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I have found that when I don't worry about what I eat, ratio wise, as long as it is in Paleo guidelines, I feel like I make more progress than when I stress over counting carbs and whatnot. So, which hinders fat burn more? Stressing over what I eat, when I eat, how much I eat, and how much I exercise or eating more carbs (over 50g a day).

As a side note: My ultimate goal is fat loss, but not necessarily weight.

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Why do you presuppose carbs are bad at all when most people here think otherwise? – Jay Oct 24 2011 at 23:32

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I would go with stress. First of all I do not think it is fair to label carbs as bad, just like fat is not bad. One macro-nutrient can not be all bad. There are good and bad carbs, just like fat.

Besides that, if you do not have a handle of your stress, your diet won't even matter. For example, you could be eating a perfectly healthy diet, yet still be putting on weight.

Stress and sleep deserve more attention, as in my opinion they are much harder to control than diet.

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Stress. .

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My n=1 is definitely stress. I remember hearing Kurt Harris say somewhere than when his mind is in the right place he thinks could basically eat anything and not gain weight. I know my health problems didn't really start to flare up until I got hit with a bunch of non-health related stressors at once. There's definitely a balance to reach between eating healthy and not stressing a crap ton about eating healthy.

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If you limit carbs (e.g. < 50g / day) that is a stress on your body. I'm guessing from the question that that is news to a lot of people. Paleo does not mean low-carb. Low carb is great for some people who are very overweight and/or have metabolic problems, and some people like it a lot, but carbs are far from inherently harmful. You should eat carbs unless you have a good reason not to. And, on the other side, you should not be stressed unless you have a good reason to be.

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It's news to me. See paleohacks.com/questions/25449/… – Ambimorph Oct 24 2011 at 22:45
@Ambimorph - Do you ever get the feeling you are having to repeat yourself? :) – Matt Oct 24 2011 at 23:14
Good link but I think the best answers in there explain why it's stressful (even if you can make some counterarguments against certain points). Your body is made to readily use carbohydrates (or should be if you do not have various diseases/metabolic problems). It is the default. Ketosis is basically a survival mechanism. Its a real stretch to imagine that it is an optimal way of running an active body. Maybe if you are super sedentary or very overweight it can improve your health. But to say carbs are bad for that reason?? Silly and completely throwing people off about what paleo is about – citrusfire Oct 25 2011 at 3:37
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Good points citrus. Ketogenic diets may not be inherently stressful but diets that include carbs are anti stress, so in comparison ketogenic diets are stressful for normal people imo – cliff Oct 25 2011 at 12:09
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Depends on how bad the stress and how bad the carbs...

I wouldn't stress on the carbs unless you are sensitive to them - inflammation and/or weight gain. VLC (less than 50 grams carbs a day), and LC (less than 150 grams carbs a day) are for people who have been unable to achieve their optimum health with higher carbs. They are not for everyone.

I won't deny that there are some carb-sensitive people out there and they have to eat that way but first figure out if you are one of them. Not everybody is an Inuit (Eskimo) or has genes like that!

Some people even need some carbs to burn fat. The hubby and I accidentally started to do LC Paleo (got lazy making starches - was in the middle of winter and less produce anyways where I live) and some days of VLC. My hubby's waist didn't budge until we started increasing to some starches (bananas, tubers, and white rice) with every meal - then he dramatically had weight loss! Now keep in mind when we upped the carbs (20-25% calories from carbs) this is still a lower carb then Standard American Diet! We had both had better performance in the gym as well. You have to experiment and see.

Some people feel good in LC/VLC for a month or two and then start to develop new symptoms - dry mucus organs such as the eye, scurvy (wounds not healing properly, etc.). The Jaminets describe this in the Perfect Health Diet book and blog (I like to call Paleo 3.0).

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Don't stress over eating carbs.

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Neither stress nor carbs are inherently problematic. That said, first, I'd tie the number of carbs you eat to your activity (which could vary day to day). And then second, do whatever you will do regularly ... I like Yoni Freedhoff's idea that you need to live the life you'll love, not the one you'll tolerate.

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I think the type of stress she is describing is inherently problematic. – trjones Oct 24 2011 at 20:03
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Carbs curb stress. So carbs are your best ally in optimal body composition for health.

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To be more specific: M&M's and milk shakes are your best friend. – Huey Oct 24 2011 at 20:55
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Or maybe a pile of mashed sweet potato and a ton of delicious butter. – Nemesis Oct 24 2011 at 21:07
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or OJ, whatever clean sugar you want as long as you get enough nutrients – cliff Oct 24 2011 at 21:32
Carbs make me crazy, and stressed out...so, again, nice to not generalize. – Rogue Nutritionist Oct 25 2011 at 0:30
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well animal studies say otherwise – cliff Oct 25 2011 at 0:32
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Dont stress over the small stuff....and its all small stuff.

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The comparison of stress and carbs = categorical error of the apples/oranges type.

Bad stress is to be avoided. As defined by Hans Selye and others. "Good stress" is the stuff that leads people to reach beyond their grasp, and thrive in the process.

Oh, and mediocre stress: "...lives of quiet desperation." Advantage: massive support group, known as Society.

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Excess stress is beyond what we normally call "toxic." It wrecks lives through and through and impacts everyone you come into contact with.

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Stress (financial, emotional, etc, not "acute" stress like almost being run over by a car) is pervasive. You wake up with it, live with it, and go to sleep with it. It affects your sex life, your relationships and your entire environment.

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Some really interesting stuff in terms of "allostatic load" as our set point of chronic daily stress has been researched in terms of neurology and such. – JayJay Oct 24 2011 at 23:34
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I think my body tells me when it wants to eat carbs.. so just listen to yours and don't stress over it too much?

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Chronic stress could be as bad as chronic carbs. Both lead to the same output - elevated cortisol, a stress hormone. Acute stress is beneficial as much as acute carbs.

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I think you should define what you mean by chronic CHO. – Edward J. Edmonds Oct 25 2011 at 9:12
I mean constantly eating them with every meal and snack. – majkinetor Oct 25 2011 at 9:21
And that is typical for many people - fruit as snack, cereals/bread/pasta/potato/rice for each meal. – majkinetor Oct 25 2011 at 9:22
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sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/… "cortisol concentrations were consistently lower during the high carbohydrate diet than during the high protein diet ? – cliff Oct 25 2011 at 12:02
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Eating carbohydrates with every meal lowers cortisol – cliff Oct 25 2011 at 12:06
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