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I've been reading through http://www.gutsense.org a bit with recommendation of a few paleohackers. Just wondering if anyone has purchased the guys Recovery Program (an array of pills) which claims to restore intestinal flora and correct bowel issues. Any feedback would be greatly appreciated!

*Note: I'm looking specifically for feedback on this program. If you have other constipation tips, I welcome them; however, I have tried many many recommendations already.

Thank you in advance :)

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I read the book but never ordered his products. Since then I've solved aspects of constipation with approaches similar to his. So his products could work. But my opinion is that for anyone who's had long-standing constipation, the best method is to break constipation to its component parts and attack attack each part at a time with proven, effective methods. There is no one size fits all, even though everyone comes out of the woodwork claiming, "I fixed my constipation by doing ..." – Namby Pamby Feb 19 2012 at 17:44

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Never tried it, but I too looked at it and decided against it! The only one I thought looked like a good one was the L-glutamine supplement, but when I looked at other brands and companies, you can get it much cheaper than the multi-packs. So, my decision was based on the fact that you could break down the packs and buy the individual pills, and that way leave out the pro-biotic pill (b/c why take that when you can eat the real thing?). I take vitamin D, omega 3 already, the only thing I thought of trying from this program is the L-glutamine. Anyways, this was kind of my breakdown:

The enterophilus capsule-There is an internal medicine doctor who likens taking probiotic pills to restore intestinal flora like trying to plant corn in a clear-cropped rainforest- adding only a handful of species, dropping a few helpful drops of water in a river. The amount of probiotics in pill compared to fermented foods is incomparable, and randomized testing of probiotic pills have shown that a large portion of the probiotics are non-viable (were killed in processing) and aren't the type of bacteria it says on the bottle (statements of multi-strains often just contain one strain). If you like probiotic foods and don't experience any digestive stress form them (sometimes people may experience gas), they are a much (MUCH) richer source than expensive pills. As soon as something says "probiotic" on it and it's in a pill form, immediately become skeptical of any program- no probiotic pills have shown efficacy in a peer-reviewed esteemed academic journal (usually a sign). Just eat the real thing!

The L-glutamine pill- you get that from pork, poultry, eggs, and avocados in nice high bioavailable levels. However, it does act as an appetite suppressant and some people have reported increased gut health which they claim is related to their better mucosal lining (hard to say, b/c not many studies on it and you can't really feel your mucosal lining). It doesn't say if it comes with B-6, unless I missed that, but you need B-6 for absorption. This supplement might be worth a shot!

The other ones look like Vitamin-C supplements, a multi-vitamin, Vitamin-E, lechithin, calucium/magnesium citrate, and Omega-3. These are all things you can get at your local pharmacy for a better price, in my opinion. I don't supplement vitamin C or E or take a multivitamin- I usually just supplement omega-3 and Vitamin-D, so I decided to stick to that.

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Yikes, 'calucium/magnesium citrate' that stuff really messes up my stomach. – Bread-Eating Beelzebub Feb 3 2012 at 16:47
Yeah, I took that one years ago, and it gave me stomach aches too! Unbearable on an empty stomach. – JeJ Feb 3 2012 at 16:59
Thanks for your input Jenny! – PaleoGal Feb 3 2012 at 23:20
I don't have any problems with calcium and/or magnesium citrate... weird. – Korion Feb 19 2012 at 13:47
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Always be wary of info based on unsubstantiated "opinions" from the general public;

Probiotics can be a beneficial addition to one's diet.... and research does support this.

"Bacteria in your digestive tract can be good or bad, according to the website Best Probiotic. It quotes the Royal Academy of Medicine England as blaming an imbalance between good and bad bacteria for causing 80 percent of all degenerative diseases. Probiotic supplements with "good" bacteria have become increasingly popular. They can aid the immune system, digestion and vitamin absorption, as well as prevent diarrhea and irritable bowel syndrome. The website Women to Women recommends probiotics that combine saccharomyces, lactobacillus acidophilus and bifidobacteria in the billions. MayoClinic.com also recommends lactobacillus and advises looking for products that contain live, active cultures. You should always check with your doctor before adding any supplements to your diet...."

Read more: http://www.livestrong.com/article/254489-the-best-rated-probiotics/#ixzz1mpdrk66R

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"Two Studies Explore the Potential Health Benefits of Probiotics

The World Health Organization defines probiotics as “live microorganisms, which when administered in adequate amounts confer a health benefit on the host.” The most common types of these beneficial bacteria are Lactobacilli and Bifidobacteria. Previous studies indicate that probiotics may have a role in treating gastrointestinal illnesses, boosting immunity, and preventing or slowing the development of certain types of cancer. In two recent NCCAM-funded studies, researchers investigated how probiotics may promote such health benefits.

Researchers at Baylor College of Medicine and M.D. Anderson Cancer Center investigated how Lactobacillus reuteri ATCC PTA 6475 might work to slow the growth of certain cancerous tumors. Their study documented the molecular mechanisms of the probiotic’s effects in human myeloid leukemia-derived cells—i.e., how it regulates the proliferation of cancer cells and promotes cancer cell death. The researchers noted that a better understanding of these effects may lead to development of probiotic-based regimens for preventing colorectal cancer and inflammatory bowel disease.

In another study, researchers at Virginia Polytechnic Institute and Ohio State University looked at whether Lactobacillus acidophilus might enhance the immune-potentiating effects of an attenuated vaccine (a vaccine prepared from a weakened live virus) against human rotavirus infection—the most common cause of severe dehydrating diarrhea in infants and children worldwide. The investigators’ tests on newborn pigs found that animals given both a vaccine and the probiotic had a better immune response than the animals given the vaccine alone. The researchers concluded that probiotics may offer a safe way to increase the effectiveness of rotavirus vaccine in humans.

In both studies, the investigators called for additional research into the mechanisms behind the health-related effects of probiotics."

http://nccam.nih.gov/research/results/spotlight/110508.htm

====== also see;

http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/releases/143524.php

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2011/10/111031114951.htm

http://articles.cnn.com/2009-03-10/health/healthmag.probiotics.stomach_1_boulardii-probiotic-saccharomyces?_s=PM:HEALTH

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/09/20/probiotics-colds_n_968507.html

etc, etc,. etc.,....

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I have struggled with painful constipation all my life. Recently, I started getting liver inflammation. I went to specialists, got MRIs and Ultrasounds, but the doctors couldn't figure it out. I eventually found, through my own experimentation, that the inflammation flared up from 2 things -- sugar and volume of pressure in my abdomen (food and waste). So, I went Paleo to get rid of sugar and foods that convert into sugar. The inflammation got better, but the constipation got worse.

I recently tried the supplements from Gutsense and they work amazingly well! I'm defecating every day, multiple times per day, very reliably. I've tried all sorts of laxatives, and sometimes they wouldn't get anything moving at all. I don't know whether his low-fiber diet works, but the supplements definitely do -- better than anything else I've tried.

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So you were born without the ability to poop? – Poop Master MC Dec 1 at 21:30
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I am using it now and am at the end of my first month. I don't love it but I am seeing very slow results. I have used PREBIOTICS before and was never sure of its potential outside of scientific studies. But I am feeling much more relief on a daily basis, when I am consistently using the products. I purchased the full packet for $119.00. Four products used at the beginning and end of the day. The most substantial piece is the GI Recovery, taken before morning and evening meals. It will take time though. There's a lot of colon footage down there... So, give it a while. I am not sure about the company. They only offer a seven day return policy. I am desperate. I gave it a good go. I am just enjoying the fact that I even have some relief. Sooo much better than before! I hope this is the answer you were looking for.

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I have completed my one month and am relieved to say that I am back to normal. I have regular movements and seem to be consistent on a daily basis. I do notice that I still have a problem as to stress, which I have always had and is only related to constipation and nothing to do with the initial low flora count as I had before this treatment. I still consume the Vitamin C powder that was included in the packaged program. I believe in these products and will use the same treatment in the future when I am subject to low flora counts due to intense antibiotic medicines/bacterial infections.JASON – Jason May 5 at 19:21

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