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I just came across this article which talks about gelatin as a healthy protein powder:

http://www.foodrenegade.com/gelatin-healthy-protein-powder/

I am very intrigued by it because I would like to supplement my diet with extra protein, but don't because I dislike the ingredients of most traditional protein shakes. My questions are:

Has anyone used gelatin as a "protein powder."
Would you use it the same as you would a protein shake (PWO, etc.)?

Thanks for your help.

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Kamal · Answer 1 · 2011-09-30 01:20:37Z UTC

If you want to use gelatin as a "protein powder", you might want to consider the hydrolyzed form, which dissolves without needing hot liquid.

I use gelatin for weeks at a time. So does Stabby, another paleohacker, and a couple more people if you check other gelatin threads. I personally don't make bone broth anymore because it's so stinky in my little apartment while cooking up!

There are no excitotoxins in pure gelatin products, such as Great Lakes gelatin. There are excitoxins in boxed foods that contain gelatin, such as Jello.

Another option, if you don't like the added ingredients in protein shakes, is to get pure milk protein, pure egg protein, or even a mix of the two. The two most well-known customized protein ordering websites (i.e. no sweetener, thickener, or flavor necessary) are Protein Factory and True Protein. Also, unflavored protein is available on Amazon, but sometimes more expensive and not able to be ordered in small quantities. Also also, organic unflavored protein is amazingly expensive, and a very rare bird as well.

majkinetor · Answer 2 · 2011-09-30 08:23:31Z UTC

Cheese is far easier to make yourself, and if its from goat its absolutely superior. Far greater taste too, especially in high grade olive oil.

Additionally, it comes with K2, Calcium [probably the best form] and other stuff like α-lactalbumin.

Some people will complain now that its not paleo and sh*t like that, but ignore. If you do not have specific problems with cheese and you don not eat wheat, its generally no problem.

If you live in USA, you might want to find some good source or make your own from raw milk. In Europe, GBH is still forbidden which also means less antibiotic usage. But this is really not much different from any other animal.

Check out AA content: http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=100+g+cheese

@Kamal, you like Audrey Tautou movies ? Next step is cheese if you want to be more in the spirit. Cooking bones is not what lady should do :P

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Joshua · Answer 3 · 2011-09-30 01:22:26Z UTC

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No no no 1000 times no.

Back in the 60s people died of malnourishment due to a lack of nutritive value in gelatin protein supplements while following a fad psmf diet. Your body needs more than protein post workout. link text

I don't recommend it. Instead, there are Organic whole egg and raw whey powders available on the market. Whole egg protein is available from true protein.com

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Joshua
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Hey, strongman dude! When's Derek Poundstone gonna win WSM? Anyways, the gelatin thing is a little more complex. Once one has enough protein for body structure, enzymes, etc, gelatin can be a very good thing because of a few reasons (high in lysine and proline and not methionine, which could be good for life extension, good for joints, etc) The deaths in the 60's were because you really shouldn't depend on gelatin as a protein source on a PSMF diet because it's amino acid profile isn't good for a sole protein source. But as an adjunct, I'd totally use it if I was in the strongman biz. – Kamal♦ Sep 30 2011 at 1:29

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That is exactly how I would plan to use it--not as my primary source of protein but as a supplemental source when I simply don't get quite enough for number of reasons. – dubpluris Sep 30 2011 at 1:37

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raw whey also has excitotoxins..... – The Quilt Sep 30 2011 at 1:52

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lysine and proline are also essential for strong collagen and cardiovascular function. This limits cancer's ability to spread around. Pauling therapy is basically Lysin+Prolin+C. – majkinetor Sep 30 2011 at 8:09

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This web page has excitotoxins in it. Look out! – Chickenosaurus Rex Sep 30 2011 at 17:20

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The Quilt · Answer 4 · 2011-09-30 00:29:46Z UTC

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All gelatin that is commercially produced is loaded with excitotoxins. So i would never eat it. If you make your own with bone broth that is awesome.

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The gelatin that seems to be most widely used by paleohackers (including myself) is Great Lakes gelatin, available on Amazon. It contains no excitotoxins, as it is simply powdered collagen (regular or hydrolyzed)... greatlakesgelatin.com/consumer/noMSG.php – Kamal♦ Sep 30 2011 at 1:15

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Please explain how home made bone broth (producing gelatin) is different than gelatin made from pig skin and powdered in amino acid profile. Both have glutamine. Most (paleo) people get the regular, unhydrolyzed gelatin. Is the website "slick" simply because it is a web page from a company? Because everything they say looks true -- there is no added MSG, and this doesn't seem any different than gelatin made at home. – Kamal♦ Sep 30 2011 at 2:09

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@Quilt: Do you have that study you did published anywhere? Even on your hard drive where you can email me a copy? carbsane at gmail dot com. I guess I need to stop throwing my whole chix carcasses and leftover skin (I don't eat chix skin except when crispy fried on wings) in when making my broths. I second Kamal's request for a reference on this. Thanks in advance. – Evelyn aka CarbSane Sep 30 2011 at 14:16

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Interesting fact: A breakfast made up beef containing 50 grams of protein can contain 10 grams of glutamate. In contrast 10 grams of gelatin contains only 0.5 grams of glutamate. – Matt Sep 30 2011 at 15:30

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Man you all got me confused. Sometimes I think Quilt is just making things up and laughing at us behind his desk. – Korion Feb 20 2012 at 10:42

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