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Body temps are dropping, seems to be a correlation between this and metabolic syndrome/hypothyroidism

Two questions:

What's YOUR Temp?

What's your opinion on Body Temperature Correlations/Causes?

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How do you know body temperatures are dropping? – Matt Aug 12 2010 at 20:08
Measure it. Cold upon waking, cold when sitting, cold hands or feet? – Stephen-Aegis Aug 15 2010 at 0:43
I have constant cold hands and feet no matter how much i eat. Still trying to figure out if i have thyroid issues or bad digestion. – Flavio M. Apr 6 2011 at 18:34
I wish! I'm perimenopausal; it's hot flash city around here. – JansSushiBar Apr 6 2011 at 18:38
Always have been a degree or two colder than 98.6. Diet hasn't changed it. I figure it's a thyroid issue I haven't gotten to the bottom of. – valkyrie Apr 6 2011 at 19:39
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I experienced coldness as a vegan. Cold hands and feet, but especially cold hands. They would never warm up after being wet. This is actually a symptom of long-time smokers, but I never smoked. It's amazing that simply by being vegan I could have that kind of symptom too.

All I had to do was add animal products and BAM! I was warm. SO warm. The first thing I had was a cheese pizza (no meat) and I was already feeling a bit warmer. But then I added lots of eggs and really started to notice. then later meat. Haven't been cold since!

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Yes, I had soooooo much trouble with coldness as a vegan. sometimes my fingers would turn blue...but these days I seem to be much better at regulating temp in general, both in hot and cold weather. – Bread-Eating Beelzebub Aug 11 2010 at 20:20
Where you guys tracking your RDAs on nutrients? I am wondering if there was some specific lack, like maybe B-12, or if it was some other as yet unknown issue with lack of meat. – Eva Aug 12 2010 at 3:00
Might be partly due to the thermogenic effect of protein. – Dave S. Aug 12 2010 at 16:32
The thing is, I don't think many people get cold if they skip protein for one day. That means to me that the protein currently in your stomach and intestines is not the main issue. There would be something in the protein that is digested and retained that is helping with heat regulation. What specifically might that be? – Eva Aug 12 2010 at 22:45
Tyrosine is in meat. Your thyroid needs tyrosine to function properly – Becky Apr 10 2012 at 13:44
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My body temperature drops when I don't eat enough. It goes back up when I eat more. I often wonder how many people with "low body temperatures" are just not eating enough.

Also, keep in mind that the "normal" body temperature range is larger than most realize: see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Normal_human_body_temperature. I can't really tell you "my temp" because it varies during the day like everyone else's. So the fact that body temperature correlates with anything doesn't strike me as particularly significant; it's at best a very coarse measure of health and worrying about it overly much strikes me as a waste of time.

My two cents anyway.

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Those large bases of normal vary just like the normal cholesterol levels of SAD...so not as easy to dismiss? – Stephen-Aegis Aug 11 2010 at 19:51
Not sure what you're getting at. The "normal" body temperature for humans is hard to pin down because it varies in a range. If you measure yourself and get an average of 97F for the day, what does that tell you exactly? It could be your "normal" or it could be a result of a disease state or maybe you just skipped breakfast. It doesn't really give you any useful information. – pfw Aug 12 2010 at 11:59
The accepted range of normal is larger now than it used to be for "healthy" that tells me "healthy" might not be anymore... – Stephen-Aegis Aug 12 2010 at 19:23
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That tells you that no one has any clue what a healthy body temperature is, except that it's probably in the range of body temperatures observed. Not worth worrying about or tracking. – pfw Aug 12 2010 at 21:32
Also, the 98.6F average and wide range around that was established in 1861. When was the range for normal ever smaller than that and who established it? – pfw Aug 12 2010 at 21:33
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I've been charting my temps for some time (first thing in the morning, oral). My average is 98.3, and the range is 97.7 - 99.1

I notice that a starchier, low-fat meal (yams or the occasional GF starch in an open meal) raises my temperature quite a bit. If I eat high fat and very low carb, I get cold after I eat.

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I think low body temperature is a big indicator of low thyroid, at least from my personal experience. My temp for the past 4 or 5 years has been pretty consistently in the 96's, sometimes low 97's.

For the past week I've been following Danny Roddy's advice (pretty in line with Ray Peat) and I've seen a pretty big improvement considering it's only been a week. My body temp was at 98.2 today and I haven't seen that in a long time. Within the first few days I experienced a warm feeling in my hands and feet which I haven't felt in a couple years. I've been feeling pretty good.

It's too early to tell if it's the right way to go, but it sure does seem like it so far.

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My basel body temperature averages about 97 'F. Evidently, this is normal:

For most women, 96 to 98 'F is considered normal prior to ovulation and 97 to 99 'F after ovulation.

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Good to know I'm not a weirdo. – Oranges13 Apr 6 2011 at 19:03
Normal is not ideal. – No more. Jun 2 2011 at 21:02
What average would you consider ideal? – gilliebean Jun 3 2011 at 0:13
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Mine's really strange - it's always registered a low temp when measured by the doctor or at home, but I've never had cold hands or feet, and don't feel the cold in the winter half as bad as most people. My wife thinks I'm a reptile. Given that it causes me no problems that I'm aware of, I've always ignored it.

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Have you tried measuring it after a particularly satisfying meal? – Stephen-Aegis Aug 11 2010 at 22:05
No - but all my meals are satisfying....I'll have a blowout and measure it – CT Aug 12 2010 at 6:38
Had a big plate of ribs, some potatoes, and a little salad. Stuffed. Waited 20 mins then took temp, which was 95.1 – CT Aug 13 2010 at 20:24
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I've taken mine at diff times through my life and it always ran a bit low, like about 96F, especially during sleep. I do not have any problems actually getting cold though. In fact, I tolerate cold better than most.

Interesting thing is though, that I have never taken my temp since on paleo, so I just now got off my duff and dug out the thermometer and inbetween bites of steak, took my temp and was surprised to see it rachet all the way up to 99.6! I don't know if the steak is making me hot (I admit it, I have a love affair with steak!), but I think that is the highest temp I have ever measured when not sick. I will have to try it again later and see if it is still high. Very interesting! Good question, thank you. -Eva

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I think you are supposed to wait at least 15 minutes after eating or drinking before you take your temperature, because the temperature of the food, and the action of the jaw muscles will alter the results. – Ambimorph Aug 12 2010 at 3:13
OK, tried it later and it was 97.3. So probably the food was part of the temp rise. This is perhaps a bit higher than in the past now, but still on the low side. I am right inbetween ovulations so not sure how to interpret Jillibeans post of what is the normal range right now. – Eva Aug 12 2010 at 5:27
I go by the old standards rather than SAD induced changes, 97.6 armpit, 98.6 oral. – Stephen-Aegis Aug 12 2010 at 11:23
I don't think mine has ever made it up to 98.6 unless I had a fever. Still in the normal range though and it has been stable my whole life. No symptoms of thyroid prob so far so hopefully I am in the clear. – Eva Aug 12 2010 at 16:34
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My armpits are warm and my toes are cold.

Cause: T2 diabetes

I am reminded of an old joke: "I don't know what apathy is and I don't care."

Personally, I think the body temperature/metabolism stuff is about as valid as Homeopathy (placebos can be very effective). I haven't seen any science that jives with the theory. I am prepared to eat crow if someone can show me some evidence.

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Well I think if the average temps of the entire population are dropping significantly, it probaby is indicative of something specific going on. And that is interesting. Just like the kids are coming into puberty earlier and earlier now, which is probably not good. They are saying obesity may be the driver, but then are getting off track as to what drives obesity in the first place, so research continues to founder on the rocks in that department. – Eva Aug 12 2010 at 16:38
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i'm at around 95.5 every day -- super-low. i'm hypothyroid, on medication, yet my temperature hasn't increased. when i was off medication i tended to get cold very easily. on medication i don't.

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Always had low body temperature, tend to be reasonably slim, but not skinny, and always cold.

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My body temp is always around 98.0 upon waking and hovers there for most of the day.. some days after a meal high in carbs it will shoot up to 98.7-9.

I do think there is a correlation between overall metabolic health and body temp, but I'm not really sure how exactly it all works. When I eat low carb I tend to get cold even though the meal is higher in fat. Its all so confusing.. sigh.

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