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i'm switching to PHD from a lower-carb paleo/primal eating plan and am now finding myself adding fat to pretty much everything i'm eating. this, combined with higher carbs, is making me a little paranoid that i'll gain weight (when in reality i'd like to lose). i know people will tell me that i should go low-carb to lose, but i have and it simply doesn't work for me. i don't feel well, and i still wasn't losing. i'm ready to try something new and see how it goes!

anyways, anybody following PHD, please let me know what your typical day might look like. for me, it's something like (based on yesterday, which is fairly typical): - breakfast: coffee with cream,3 brazil nuts and a few leaves of seasoned seaweed (both as supplemental foods) - lunch: stewed rice and veggies with salmon and coconut oil, 2 squares 90% dark chocolate - dinner: wine-braised beef shank with olives, sundried tomato and butternut squash

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I was strictly PHD and took all the supplements for awhile and it really helped me get out of a scary place health-wise. Now I'm more lenient. Slowly I added peanut butter, hummus and properly treated masa made into fresh tortillas and I do all the honey sweetened almond/coconut flour baking I want (I eat maybe 2 such muffins a week) and eat fruit and even dried fruit whenever I want and I've had no problems. And I only take Selenium, Magnesium, and Fish Oil now.

This is what I ate yesterday:

Breakfast:

2 eggs scrambled up in a bit of coconut oil with about 2 oz. ham and some salsa verde 2 fish oil pills, 1 selenium and 1 magnesium. I don't know the milligrams off the top of my head, but it is what PHD recommends

Cup of hojicha (roasted green tea) - nothing added

Lunch:

All beef chilli (with onions and tomatoes in the recipe) cooked with bacon grease - I'd guess about 4 oz. worth of meat, but I don't really know, white rice - measured 1/4 cup in its uncooked state, 1/2 medium avocado on top,
2 clementines

Cup of blueberry white tea - nothing added

Dinner:

while I'm waiting for potatoes to cook!: a few pistachios and dried apple rings

spicy chicken and lime soup - maybe 5 oz. worth of meat - not sure, poured on top of around 230 grams of boiled potatoes, small banana stuffed with about 2 T peanut butter

What helped me lose weight was eating less fat. Eating potatoes boiled in salted water topped with stewed meat and salsa as opposed to a pile of mashed potatoes full of butter alongside a steak fried in coconut oil, etc.

If you have extra fat on your body, use that for your saturated fat needs before adding a bunch to your food.

I don't do any formal exercise, but I end up walking for about 3 hours total every day and I dance around the house quite a bit and my job requires occasional heavy lifting. And a few nights a month I go out dancing for like 5 hours and I end up eating a lot more those days!

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"If you have extra fat on your body, use that for your saturated fat" hahaha amazing. thanks so much for the input! would you mind elaborating on the health issues you overcame with PHD? – meret Jan 4 2012 at 20:03
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1 1/2 years of amenorrhea and low T3 along with all the symptoms of those conditions: palpitations, dry skin and hair, aching joints, anxiety attacks, depression, constipation, headaches, nausea, etc. After 3 months of PHD, no exercise (except walking) and eating all I wanted, I got my period again. I've had it 8 straight months now. What surprised me most was that I didn't gain weight like I had mentally prepared myself to do (that was the scariest thing for me, I'm sad to admit). The experience has really changed my view of the value of hard exercise for weight loss. – heather Jan 5 2012 at 17:00
thanks for sharing...i'm always amazed how diet can affect all these things so profoundly. – meret Jan 6 2012 at 19:21
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awesome, bodyfat is equivalent to dietary fat, how the wheel does turn – AndyM Jan 9 2012 at 11:13
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Breakfast: Lamb steak with leg bone marrow or bacon/sausage and eggs. A spoonful of coconut oil if I remember. Occasionally liver and onions. A handful of parsley from the garden. Coffee with a little heavy cream.

Lunch: If I eat lunch, homemade chili or stew, or cold meat bits from the fridge with a little cheese and sauerkraut or kim chi on the side. Sometimes I roll up the meat and cheese in nori sheets and dip it in mustard.

Dinner: Totally random depending on what we have in the fridge, sometimes omelets, hamburger patties, fish, chicken, chicken livers, or another steak, and some sort of cooked veggie plus a little kim chi on the side most days.

In the evening: Dark chocolate or part of a grapefruit or a mandarin orange and a hot drink made with Vitamineral Earth or just a glass of wine (I know, not ideal close to bedtime, but a very enjoyable end to the day nonetheless).

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i don't see a lot of starch...where do you get it from, usually? – meret Jan 3 2012 at 23:42
I throw potato and carrot chunks in the stew, or we'll have sweet potato, parsnips or squash on the side at dinner sometimes. I make a rice flour and coconut milk oven pancake once in a blue moon. I have been known to indulge in real sour dough bread. I don't seem to tolerate a whole lot of starch so I try to consume it in limited quantities and try to use starches that do double duty as medicinals like the astragalus, nettle, and dandelion roots or chia seeds in the Vitamineral Earth I drink every night. – Happy Now Jan 4 2012 at 0:54
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Ha ha! D'oh, just realized that I totally misinterpreted PHD. I obviously am not grasping the obvious today, for some reason I thought it meant Paleo Hack Diet or Paleo Hack Day. Perfect Health Diet, got it. Why yes, that would include a bit more starch than usually eat. I should probably delete my answer. – Happy Now Jan 4 2012 at 1:02
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Here's a typical PHD day for me;

Breakfast: sliced turkey.

Lunch: salad made of collard greens or kale, sweet potatoes, grilled onions and peppers, a 3.5oz can of either salmon or tuna (I buy bulk from Vital Choice), and an apple cider vinegar/macadamia nut oil vinaigrette.

Dinner: US Wellness braunschweiger wrapped in roast beef slices, white rice with mushrooms, peas and butter, some Bubbies pickles or sauerkraut.

Depending on hunger, I may add a little coconut butter (Artisana FTW!) or dark chocolate to the end of a meal.

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so do you usually eat starch with every meal? how much of it, about? – meret Jan 3 2012 at 23:38
I don't eat starch with breakfast. I have about 50g or so with both lunch and dinner. Paul has blogged that he thinks it's better to divvy carbs up more equally, but I find splitting them at lunch and dinner works for me. – Beth-WeightMaven Jan 3 2012 at 23:47
it's all about figuring out what works! i tend to get caught up in the 'rules' and then don't really figure out what actually WORKS for me. changing to PHD is my of starting to really experiment. thanks for the comment! – meret Jan 3 2012 at 23:50
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I'm doing an elimination diet for autoimmune condition, plus leptin reset.

Breakfast: half pound of ground beef sauteed with a cup or two of kale or collard greens, plus half a cup or so of either sweet potato or winter squash. I'll usually eat that with some homemade sauerkraut and either water kefir or bone broth. Lately I've been drinking the bone broth with the addition of a teaspoon or so of turmeric or dulse.

Lunch: either I'll have a salad topped with half a can of salmon and coconut oil and apple cider vinegar for dressing, or I'll just have an orange and some bone broth, maybe a banana. Lately I've also added brazil nuts (one or two) into the mix for the selenium. But I soaked the raw brazil nuts overnight and then dehydrated them to make them easier to digest.

Dinner: same as breakfast, usually around 4pm

Variations: lately I've been playing around with adding white potatoes, with good results. So for example, dinner tonight was beef heart that had been slowly cooking in beef stock for hours, with onion, white potato, garlic, and turmeric. A couple nights ago I had tilapia pan fried with potato and onion.

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agreed. i'm loving the addition of potato / sweet potato. i'm also starting to play around more with rice and just got some yuca! – meret Jan 4 2012 at 1:54
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Most days look somewhat like this:

Brekky:

  • 4-5oz of fatty red meat, preferably with lots of connective tissue (ribs, bone-in cuts)
  • 1-2 egg yolks
  • White rice or a banana
  • Tea or coffee

Lunch:

  • Raw veggie salad with a bit of olive oil (lettuce, cucumber, celery, carrots, tomatoes, etc.)
  • Fruit (oranges, kiwis, papaya, etc.)
  • Full-fat yogurt or cheese

Snack:

  • Dark chocolate, coconut butter or flakes, macadamias

Dindin:

  • A bibimbap type thing, with a protein (usually shellfish), starch (rice, potatoes, or sweet potatoes), cooked veggies (kale, spinach, onions, mushrooms, etc.), egg yolks, seaweed, and a fat+acid sauce
  • Liver and bone broth a few days a week
  • Dessert: ice cream, berries and cream, coconut water

I get anywhere from 100-200g of carbs, about 80g of protein, and the rest of my calories come from fat. My ratio of sugar:starch is probably a bit higher than the average PHD'er, but I find it gives me better digestion.

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i'm getting the same feeling about higher carb...i think i do better with them. it's strange though, 'cause i feel like i'm resisting it, since it goes again what most paleos / primals say. – meret Jan 4 2012 at 1:55
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Embrace it :). If it works for you and you feel good doing it, then it doesn't matter what others are saying. – Phoenix Jan 4 2012 at 3:32
Yup, I really enjoy toast in the morning, a good sandwich at lunch and a big pile of pasta for dinner. – AndyM Jan 9 2012 at 11:16
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Midday meal:

Rice, 100g

Eggs, 3-4

Knob of butter (15g or so)

Sunset meal:

White potatoes, 400g

Meat or fish, ~300g

Tomato sauce

Knob of butter (15g or so)

Randomly added food: Bone broth, spinach, liver, tripe, mushrooms, broccoli, heavy cream, bananas.

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Morning Meal: -Pomegranate Juice mixed with Chia Seeds. -Organic Turkey Breast (No Nitrites nor Preservatives)

Following Morning Meal: -Baby Carrots and Hummus -Again Organic Turkey Breast

Larger Breakfast: -2 Large Eggs -Top Round Steak/Turkey Bacon -Chopped Onions and Tomatoes

Lunch: -Salad w/cucumber, tomatoes, onions -Insert lean meat here

Snack: -Carrots and Hummus as side snack -Added Turkey breast if I need more protein/if I plan on lifting

Postworkout: -Pomegranate Juice -Usually Organic Turkey breast again

Dinner: -Large Salad w/cucumber, tomatoes, bell peppers, broccoli, avocado -Lean meat dish -If I need more carbs I opt for Sweet Potatoes/White Potatoes/White Rice

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My first nutrients of the day actually come from Spirulina and that is usually my first protein of the day if I don't feel like mouthing down pieces of meat right when I get up. – paleo12 Jan 3 2012 at 23:25
thank you! i'm curious why you decided to include hummus in your diet? – meret Jan 3 2012 at 23:25
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I dont know if you have at all looked into Blood Type Diets but I am type O- and I respond extremely well to the Paleo diet (Mainly high protein and that protein has to come from meat, it cannot be wheat protein/dairy protein). – paleo12 Jan 3 2012 at 23:31
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I am extremely gluten intolerant and if I ingest any flour my skin gets extremely dry and begins cracking and itching. It took me about 17 years to figure this out but now at an age of almost 20 I have little to no issues with my skin and my muscles have taken on a very different look. (I assume this is because of the elimination of all protein sources other than lean meat. As for the hummus I don't have much trouble with it, I enjoy it as a snack and when you're dipping raw broccoli and carrots in it, the good definitely begins to out-weigh the bad. Just some food for thought. – paleo12 Jan 3 2012 at 23:31
thanks for the clarification -- just struck me as odd since it 'goes against' paleo. i'm totally in support of the n = 1 experiments -- if it doesn't give you trouble, more power to you! – meret Jan 3 2012 at 23:40

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