about this topic, but this series is just mostly entertainment and that research doesnt really make good tv ;) It would be interesting to hear his thoughts about it. – Jan Sep 16 2011 at 19:50
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You guys, this isn't what food reward is about. I could eat just three whole foods and maximize food reward. Food reward has to do with flavorings and certain combinations of flavorings/macronutrients, and IMHO cooking techniques. Plain sweet potatoes or other starchy vegetables steamed or microwaved are absolutely the most unappetizing things I have ever eaten. I was trying to be strict paleo and eating them for lunch and I kept losing weight I didn't need to lose. But slice em up and fry them in butter...and I could eat them all day. You can eat as many different types of food as you like and be low-reward. I would say there are three simple things to do:

  • only non-industrial whole foods and no industrial flavorings like MSG
  • only raw, steamed, microwaved, or boiled foods
  • never combine fat, salt, or carbs. If you eat something sweet, DO NOT add fat/salt for example.
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Is it possible that reward can be subjective? Plain microwaved potatoes and sweet potatoes are both very addictive for me, someone else mentioned plain sweet potatoes taste like cake to them, I definitely agree. Although I have noticed that a few hours in the fridge drastically lowers my enjoyment of them... But they're still good, I love the starchy textures :P Plain protein is pretty much the only thing that kills my appetite in the way low reward sounds like it should. – Katie Sep 16 2011 at 22:02
maybe the sweet potatoes I'm buying are significantly lower in sugar? It's possible. It varies quite a bit by variety. The high-sugar kind could be a high-reward because it's sugar + starch. – Bread-Eating Beelzebub Sep 16 2011 at 22:10
Mel, try Japanese sweet potatoes baked at 350 for two hours. Eat plain, no fat, no salt. Super tasty. It's prolly a higher sugar content, yes. – ben61820 Sep 17 2011 at 1:34
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We do not need yet another lecture on our lack of understanding. – The Loon Sep 18 2011 at 15:01
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I think you have nailed it, Melissa. Why so snarky, Loon? My understanding is that high food reward usually involves fat/starch/salt or fat/sugar combos. cooked plain apple vs. apple pie. Plain potato vs. french fries. I'm not saying the plain potato isn't appetizing, just that most people quit eating them long before they'd quit eating the same potato quantity in french-fry form. – gydle Apr 3 2012 at 12:19
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I can't vouch for grass fed raw milk because I've never had it and its unavailable in my state that I am aware of.

Honestly I would also go with your three choices of pastured eggs, grassfed beef liver, and sweet potatoes. I'm one of those people who can eat the same foods over and over and over. I rarely ever get tired of them. It's easier that way too.

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Actually, after seeing Steph's reply, I think her whole pastured chicken would be a better choice than the grass fed beef liver. You get a combo deal there! – vdh1979 Sep 16 2011 at 18:32
hi vdh, you list 3 superfoods. How often would you eat the liver? It's recommended not to overdue it. 3 times a week is max. Then you're left with sweet potatoes and eggs for the other days. Now try to eat at least 2000 kcals with sweet potatoes and eggs on any given day. It's impossible! Sweet Potatoes are low cals food and craming eggs from a whole chicken house is probably not that heahty either :D it's actually too healthy, too much vitamins your body tries to remove – Paul Sep 17 2011 at 23:13
I didn't know about the liver limitation. Maybe I should trade scallops for liver. – vdh1979 Sep 17 2011 at 23:59
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Eggs, White Potatoes, Brussels Sprouts? Salmon or Scallops? not sure which one would be better, I feel like it would be a good idea to have some veg in there.

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One food is enough : Rimonabant :P

Other then that, you could probably grow GMO marijuana with low THC content but large Cannabidiol content. Sounds natural and easy to make without any negative effects of synthetic stuff [Also, this is nice proof that nature always comes with poison and antidote in the same package]

Yeh, food reward is real, BUT, I find that diets a la Shangri La are idiotic. I don't say theory is idiotic, practice makes it so.

Anyway, I would go for meat, eggs and brocoli.

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beef, eggs, broccoli

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The problem with having someone pick three foods for you is that you might not be able to eat one or more of them. However that being said:

Pastured Lamb (or beef or bison) Pastured Eggs White Potatoes OR Sweet Potatoes

I would also like to eat some wild salmon from time to time for health reasons. In addition some berries, citrus fruit and some green vegetables. The main modification I would make is switch the meat up during the week between wild salmon and pastured lamb or beef or bison. This is how the Perfect Health Diet mentions eating. Also allow yourself berries or citrus as well as green leafy vegetables from time to time.

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-Eggs -Goat Milk -Potatoes

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  • (rare) Beef
  • potatoes
  • salt

This could be a typical day/ week for me in winter! I'd definitely miss some fish, but that's it.

I don't consider this question as a "food reward" post! And in my opinion there is something wrong to include "superfoods" in a 3-times list. It's really about quantities and you don't want to eat 3000 kcals with tons of eggs/ fish (omega 3 overdosis)/ seaweed/ goji berries or liver (vitamin A Toxicity).

but then again, i'm not sure how serious this question is and i miss the whole point!

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Broccolli Eggs Fish

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Eggs, Broccoli, Salmon

Also why food combining isnt good? What does it do actually?

Thanks!!!

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Spinach or Spaghetti Squash, Salmon (every single part from the bones to the skin - ADORE belly, skin, collars, you name it)... And grass-fed beef or bison (or ostrich, elk, venison).

Oh wait, I pretty much live this way already! Ha ha!

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