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So, I'm noticing there are a lot of pro-potato folks up here... Who is pro-white potato or not, and why or why not?

My take on white potatoes is that they are toxic. They contain enzyme blockers, lectins, and a family of toxins call glycoalkaloids that are not destroyed by cooking. Plus, they are just a puff of very nutrient-low carbohydrates. The baked potato boasts a GI higher than table sugar. Gross!

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Ahhhhh... i remember those days when i felt the same way... – luckybastard Jan 12 2012 at 14:29
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I tried eating potatoes. Didn't work. Maybe it's just because I fear them so much... I might tolerate them OK if I add a lot of fat to them. – Korion Jan 12 2012 at 14:32
@PP - Have we changed your mind yet? – Dave S. Jan 12 2012 at 15:33
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"Very nutrient-low" is way off. Try again. – Travis Culp Jan 12 2012 at 18:18
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GI is meaningless – Domer88 Jan 13 2012 at 0:05
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Lots of vitamin C, folate, niacin, B6, magnesium, potassium, phosphorus, maganese, reasonable supply of vitamin K - why do you think they are just nutrient low carbs?

http://nutritiondata.self.com/facts/vegetables-and-vegetable-products/2551/2

I avoided them for 18 months believing they were just as you described them - then re-introduced them six to eight months ago and ongoing digestive problems eased quite a lot. Also, my energy levels freely improved. I eat potatoes several times a week now, and white rice other days.

I find I do better on a not VLC diet - and I do enjoy my roast potatoes as much as anything I eat!

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And the Irish practically subsisted on them without ill effects. They tended to peel them... – Dave S. Jan 12 2012 at 14:15
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Some might say the relied on them too much... – AndyM Jan 12 2012 at 14:35
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Yeah, it's probably not a good idea to be so limited in your food options. – Dave S. Jan 12 2012 at 15:24
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Look out for the Great Coconut and Bacon Famine. – Paul Jan 12 2012 at 17:59
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I agree. They have more nutrition then what most paleo folks give them credit for. If you look passed the Vitamin A, then one can argue that white potatoes are more nutrient dense compared to sweet potatoes. Ditch the skin and bake or boil them. This will destroy most of the problems. All plant foods have lectins and such. White potatoes are low on the list compared to the grains and legumes that we eat. If you avoid them sweet. If you eat them sweet! – Primal Toad Feb 1 2012 at 2:36
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I eat them. I don't die, I feel and perform to my expectations and beyond. They're not a staple, but hardly un-paleo. Enzyme inhibitors, lectins, toxins, etc are common to most all plants, so not really a strike against white potatoes. Yes, they're starchy, but they do have more nutrition that you're seemingly willing to give them credit for. Yes, they're not powerhouses of nutrition, but does every bite really need to be as nutrient dense as possible?

If you don't want to eat them, fine with me. More potatoes for me then!

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"does every bite really need to be as nutrient dense as possible?" THIS!! – Shari Bambino Jan 12 2012 at 14:19
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Well that depends how much you're eating. – AndyM Jan 12 2012 at 14:35
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My favorite nutrient in potatoes: glucose. – Paul Jan 12 2012 at 17:58
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But sugar is the devil! INSULIN! ACK! – Matt Jan 12 2012 at 18:43
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To be honest, so far at least, pretty much everything I've eaten I've not died from. In fact I'm going to stick my neck out and so absolutely everything I've ever eaten hasn't killed me. Yet. – AndyM Jan 13 2012 at 16:18
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I eat both sweet potatoes and regular tubers on a daily basis. Sweets in the morning and the regular at night - sometimes I'll combine them. Well, not regular potatoes as I only purchase heirloom coloured flesh varieties, tuber snob!, but evening is when they go in. They are a good source of vitamin B6, vitamin c, copper, potassium, manganese, antioxidants, fiber. And more!

IMO the whole issue always seems to flutter about solanine, which also exists in eggplant, tomatoes, peppers. Just peel if you're worried.

With much tinkering I have found that at my activity level tubers and sweet potatoes work best for me. Combined with protein and loads of leafy greens, as well as some fruit, my body is working at an optimum level. VLC and LC do not work for me, and the starchy buddies have provided a most excellent platform for muscle growth, being fast on my feet, yet still allowing me to stay lean.

Every body is different. Do what works for you. And like @Matt, I'm happy to enjoy your share.

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+1! My diet in a nutshell – DeanS Jan 12 2012 at 23:50
What are your favorite varieties? I've started to grow my own, to make sure they are organic and pesticide-free, so I'm not limited by what is available in the supermarket (except for the initial planting). So far, the tastiest ones have been the red potatoes. – TruthCkr Aug 14 at 20:51
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Lectins are in meat too. Specific lectins are a problem (such as peanut agglutinin in peanuts) not lectins as a whole. Also, most of the glycoalkaloids are avoided if you peel them. As other people have pointed out, potatoes are rather nutrient dense, not nutrient poor. Healthy cultures have relied on potatoes for many years.

I am pro potatoes/sweet potatoes because I don't do well with a small amount of carbs. They have lots of nutrients (unlike white rice) and have sustained many healthy cultures throughout the world. If you eat carbs, they're pretty innocuous and don't require much preparation unlike grains and legumes.

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There are hundreds of different lectins. Most of them are not problematic. Wheat germ agglutinin seems particularly nasty. – Dave S. Jan 12 2012 at 15:29
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"There are hundreds of different lectins. Most of them are not problematic" <---- This, plus the fact that heat (i.e. cooking) deactivates many lectins and there is some evidence suggesting that lectins can actually be beneficial at low levels...jbiomedsci.com/content/16/1/10 – FED at LiveCaveman.com May 13 2012 at 18:37
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What are they very low nutrient compared to? My guess is the people who always claim this have obviously never looked at nutritiondata.com.

+1 on using a bunch of random words you hardly understand to fear monger us to not eat potatoes :)

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white potatoes and i have been dating for awhile. i tried to break up but i can't get em out of my head. i'm thinking about popping the question...

another question is, does anyone else get gut irritation from yams and sweet potatoes? i do.

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Chris Masterjohn posted that he has trouble with sweet potatoes. He blamed it on excessive oxaloacetate IIRC. – Dave S. Jan 12 2012 at 15:26
no problem here – The Loon Jan 12 2012 at 16:04
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Sweet potatoes make my tongue itch. – Paul Jan 12 2012 at 18:00
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Sweet potatoes gas me up. Raffinose? – Phoenix Jan 12 2012 at 18:55
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Nance, glad that your hut is now healed and you no longer have issues with the whites :) – FED at LiveCaveman.com May 13 2012 at 18:38
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The bad crap is in the skin. Skin your potatoes before you eat them. I love potatoes of all races. I mean colors.

If you're that worried about them, slow cook them with meat, bones, veggies and apple cider vinegar as stew.

They're pretty great for workout recovery too, those glycogen stores will fill up fast with white taters.

I can see them as problematic for diabetics and the insulin resistant but I can't see why they'd be bad for a semi-active person.

Just my couple pennies.

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Why is it a penny for your thoughts and yet people are always throwing in their two cents? Is there a business opportunity in that? – Dave S. Jan 12 2012 at 15:31
Yes Dave- you automatically double your money every time. – henny Jan 12 2012 at 17:08
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You be right and representing the post that I would have made. – Stabby Jan 13 2012 at 0:04
That's quite the compliment, thanks Coon. – Nutritionator Jan 13 2012 at 2:57
Not that this is relevant, but the idiomatic "two bits" that people throw in is $0.25, not $0.02. Fun fact! – Elunah Jul 31 at 14:31
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Most of the toxins are in or near the skin. Peeling them is recommended. It's not fair to compare a starch, which is mostly glucose, to table sugar, which is half glucose and half fructose. The fructose has no effect on blood glucose/insulin, but has other negative impacts on the liver.

White potatoes are a reasonably safe starch if prepared properly. I wouldn't reccommend them for anyone who is insulin resistant. I don't eat them very much, since I am diabetic. But for someone who need a few more carbs, they are not evilz.

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I just found out there is a restaraunt near me that serves DuckFat Fries.

I can't wait.

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Dude - don't wait, do them at home! Get the teeny baby potatoes, rub in duck fat sprinkle with coarse salt, roast. Holy hell, pure deliciousness! – jesuisjuba - paleorepublic.com Jan 12 2012 at 15:33
Where do I get duck fat? Do I need to start with the whole duck? – henny Jan 12 2012 at 17:10
@AnnaA, I start with the whole duck. I cut it in pieces and simmer; the broth and carcass will go into the slow-cooker. I render the skin by slow-frying then saute the meat (chunked) in the fat. I always have some excess fat that I use up in other cooking. – Nance Jan 12 2012 at 17:58
For clarification, the excess fat comes off the top of the slow-cooked part after chilling. The sauteed fat from the skin is used up by the time I cook all the meat and vegetables. – Nance Jan 12 2012 at 17:59
@Nance: this seems like a GREAT tip. I tried capturing the fat that rendered from roasting duck, and it always tastes oxidized by the time the duck is finished. Letting it render out in a slow cooker, where the temp never gets above boiling, seems really smart! – Christopher Gagnon Jan 12 2012 at 20:53
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There's a great 3 part article on potatoes on Stephan Guyanet's site here:

http://wholehealthsource.blogspot.com/2010/09/potatoes-and-human-health-part-i.html

I foolishly avoided spuds for a couple of years, very glad to have them back in the diet, certainly makes eating out a lot easier and brings the food bills down :)

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They're not a staple in my diet, but with some healthy fats, I have no problem with them. They're a ROOT, after all -- and what could be more ancestral than digging up some yummy roots and throwing them on the fire or in a stew-pot? Virtually every food out there, in gross quantities contains some kind of toxin. It's how they protect themselves so they can re-produce. I don't eat grains because the toxins in grains (and seeds and nuts, in my case -- with the noteable exceptions of pine-nuts, pistachios, macadamias, and cashews) totally mess with my body. Potatoes don't do that... especially if I cook them in animal fat or serve them with animal fat and protein. So I eat potatoes, on occasion, prepared in ways that my body likes.

I like sweet potatoes better than white potatoes. They are more colorful, taste better with butter or bacon fat, can be used in everything from mashes to hashes to curries and stews... but white potatoes have their place in my ancestral nourishment.

For those who asked -- here's my recipe for Sweet Potato Curry

  • 2 to 3 large sweet potatoes, peeled, quartered length-wise, and sliced into 1/4" slices
  • 1 lb meat (what I use depends on what I have on hand at any given time)
  • 2 cups bone broth
  • 1/2 cup Hatch green chilis (we like the HOT ones... but you can use mild if you prefer)
  • 1 white onion, chopped coarsely
  • 2 tablespoons ground cumin
  • 2 tablespoons ground coriander
  • 2 teaspoons ground turmeric
  • 1/2 teaspoon to 2 tablespoons crushed red pepper flakes
  • 1/2 teaspoon mustard seed
  • 1/2 teaspoon ground ginger (optional)
  • 1/2 teaspoon sea salt OR 2 tablespoons coconut aminos
  • 2 tablespoons ghee
  • 1 to 2 cups cauliflower florets

Heat a large cast-iron dutch oven until hot. Add ghee and curry spices, and cook, stirring, for about 30 seconds. Toss in onions and meat, and cook until meat is seared. Add sweet potatoes, cauliflower, Hatch chilis (or any other chili pepper--or even bell pepper), bone broth, and sea salt. Let simmer for 30 minutes. Open and pour coconut milk into mixture. Stir well, and allow to simmer for at LEAST another 30 minutes. Longer is better on this one, and if you cook a day ahead, chill and re-heat, that's even more scrumptious!

We eat this as a "stoop" -- thicker than a soup, but thinner than a stew. You could serve it over rice if you wished. We don't -- we'd rather use a spoon and not have the flavor diluted with rice winks.

This re-heats magnificently, so don't let the quantities throw you. I make it on Sunday, and we eat it for lunch for the week (usually alternating with my chipotle chili taco beef over leafy greens). Like most potato meals, though, it doesn't freeze well. The potato texture will change and, at least for me, the texture changes are... not great. One alternative we've found that DOES work if I know I'm going to have to freeze is making the curry without the potatoes in it, then preparing the potatoes separately as WHIPPED MASHED SWEET POTATOES, which DO freeze well -- then thawing both pieces together and serving the curry over the mashed sweet potatoes!

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DO tell about these sweet potatoe curries. Recipe? – primallykosher Feb 18 2012 at 15:11
Yes, a recipe for sweet potato curry, please! – TruthCkr Aug 14 at 21:07
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Personally, I LOVE sweet potatoes and will choose them over white potatoes (did this even before Paleo)...but sometimes, mostly during fall with college FB, we get free team meals after practices and they have roasted white potatoes doused with butter and garlic <3 ...ill usually have a small bit because they taste good. this occurs very infrequently though. i hardly eat starchy things.

Im constantly fighting with myself over what to and what not to eat because Im trying to lose fat, but what everyone says (and one of the things Ive started to adopt) is eat what tastes good/makes you feel good...so by all means, if you want a loaded baked potato with bacon and grassfed cheese and sour cream GO FOR IT...it wont kill you every now and then

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I think the difficulty is that different foods can 'feel good' in different ways. Learning to appreciate the enjoyment of good simple food and being able to make that choice mroe often than not is a key part of controlling weight for some people. – AndyM Jan 12 2012 at 14:39
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Important to note that potatoes are not sweet potatoes (and sweet potatoes are not yams). Very different plants. – greymouser Jan 12 2012 at 15:26
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I yam what I yam. – Dave S. Jan 12 2012 at 18:51
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I eat them on a rare occasions. French fries really hit the spot sometimes, but I'm not sure why. I feel bad afterwords, similar to how I would feel after pasta or pizza.

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Carbs and fat? It's the brain's jackpot. Any HG who could find a stash of fries once a week would be king. It's all about context. – AndyM Jan 12 2012 at 14:43
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Try cooking your own fries in lard instead of soy or whatever cheap oil restaurants do- much better! – henny Jan 12 2012 at 14:57
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Yam fries are even better. – henny Jan 12 2012 at 14:57
I get sweet potato fries if they're available. Iron Chef Michael Symon has a few restaurants around here that make fries and onion rings in lard. – Carl_Stawicki Jan 12 2012 at 15:54
Lucky you Carl_Stawicki! – henny Jan 12 2012 at 17:07
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Most starches give me the fartsies, even white rice and white potato.

I still eat them when I'm taking a break from low carb, and as long as I cook them myself (don't eat them from a restaurant where they are cooked in God-knows-what oil) I'm usually ok with a little tootage, as long as my gut doesn't get so inflamed that I'm physically ill.

Your description though isn't entirely accurate. While from a nutrient perspective, I prefer sweet potatoes, potatoes are far from being nutritionally devoid, and while yes, if you are low carb they won't do you any weightloss favors, if you are not low-carb, enjoy!

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I've found that gas like that can be a low stomach acid issue. – Allan Jul 31 at 14:14
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Everyone seems to always dance around the question. Do white potatoes contain raffinose or not? I desperately need this question directly answered. Thank you.

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Having gone paleo for the last couple years, I'm more aware of potatoes, but I do not avoid small amounts of them when eating out (e.g. ~1/4 chopped cup or so in stew or non-cream chowder with some potatoes is fine by me).

Before that, I actually maintained avoidance of potatoes for about 6 years. In the long journey of trying to discover what foods worked for me, I realized that (for whatever reason) potatoes are simply much too binding for me -- not a pleasant experience to eat in quantity, ever.

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Little starchy for my taste, so if I actually liked em at around 40g carbs or so a tator and a goodly amount of fat and some exercise one-two potatos aren't going to put me too far from my target for carbs/day. I like sweet potatoes, and different yams better if I'm gonna bother with tubers at all though.

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I use to consume quite a few. I went through a small phase where I was consuming about 3-4 lbs of only potatoes, but I stopped because of various articles stating that people with skin issues and autoimmune problems shouldn't consume them. So alas, now I am only consuming sweet potatoes, taro, green plantain and various fruits.

I'll tell you one thing though, I had the best body comp I have ever had when I was consuming a high "white potato" diet. I have never been so muscular looking in my life. Sadly other starches just don't give me the same effect.

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I assume you had skin issues and autoimmune problems, then... Did they resolve after you stopped eating them? – Austin Jan 13 2012 at 1:02
Not yet, but I am being more cautious with potatoes, because of potential leaky gut complications. – ROB Jan 13 2012 at 21:18
ROB, I 100% agree with this. I was at my healthiest ever on a diet with practically only potatoes and sunflower oil (= potato chips and french fries). I tried to do it again last year but then I got hives. I was eating the skin of potatoes and no fat, so that might be a stupid attempt. I'm still afraid of white potatoes, but when school ends I'm definitely gonna experiment (cuz then I don't care if I have bad skin, nobody cares anyways :) ). – Korion Feb 18 2012 at 16:03
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After a year of strict Paleo I started adding things back in slowly to see their affect on me. I do potatoes. Especially when I have a hard workout. It's a great source of starch. I cook them long and slow to breakdown as much of the bad stuff as I can. I do perfectly fine with them so I don't worry about it. But I can see why more sensitive people would have to eliminate them.

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I am .

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Then again, I'm ok with some grains, seed oils, and fructose as well. – Kasra May 13 2012 at 22:20
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No one has addressed the issue of resistant starches in this thread yet? Then I suppose I have to.

Cooked, then cooled white potatoes are one of the classes of so-called "resistant starches" that act as prebiotics (although it's classed as an "RS3" and not the more-studied "RS2").

So, not necessarily so bad for you.

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And much less farty than inulin rich foods like jicama, sunchokes, and chicory. – Happy Now Jun 3 at 6:50
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Touch of salt, touch of pepper.

Olive oil? Duck fat? I'm good to go.

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I don't buy them but if I'm eating out and they come with a steak, I'll have 'em. I treat them like white rice, aka a "half-cheat" that probably isn't gonna kill me. From a scale of Cinnabon to Sirloin, they're probably not so bad.

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I am ok with them.

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Once a month maybe is ok.

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Potatoes? EAT MORE!

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fruits>potatoes

Both are nutritious

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I'm not okay with them. I see them as cheat meals.

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