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What constitutes 20% for "cheats" in a Paleo lifestyle?

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The point is that obsessing with being perfect will (for most people) lead to uber-fails. Sure, we all all want to be 100% paleo compliant AND we all live in the real world of Safeway's and 7-11's. 20% is to allow yourself some slack and not get all up in your own grill when you slip up. It's not an excuse to eat 20% of calories as wheat/soy/fructose/canola oil laden processed crap. It's like when you are good all week and somebody sticks a brownie in your face and you eat it without thinking. Okay, try not to do that next time, but don't stay up all night regretting it. – Dave S. Sep 20 2011 at 14:51
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Why would I want to grill a brownie Dave? Does that make it more paleo? And I'm pretty sure our paleo ancestors would have loved a Coke flavored Slurpee on occasion. Just don't drink them every day. ;) – Cody Sep 20 2011 at 17:19
A grilled brownie sounds delicious! I think cooking it over open flame definitely makes it more paleo ;) – FED at LiveCaveman.com Sep 20 2011 at 19:27

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I think that the goal should be striving for 100%. The 20% is the inevitable "cheat" that occurs when you go out to eat, are invited to a party, etc.

In other words, it's not so much about intentionally eating 20% of your calories in the form of "non-paleo" foods such as bread, beer, sugar, etc.

It's to account for the fact that life will throw you curveballs and cookies and chocolate cake.

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Agreed. Not all of us have the conviction of a Kurt Harris' (re his candy cigarettes). I don't need my cheat to be crappy birthday cake from the grocery store, but I like living with an option for flexibility. – Beth-WeightMaven Sep 20 2011 at 18:13
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Shoot for 100%, hit 80%.. if you shoot for 80%, you'll hit 60%.

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Nicely put ! – sherpamelissa Sep 20 2011 at 13:19
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i eat only meat/chick/seafood, green veg, nuts + eggs for every meal 7 days a week except for one meal - my "cheat meal" which i usually have on a saturday or sunday night and i can eat whatever i want. i try to stay away from gluten and dairy though as being so strict during the week really means i bloat up like nothing else and it actually gives me bad tummy pains!

last weekend for example my cheat meal was pancakes made with 1 cup buckwheat flour, maple syrup, saltanas, icecream, thickened cream + some dark chocolate. it was DELISH.

apparently my cheat meal also helps to reset my metabolism and keep burning fat efficently (fat loss is my ultimate goal)

this really works for me. if during the week i see something i really fancy i just put it on "lay by " until my cheat day!

find what works for you!!!

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Eating a cheat meal doesn't really do much to reset your metabalism unless you are eating a very calorie restrict diet and that "cheat" meal is a calorie excess. Just eating crappy food doesn't make magic happen within your body, someone feel free to correct me if I am wrong. – Ryan H Sep 20 2011 at 5:27
thanks for your feedback Ryan...i am actually really interested to know this so welcome any comments!!! i have heard it affects your leptin levels.. – pink.protein Sep 20 2011 at 5:31
I feel like if you're looking forward to a cheat meal all week then you're doing something wrong. And yeah Ryan, I rationalize any unplanned splurging with the metabolism spike theory even though I realize it's sorta baseless. – Phazo Sep 20 2011 at 5:48
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A 'planned cheat' could increase metabolism if, for example, you were LCing and then intermittently 'cheated' by having a high carb meal, but there'd be no need to cheat in the sense of going off-paleo, you could just have some sweet potato or other paleo carb. – David Moss Sep 20 2011 at 6:01
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am not looking forward to a cheat meal with regards to craving sugar or any carbs...to be honest i rarely have these cravings but i actually think this is partly due to allowing myself a cheat once a week. i think if i didnt do this and tried to be good 100% of the time i would crash and burn because of the whole forbidden fruit mantality....ie wanting what you cant have. i eat paleo as a lifestyle choice and hope to do so for the rest of my life so i really feel the cheat day aids me in being able to look at it from this perspective. thats just me though! – pink.protein Sep 20 2011 at 7:40
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Sourdough bread in the form of a patty melt, with cheese, mayonnaise, nightshade and pickle.

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Are you answering the question or putting in a lunch order? – Dave S. Sep 20 2011 at 16:04
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You forgot ham, bacon, or ground beef. Or better yet, all three! – Cody Sep 20 2011 at 17:20
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My general rule is no non-primal food in the house. Of course, I make exceptions here as well - I will keep beer, wine, mead and spirits around, but I don't drink every day; I keep rapadura (raw cane) sugar around and a couple times a week might put a teaspoon in my coffee or tea; I fairly regularly use raw (unpasteurized, straight from the farm - even thought it's illegal in Canada!) and/or fermented dairy products. If I get invited over to a friend's house or plan to go out for a meal then I might indulge in something off the primal menu if it looks really delicious, like sushi or dim sum or a piece of naan with my curry. I really can't afford the time or money to eat out more than one or two meals a week, so it regulates itself pretty well.

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Like Bex, I don't keep any non-paleo food that I'm interested in around, My kids aren't 100% primal/paleo, so there are things that they'd be interested in... though less and less so. If there's no Pirate Booty in the house, they can't eat it, right? I agree with FED that the 20% is to capture things like eating out.

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I would't keep pirate booty in the house, either. I don't think pirates bathed very often... On a serious note, do your kids eat paleo most of the time? – Cody Sep 20 2011 at 17:22
My kids are about 60/40. The six year old is addicted to "peanut butter and jelly" which is actually almond butter with fruit spread on Ezekiel (sprouted) bread. She seems to be OK on it. Dairy seems to actually be more of a problem for her than the bread. The little one, on the other hand, loves the raw cheddar... One of the biggest problems I have with the older one is her pickiness, which she definitely didn't have 2 years ago. I swear if I told her that she could only eat almond butter sandwiches, strawberries, and bacon from now on, she'd probably be cool with that. – staceychev Sep 21 2011 at 19:27
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For me, it's about not stressing about what's 'paleo' and just trying to eat a nutrient-rich, mostly whole foods diet that makes me feel and look my absolute best. It approximates the diet that my ancestors probably ate before agriculture, which makes intuitive sense to me, but I'm not at all hesitant to eat non-paleo foods in moderation as long as I continue to feel healthy and not see any reoccurance of my many pre-diet-change health issues.

I honestly don't give a shit about being 'compliant' to arbitrary rules about my diet, and I don't feel a second of guilt for eating things that aren't paleo. To me, that's unhealthy thinking - although I suppose it's very different for people who are doing this for weight loss and need to be strict to get results.

I've never had a problem with binging on junk foods, and while I definitely had strong cravings for wheat when first giving it up, I am now not at all tempted to eat foods that make me feel poorly. If I didn't clearly have gluten intolerance I would DEFINITELY make bread part of my '20%'- but as it is, not worth it at all.

I eat starchy tubers which many people don't consider 'paleo' - but I do. I also eat lots of dairy (well, mostly dairy fat, and some cheese) and white rice. With more moderation and more rarely, I drink beer and liquor, and eat corn tortillas, sugar in ice cream and chocolate, hummus, and other beans.

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The easiest way to deal with this is to do the best you can to be 100% and when you can't you can fall into that 20% without guilt.

If you use the 20% every day or each week, you'll likely find yourself non paleo or cheating more than not and that wont be good.

I believe this rule is there so you remove the guilt and rigidness of traditional "diets" that so many of us have fallen victims to. This gives freedoms to accept and just enjoy good foods without aCll the guilt.

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Personally, I don't really have any temptation at all to "cheat". I have been eating nothing but steak and potatoes for months, and I don't see that changing anytime soon. The only problem is that I occasionally "cheat" because my employer requires I take an hour lunch outside the office, and I end up buying some fast food out of boredom once or twice a month while I listen to the radio. Next job I take is going to be one that does not require me to take lunches, since it's pretty much a complete waste of my time and screws up my diet.

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Why are you required to do that? Sounds strange to me. – Phazo Sep 21 2011 at 1:31
Some states have stricter laws than others regarding breaks, overtime pay, etc, so it's just easier for employers to kick you out of the office for an hour than worry about whether they might be accused of breaking any laws. Moving to a different state is something I should add to my list. – Ratiocinative Sep 21 2011 at 13:31

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