Paleo Diet and Paleolithic Diet Questions & Answers

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So Paul Jaminet makes the claim in PHD that Candida Albicans, among other fungal infections, can actually feed on ketones as they are water soluble. This pretty much goes against the mainstream school of thought that blood glucose levels should be as low/stable as healthily possible and ketosis is certainly a rather efficient mechanism to stabilize and lower one's blood glucose. I personally find it hard to believe this given that people with diagnosed cases of Candida Albicans do so much better on diets that eliminate "safe starches", sugar, grains, etc.

Does anyone have any thoughts on this claim or could someone quote some research that either reinforces or contradicts PJ's assertion?

flag	asked Dec 6 2011 at 3:53 PatternMatching 1,035●2●9

	I'd like to hear more about this too as I've always believed that candida feeds on sugars and yeasts. How could ketosis from low carb exacorbate this? – Alexandra Dec 8 2011 at 21:22
	Alexandra: after doing some digging myself, I've discovered that Paul makes the assertion that immunity to fungal infections is highly dependent on the ability to produce reactive oxygen species (ROS) and that this ability is a function of glucose availability. You can read what he has to say here (perfecthealthdiet.com/?p=4878) but he doesn't provide any specific references to material that backs up this assertion. – PatternMatching Dec 12 2011 at 17:22

Bill · Answer 1 · 2011-12-06 04:36:59Z UTC

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All I can say is thanks to Paul Jaminet, my fungal infection is gone or dormant. The addition of starch/glucose was such a huge health turnaround for me. Dandruff gone, dermatitis gone, IBS gone.

I only got dandruff when going VLC.

answered Dec 6 2011 at 4:36

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	Where did you find his protocol for eating if you have a fungal infection? – cmstringfellow May 26 2012 at 8:29
	I'm obviously a little late to this game, but I'm with Bill on this one - and my list of improved issues is even longer! – happycamper Aug 6 at 20:39

Ehmackin · Answer 2 · 2011-12-07 04:00:15Z UTC

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I concur with Bill. Doctors were no help. My problems were worsening on a zero carb diet. As I added in some carbs, along with some natural remedies, I got rid of it.

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Ehmackin
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Which natural remedies? – Ashley May 18 2012 at 18:12

Bill1102inf · Answer 3 · 2011-12-06 04:38:27Z UTC

Candida Albicans relationship to humans is neutral and is present in aprox 80% of human GI tracts. It does not pose a problem unless your immune system is compromised. Its also possible for it to grow in your mouth or groin area but unlikely unless your immune system is compromised.

The problem is that a human should not be consuming large amounts of sugar. Large amounts of sugar can cause a fungal bloom and problems, as well as a whole host of other problems which we are quite familiar with.

Therefore, eat meat and veggies and you should be fine. Im sure its quite rare that a non immune compromised person on a proper diet (paleo) has a problem with Candida and if they do, its most likely not caused by their diet but some sort of problem.

Andrea · Answer 4 · 2012-10-08 21:33:04Z UTC

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Here's a reponse from Paul I found on this subject: http://onibasu.com/archives/cl/45375.html. He lists several studies to support his viewpoint.

answered Oct 8 at 21:33

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BigRob · Answer 5 · 2011-12-28 18:36:33Z UTC

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Ingest Food Grade Essential Clove Oil. The stuff works wonders with fungus and has been proven to kill Candida.

answered Dec 28 2011 at 18:36

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borofergie · Answer 6 · 2012-10-08 22:49:12Z UTC

Before I was diagnosed with T2 diabetes, I suffered from recurring balanitis thrush. Being a dumb man, and not wanting to drop my underpants infront of my GP, I rotated pharmacists to make sure that I could get my hands on enough canestan to make my life tolerable.

Within days of hitting a ketogenic diet, my BG levels normalized, and the the thrush disappeared over night. The one time in the last 18 months that I fell off the wagon, I could feel it coming back.

So (in my case at least), thrush prefers glucose to ketones.

Uncontollable thrush is, in my opinion, is one of the tell tale signs of chronic hyperglycemia.

iñaki · Answer 7 · 2013-03-02 22:36:50Z UTC

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Craig · Answer 8 · 2013-04-17 05:42:34Z UTC

I started feeling much better after I added carbs/simple sugars to my diet. I did the 0 carb and sugar for two months and lost 40 pounds. At least I know for sure now what foods I'm allergic to. I feel so much better after adding reasonable amounts of carb and fruit that even my thrush is dissapearing. I do know for a fact that the high protein diet makes your bowel overacidic. I also read scientific proven research that says that if you dont feed candida it worsens, as well as you will ALWAYS have glucose in your blood,(dont have the time to explain, just read) either through glycogen convertion or other wise the low glucose levels causes more cortisol to be produced which in turn can produce hyperglycemia. In other words unless you are diabetic your blood glucose level might go up some but is not the cause for candida to overgrow and it shouldnt be higher than 200. Small hint that might help...at least it did in my case...candida symptoms are confused with a hypothyroid condition that when is not corrected slowly diminishes the immune system and many times allow candida to overgrow....just saying..Boost your immune system with a healthy Balanced diet and you will beat candida..

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