Paleo Diet and Paleolithic Diet Questions & Answers

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Just a simple question. If reduced food reward reduces calorie intake, should underweight people follow a high rewarding (but healthy) paleo diet? (Consisting of all those highly delicious baked goods and recipes combining fat and sugar)

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animalcule · Answer 1 · 2011-10-09 06:13:48Z UTC

This is my theory, yes. I've been 10-16 lbs underweight by BMI since my mid-teens, with the help of high-reward paleo I am only about 5 lbs underweight these days. I would say I ate a normal amount of food before I really started trying to overeat, but the plain fact is I need to be eating A LOT more than most people do to maintain my weight, much less gain, and my natural appetite is not all that strong and needs to be prodded along.

I eat hyper-palatable, very flavorful foods, tons of fat (specially dairy fat) and I combine lots of fats with my sugar and starch (fruit and tubers usually). I also find it helps me to eat a lot more if I have many options at the same meal, rather than larger portions of the same old thing.

I've tried pot-induced binging and I did gain, but felt like I was in a total fog mentally. Not worth it just for 'vanity pounds'.

ben61820 · Answer 2 · 2011-10-09 01:07:27Z UTC

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I wouldn't think so. I'd tell the underweight person to simply eat more quantity of plain whole foods with minimal spicing.

In other words, I wouldn't recommend someone to eat highly rewarding (or whatever these foods are called: overly tasty, salty, etc stuff) stuff ever.

If a person needs to eat more food than simply eat more of the same food they're currently eating.

answered Oct 9 2011 at 1:07

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how do you get them to eat more when they are completly full off simple foods? If I did what you suggested I would never be able to eat enough. Even Stephan G said some people need high food reward diets like soldiers in war. – cliff Oct 9 2011 at 2:32

I agree with cliff...there is simply no way I can make myself eat more plain foods – Bread-Eating Beelzebub Oct 9 2011 at 3:26

Melissa, which tasty food do you eat? – Primordial Oct 9 2011 at 6:33

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I suppose if one is not willing to eat more of the same food then yes I'd agree with both of you. I suppose I just wouldn't advocate consuming foods that are what I consider overly tasty and designed to make you eat more ever, to anyone. It doesn't mean that I couldn't cook you some food in a tasty manner that would make you eat a whole lot more of it. This matter is still for me very unclear. I guess I'm thinking of two general differences: foods that are just overly tasty that really make you do things like eat a ton of that will make you feel not so good (candy cig type-of idea perhaps)... – ben61820 Oct 9 2011 at 13:28

...and then just whole basic food that is well-prepared and tasty like all the normal food that I prepare for people and I myself eat. Tasty nutritious stuff, but not stuff that really makes you choose to go back to the cupboard and eat more and more of it. – ben61820 Oct 9 2011 at 13:29

Nemesis · Answer 3 · 2011-10-09 00:39:41Z UTC

I don't know about eating lots of sugar. I'm on a maintenance Primal diet, and I have to eat starchy foods every day, as well as fruits and some dark chocolate in order to stay at my current weight. I do indulge in sugar and fruits more now than when I was strict Paleo and trying to lose weight, but I still try keep my total sugar intake (counting fruits) to less than 50g/day.

Potatoes, yucca & occasional white rice are my Primal starch sources. And I can't seem to be able to make a decent-tasting Paleo pastry, so that option is out the window for me, lol.

majkinetor · Answer 4 · 2011-10-08 20:41:41Z UTC

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Use cannabis. You will eat whatever is there. Period.

answered Oct 8 2011 at 20:41

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Thats why all pot heads are over weight? – peter Oct 8 2011 at 21:44

I don't think ALL pot heads are overweight because there are diminishing returns to cannabis if you use it in chronically, but even then, I think it will promote weight at least a bit. Some of the very well known antiobesity drugs are cannabis receptor blockers. – majkinetor Oct 8 2011 at 22:03

It also depends on your genome. Some pot heads actually have reduced number of CB receptors which leads to state of felling less happy in life. Such people benefit more of cannabis and cannabis can be mildly addictive to them (its not addictive in general) because they are really 'fixing' that part of their brain by using it. – majkinetor Oct 8 2011 at 22:06

Unfortunately, endogenous CB1 ligand, anandamide, promotes both blissful state and eating. – majkinetor Oct 8 2011 at 22:07

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And THC, exogenous CB1 agonist from cannabis is much more potent. – majkinetor Oct 8 2011 at 22:08

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FED at LiveCaveman.com · Answer 5 · 2011-10-08 18:34:01Z UTC

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I would be hesitant to suggest that high sugar ("paleo" or otherwise) is a good idea, even if someone is trying to gain weight.

Otherwise, it would seem reasonable that high-reward foods (thus greater sustained caloric intake) would help an underweight person gain body mass.

answered Oct 8 2011 at 18:34

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high sugar or high carb? – cliff Oct 8 2011 at 18:38

Sorry, I meant carbs when I said "sugar", not refined sugar off course. – Primordial Oct 8 2011 at 18:47

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Trying to gain weight does not necessarily equal needing to gain weight. For that reason, I would not suggest that someone consume a high sugar diet. If weight gain is desired, high reward/high quality/nutritious fats, starches, and proteins would be my recommendation. – FED at LiveCaveman.com Oct 8 2011 at 18:50

cliff · Answer 6 · 2011-10-08 18:28:04Z UTC

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In my experience yes, my brother needs high rewarding food or he waste away.

answered Oct 8 2011 at 18:28

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what high rewarding food does he eat? – Primordial Oct 8 2011 at 18:29

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milk, starch+fat(potatoes+butter/white rice+butter), ice cream(high quality), lots of salt to make stuff taste better...we don't have a good kitchen so he can't make tasty recipes like french fries n stuff and he feels like starch+fat isn't that rewarding because he eats it a lot so he eats 1/2 gallon of HQ ice cream(3800 cals) every other day he does it all in one go so its not cariogenic. – cliff Oct 8 2011 at 18:45

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