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I used to have oats for breakfast, I'm tempted to get back to them. I used to ear regular oats and be satiated for about 4 hours or so, which in my grain-fest-laden days, was really something.

So what about gluten-free oats? They are gluten free... but they're still a cereal?

Who's eating oats with milk? Or oatmeal (cooked)?

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the gluten-free aspect of the oats you are referring to only refers to their processing facility. Those oats are in a facility where there are absolutely no gluten-containing grains allowed in so the naturally glutenless oat can remain that way. The gluten that may be present in normal store-bought oats is there from cross-contamination in handling and processing. – ben61820 Nov 4 2011 at 13:32

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I'd be cautious about eating oats. This is what you can end up like eating a diet based on oats...

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...you might get the urge to pick up a big sword and go to find some English to fight.

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I'll try to think up a more serious answer later :) – Matt Nov 4 2011 at 13:27
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-1 - thats not funny. – majkinetor Nov 4 2011 at 14:24
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+1 -- Yes it is. – tonysolo Nov 4 2011 at 16:57
Apologies to anyone who does understand the whole English/Scottish history, or know that the Scots highlanders used to live on oats and had a reputation for producing big, strong warriors. – Matt Nov 4 2011 at 19:45
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+1 hilarious. And my family is Scottish :) – McMeghann Nov 4 2011 at 21:29
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Gluten is only one problematic protein in grains. Oats don't have gluten btw, its cross contamination issue and I doubt contaminated "gluten free oats" provide significant source of gluten. It may be valuable for celiacs but for rest of us, its waste of money IMO, if you eat them at all.

I don't eat them. They tend to promote weight gain IMO.

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That's exactly what I need right now, to gain weight. I was just wondering if there are long term problems with it besides being a cereal (even though it's gluten free). I've read it has a substance called avenin or something. – Jonas Nov 4 2011 at 10:49
That was not part of original question. – majkinetor Nov 4 2011 at 11:02
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If you wanna gain weight, eat potatoes. – Korion Nov 4 2011 at 11:03
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I looked at the study you cite, and I don't agree at all with your interpretation of it. I'm not going to argue it here. But it's worth following my number one rule when looking at scientific studies: follow the funding. The first one you cited (and then removed) was done by nestlé, and the second receives funding from an organization called HarvestPlus. That wouldn't be a grain company, would it? – gydle Nov 4 2011 at 12:56
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Lucas Tafur has an interesting post on phytates: lucastafur.com/2011/10/… – Paleo2.0 Nov 4 2011 at 13:06
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I used to have oat bran for breakfast too before paleo, for the reasons you mention. I now have it just once a week, fermented. Soak in whey and water for 48 hours. I'm telling myself that this makes it a bit more acceptable.

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I just bought oat groats and soaked them with my buckwheat groats to so the phytase in the buckwheat will diminish the phytates in the oats. Then I air dry on dehydrator racks, then run them through the Vita-mix dry blender and voila...flour. My goal is to make oatmeal bread for my husband and son who are not Paleo. If it fails to rise, I will next try a 2 wk long fermented sourdough dough starter as 1/3 of the recipe and the rest will be oats/buckwheat.

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+1 for creative experimentation! Let us know how it works out. – Nance Nov 4 2011 at 20:06
Love it! Please keep us posted on how this turns out. – Shari Bambino Nov 5 2011 at 16:12
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The buckwheat/oat bread was supplemented with sourdough starter. It was so dense it could double as a Denver Boot! The taste was good but would only serve as toast, never as sandwhich bread. Alot of work for a mediocre product. No return of neuropathy signs yet... I think I'll just stick to playing around with 2 wk old fermented sourdough bread made from sourdouch starter. – Sandra Brigham Nov 6 2011 at 18:40
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Oats, like all grains, are not generally considered paleo. However, I don't think it is the worst thing you can eat--particularly if you find it satiating (some people do, some don't). That said, if you are going to eat to eat them I would soak/ferment them first as per WAPF directives.

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Oats (including oats grown and processed in such a way that they aren't contaminated with gluten) have a protein similar to gluten called avenin. Some people sensitive to gluten are also sensitive to this protein, while others aren't. They're also very carby, of course.

So, if eating oatmeal is important to you, pay attention to how your body reacts.

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This thread gave me the idea to buy some oats, so I did today and just ate 2 cups (dry) of rolled oats to hit my carb target and that was...unpleasant. Rice is so much more carb-dense and has less water in an edible state. I may do this on occasion, but you have to have a lot of stomach space if you want to eat 100g or so of carbs in one go. I'll report back at some point with how my gut feels after that huge bowl.

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Ew! Unless you eat them with dates (an old family dessert involved mashed dates rolled in oats) that doesn't sound good at all. – Nance Nov 6 2011 at 7:16
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I added some raisins and a little honey, but I'd honestly rather eat steamed basmati rice. – Travis Culp Nov 6 2011 at 16:31
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Hm sounds like a cheating excuseI used to be addicted to oatmeal. It kept me full for a whole 30min! Why not have something with more nutrition? Oatmeal is basically empty calories. And yes, it's grains.

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Oatmeal is basically empty calories This is far from truth. It contains number of bioactive phytonutrients - toxic or not - including substantial amount of soluble fiber. – majkinetor Nov 4 2011 at 9:49
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Fibre smibre.... – Rhubarb Nov 4 2011 at 10:28
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Soluble fiber should not be underestimated. It feeds your beneficial gut flora which in turn feeds your gut cells with butyrate. – Evelyn aka CarbSane Nov 4 2011 at 11:04
Id' say rice is more empty calories. But I agree there is better stuff. In either case, it's no cheat, far from it. I'm not adding honey or anything to it. I either eat oats + milk or I cook it, which is what you native speakers call oatmeal I guess. But usually when I ate it I just ate a 40-50g serving of oats + half a liter or a liter of milk followed with a banana or apple. That was my breakfast. It would last me for 4 hours or so, which at the time of my gluten diet was outstanding. – Jonas Nov 4 2011 at 11:24
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It kept me full for a whole 30min! The same here.... – majkinetor Nov 4 2011 at 12:02
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