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Hello! I may be the most cautious food prep girl in the world, but I am REALLY hoping I havent completely ruined two pounds of grass fed beef (ground). So, I am going to ask this in hopes of somebody making me feel confident that all is well and I dont have to throw it out. I took (2) 1lb. packages of beef straight out of the freezer at 1:30pm and put them into a pan full of cold water. I had to run some errands which took much longer than anticipated. The beef sat in the water until I returned at 5pm. By the time I got to it, it was 5:15 and the beef was cool, not room temperature but certainly not cold. I immediately put it into a skillet and browned it because I am making chili out of it, but as it cooked I kept freaking myself out and am now at a screeching hault with what to do. It smelled fine, if that helps? Thanks for any input.

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It is fine, don't worry about eating it. – Matt Nov 15 2011 at 0:37
I am curious though why you put it in cold water to defrost? – Matt Nov 15 2011 at 0:37
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Cold water is the next best thing to the fridge for defrosting while not promoting bacterial growth, and it takes far less time. – air_hadoken Nov 30 2011 at 6:03

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i let my steaks come to room temp before i grill them rare and i have always done this and i eat a lot of steak and i am 50....nearly.

you are making chili as in long simmer time?

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I already browned the beef to "well done" crumbles and yes, I will be simmering it for a few hours this evening. I am traditionally a better safe than sorry kind of person, but in this case, I would hate to waste such good meat if there really isnt any harm done. I have also read that grass fed beef should theoretically be brought to room temp anyway, like you do. However, I wasnt sure if ground meat was included or just steaks. – Case Nov 14 2011 at 23:12
i don't think letting ground beef come to room temp would be recommended as there is so much surface area; but i doubt you will have a problem from the description above. – sage_ Nov 15 2011 at 4:42
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Noses are amazing. Plus cooking kills bacteria. If you cooked it, no worries, I you didn't, 99.9% most likely no worries

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good point, I gave it a sniff before I started to brown it and it smelled pretty neutral. – Case Nov 14 2011 at 23:14
While you should throw it out if it smells bad, most of the major foodborne illness microbes don't cause foul odors. It's not a perfect system. – air_hadoken Nov 30 2011 at 6:05
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I've gone a LOT longer than that (usually on accident) and have never suffered ill effects.

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The question is not whether food should be brought to room temperature before preparing. That is obvious, if the food is too cold, you will not get the Maillard reaction which gives us that delicious complex flavor on the outside.

People offering anecdotal 'not sick' stories aren't exactly helping. Ground meats are the riskiest and ought to be thawed with some consideration. The still water is the biggest possible issue. You want to leave the water running or at least change it every thirty minutes.

http://nchfp.uga.edu/how/freeze/thawing.html

Also I would say there is as near as no difference between grass fed beef food safety and corn fed, so this is not a paleo issue per se.

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I've read that there is a huge difference food poisening-wise between grass fed and corn fed beef. Corn fed beef can harbor acid resistant ecoli bacteria, whereas the strains of ecoli you find in grass fed (this, of course, is barring outside contamination during grinding) don't survive digestion in the human gut well, and at most you'll get a mild case of diarrhea. – Happy Now Nov 30 2011 at 9:12
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Minimal bacterial growth going on coming out of a freeze. Do though, be cautious. This is ground meat, any surface contamination that was there prior to grinding the meat is homogenized ans spread throughout the ground meat. Of course, you must always question your source as well. I wouldn't touch anything but well done ground meat, unless I did the grinding.

Maybe that's why I eat very little raw food unless I control it it from field/pasture to plate.

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You're fine. I've been told from the place I buy my grass fed that it should be brought to room temperature prior to cooking. It does include the ground beef.

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Send it to me, I'll eat it!

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Food poisoning is overhyped in my opinion.

A healthy immune system will fight off most things; I've eaten week old, open in the fridge, past use by date beef steak... it was fine.

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Not overhyped, just missunderstood. – Matt Nov 15 2011 at 0:59
Sounds like you aged the beef in your fridge, supposedly that makes it much tastier. – Happy Now Nov 30 2011 at 9:08
I guess; didn't look particually good. Amazing how good HCl acid is hm? :-) – JRAC Nov 30 2011 at 10:43
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Update: Chili turned out to be yummy and had no problems at all with the meat. Thanks for all of your input!

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I agree with the noses comment - give it a smell, but I am sure it is fine... it's not like you left it out for a day or something!

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Youre right! haha, I am so paranoid after only three hours in water. The reassurance does help though, thank you. :) – Case Nov 14 2011 at 23:15
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I also set my burgers, steaks, and roasts out for a while before cooking to let them come to room temperature--up to an hour if I'm using a dry rub on a roast.

I'm usually more of a better-safe-than-sorry kind of person, but if it was frozen when you left it couldn't have been sitting there defrosted for more than 1-2 hours, so I'm sure it's fine.

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True! It probably took an hour to defrost and then another hour to slowly warm up.. it was probably 50 degrees or so when I got to it. – Case Nov 14 2011 at 23:16
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"Grass fed beef thawing"

Put frozen GFB in your microwave at the lowest level ("1" on mine) and go for 2 minutes. Check meat at that point, as it will continue to cook even with heat off. Perhaps go another 30-40 seconds, at same level.

BTW: I understand health concerns vis-a-vis microwaves. Thus I didn't say: stand near microwave during this process.

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Question was not what your opinion is on thawing ground beef. – Practicing Paleo Nov 15 2011 at 17:41

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