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In the spirit of the "Shit Girls/Guys/etc. say" videos and the "Shit Paleos say" post, what about stuff we've heard from the other side?

"You eat what?!?"

"But grains are good for you!"

"Oh, I could never live without ___ (sugar, bread, pasta, salt, cheese, muffins, snack cakes, peanut butter...)"

"You spend how much money on food?!?"

"Oh, so it's basically just like Atkins."

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I totally got the second and last one. – Dean Feb 3 2012 at 13:01
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Gawd! I hate it people say the last one. – bc4work Feb 3 2012 at 13:11
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yeah, my food budget is most of my monthly expenses aside from rent. I get even crazier looks when people see that I've treated myself and spend good money on teflon-free cookware (like cast iron), or similar paleo kitchen items. – Caleb the Hobbit Feb 3 2012 at 16:16
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Actually, Mystery Man X, that's not completely true: “DuPont’s own research suggested a link between PFOA and rare birth defects in animals. Of the seven pregnant women at [a] West Virginia plant, two of the seven babies born bore similar serious birth defects." Offgassing of PFOA, which can occur at temperatures as low as 396F, can be fatal to birds and cause flu-like symptoms in human beings - do I really want something in my kitchen that will kill a bird just by getting hot? And if you're concerned about your iron levels with cast iron, there's always good old stainless steel. – JansSushiBar Mar 11 2012 at 20:44
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"You're going to have a heart attack."

"I'm definitely going to have to go the gym after this cake/doughnut/ice cream/cookie."

"How can you not eat this cake/doughnut/ice cream/cookie? It's Debbie's release-from-the-hospital-after-her-fourth-heart-attack-from-too-many-cake/doughnut/ice cream/cookie-parrties-party!"

"Spin class is my faaaaaaaaaaavorite. But I'm still can't lose this 10 pounds. I must need to do more spin classes."

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I wish I could give you extra likes for making fun of Spinners. LOL, I've yet to meet a thin one, but they love it! – CraftyCrofts Feb 9 2012 at 19:46
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I know spin is supposed to be chronic cardio, but the spin class at my gym (London) is really good, and I do it all the time. The trainer is kind of primal, so I suppose that's why. It's a tabata-inspired, shock-your-muscles kind of workout. I use it as my sprint workout. Just mentioning :-) – Milla Mar 11 2012 at 23:04
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"After this meal I still have 1433 calories left. But I need to watch my fat intake."

"It's the saturated fat that you need to look out for."

"Yeah, I eat pretty healthy. I stay away from all red meat. Doctor said it's the reason for my high cholesterol."

"I stay away from red meat and pork. And I eat a TON of fruit and whole grain. Want a slice of my papaya?"

"Are there any 100 calorie snack packs left?"

"I did Zumba last night and burned over 800 calories!"

"So you eat raw meat?"

"I'm diabetic."

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LOL @ diabetic. – Laina Feb 3 2012 at 19:29
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I like raw meat :) – Paleo Designer Feb 4 2012 at 0:58
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"Have you read the china study?"

"But lamb has so much cholesterol!"

"But eggs have so much cholesterol!"

"But liver has so much cholesterol!"

"I'm sorry, but I just can't fathom how that much cholesterol is good for you!"

"You look great! I baked these cookies for you..."

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+1 on that last one! :-D – jj Feb 3 2012 at 22:57
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HAHA! Love this one. But I don't get the China study one... explain? :) – DanielleO812 Feb 4 2012 at 1:38
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@DNONeill - The China Study is a heavily biased book used by vegans to justify reducing their meat intake. – Joshua Feb 4 2012 at 2:01
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After explaining no grains, legumes, dairy, sugar....

"Then what DO you eat??"

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Get that one all the time! It sounds so crazy to me because (even with my many food intollerances) I still get more variety than people on the SAD diet, who just eat rice, corn, soy, and low-quality animal products in endless combinations. There's more nutritional variety in the wide array of fruits, veggies, and high-quality animal products that I eat! Plus, I relish my food much more now that when I was addicted to processed food, wheat, and sugar, getting sicker every day... – Createveryday Mar 12 2012 at 17:04
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"Yeah but you have a crazy metabolism. I could never eat like that or I'd get fat."

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or... "how do you stay so thin?" stuffs face with cookies while drinking a diet coke – DanielleO812 Feb 3 2012 at 21:48
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"Anything is OK in moderation."

"Just eat a balanced diet."

"I support Paula Deen."

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i really hate when they say moderation. i always say, ya even cyanide – Anthony Pierre Feb 3 2012 at 14:07
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I hate it too, My ex-doctor told me this – Crystalie Feb 4 2012 at 0:40
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A friend once retorted "I practice moderation in moderation" – lostmitten Feb 4 2012 at 0:51
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Yeah, crystal meth is OK in moderation – Soccertanker Feb 9 2012 at 23:33
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"I can't give up starches, I need fiber for constipation."

"... it's fat-free!"

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"...It's fat-free" - my mom, always. I've stopped trying to explain anything to her. – Dunnie Feb 3 2012 at 16:17
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Dunnie, that's exactly exactly how I came up with that one! lol. – Missi Feb 3 2012 at 18:48
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"We can't have you over for dinner anymore, because there's nothing we can cook for you. What do you eat?" (Repeated monthly.)

"You must come see this movie our vegetarian club is showing. It's called Veducated, and it will change your mind for sure."

"But you're clogging up your arteries!"

"But that diet is so unhealthy!" (This from a morbidly obese person who had asked how I lost weight.)

"That's really extreme. I believe we should eat a healthy, balanced diet. And anyway, grains are good for you."

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Sounds like my high school health teacher!!!! I am currently planning a bombardment of paleo supporting facts to hit him with :1 – Soccertanker Feb 4 2012 at 1:50
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I also hear the no-time excuse a lot.

I also hear its close cousin, "I could never afford to feed my family a paleo diet." This comes from a woman who should own stock in those cookie/cracker/chip snack packs, cereals, dinosaur-shaped microwave chicken nuggets, "Go-gurts," diet soda and other incredibly expensive convenience foods. It's all her three kids eat. o.O

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Don't get me started. This is what my guys eat when I don't have them. My recent experience attending my son's field trip as a chaperone and seeing what he had packed for lunch (an "uncrustables" pb&j, a bag of Fritos, a Go-gurt, a Trix cereal bar, a pack of gummy snacks, and a gatorade...basically a brown bag full of NAD's) inspired me to do a work-up of the nutrition and cost differences between sending that junk vs. sending real food. The hard part will be presenting the information, but it's worth it to me to make the effort. – Invisible Caveman Feb 3 2012 at 17:39
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No time - my ass! This one drives me nuts. Sure, I spend a lot of time preparing my paleo meals for the week - a LOT more than I used to pre-paleo days. But life is about sacrifices, right? Lazy ass Americans got used to the fast food life, microwaving TV dinners and calling it a meal. People just need to get their heads right. – DanielleO812 Feb 3 2012 at 21:37
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I always challenge folks to time themselves frying up an egg in the morning versus a bowl of microwavable oatmeal. Even against a bowl of cereal, it only comes in second by a minute. Start the heat under the pan, get the butter/coconut oil and S&P, crack eggs, cook, done. – Karen P. Feb 4 2012 at 21:02
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Agreed, DN. I prefer to take the time to cook. In fact, paleo has nurtured a love of cooking in me, as something I can do to center myself in an otherwise hectic environment. It's worth it every time. – Caleb the Hobbit Feb 5 2012 at 4:50
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I always ask people "OK, so it takes more time -- what, exactly, are you doing with all that time you're 'saving'... what are you saving it FOR if you're sick and miserable?" – Firestorm Mar 12 2012 at 1:21
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Today, at lunch

Her: "Wow, that smells SO GOOD! What is it?"
Me: "It's just some salmon with lettuce and spoonful of tzatziki." Her: "That's so healthy!"

The puzzling thing to me about other people's diets is that they make themselves miserable eating food they don't like. I like what I eat on paleo (I do eat yogurt. Shoot me.). I miss some other food (cookies), but at least I'm not miserable eating what I DO eat.

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Why is there the assumption that "diet" means "eat terrible unfun food until weight lost"? I mention "my diet" and people say, "you're on a diet?" or alternatively act as if healthy tasty food is an oxymoron. +1 for liking what you eat. – Caleb the Hobbit Feb 5 2012 at 4:47
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"I'm going back on Weight Watchers for the 17th time. This time I'm going to make it work!"

(I have one this acquaintance who struggles with her weight, is metabolically resistant to all the usual methods, and IMHO is perfect candidate for paleo. I have sent her information, book recs, shared my experience. She keeps going back to ww, hating it, going off, and gaining 10 more pounds. She comments frequently on how great I look and complains frequently about her struggle to lose. SHE CANNOT GET PAST CW. I think she thinks, about me, "it's ok for you because you're diabetic and so of course you can't eat [sugar]." But I'm some kind of exception or anomaly and of course "Atkins" would be unhealthy for normal people like her. I have vowed to shut my mouth about this with her unless she comes to me and asks. Everytime she goes back to ww I feel like...I want to stab her with a baby carrot. I do understand, in a way, because I remember when I was too emotionally attached to my bread and pasta to even consider the idea. But I also know I was willing to TRY anything, and results and feeling good on low carb convinced me, and that eventually evolved towards paleo. ANYWAY! Long parenthetical. Sorry. Point is: I don't get why people will return again and again to something that fails them every time but won't take a chance on something unconventional just once. That is crazy shit.) (eta it's like going back to a bad boyfriend or girlfriend again and again!)

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This won't help her either, but I am pretty sure I'm metabolically resistant to the usual methods...whether that's a legacy of restrictive eating or the side effect of psych meds, I can't say. And you know what's working for me? Paleo. Imagine. (rolls eyes) – CharlotteM Feb 6 2012 at 16:47
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Haha. 'stab her with a baby carrot' priceless. – MrsD May 12 2012 at 0:40
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Upvote for the carrot. – Lesley Jun 6 at 20:26
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My view is that simply finding oneself in such a dialogue with a SAD person is a no-win situation. I consider myself successful when I am eating the way I want to eat, without providing any form of explanation or justification or rationale. Without even discussing diet. If this means my non-eating of cupcakes captures the attention a serious pastry eater, at most I'll find myself simply saying, "No thanks" and refusing subtle invitations to argue.

Imagine that you're a pagan, or an atheist. And you decide to go to the local Southern Baptist congregation where you think it might prove fruitful to make general statements in behalf of the tenets of your pagan or atheist worldview. Would that be a conversation you'd like to have? Would you expect to be greeted warmly and kindly?

People very rarely switch paradigms based on evidence. In the present case, this is because the evidence that a Paleo eater produces (studies, research, science) is ipso fact considered invalid at worst, irrelevant at best.

Now, if someone I love or care about is eating SAD and asks about the diet I seem to be on, I may choose to "share" but only in a setting that is free of contention or the need to be right or to make anyone else wrong. The key is: I need to receive an invitation to talk about my diet, before saying word-one. Barring an invitation, I simply notice that my diet is different from yours, or hers, or his, and that's about it.

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I totally get this respect it. But I'm amazed at how often people ask questions or bring up topics, even seemingly un-diet related like cancer, that Paleo becomes relevant for. On top of that, I get that some don't want to proselytize, and I do think living as an example is the best way to go, but don't you think the stakes are pretty damn high right about now? I mean, we're looking at EVERYONE in America being overweight/obese in another 20 years. – Karen P. Feb 4 2012 at 21:06
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Coworker: "Well, bread is in the Bible, so I'm eating it."

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Arg. As a Catholic, that just... arg. I guess you could reply that St. John the Baptist ate locusts and honey, and suggest they try that too. – lostmitten Feb 4 2012 at 0:58
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"Wheat Belly" makes a convincing argument that modern dwarf wheat, the tall wheat your grandfather ate, and the wheat of Biblical days are 3 totally different plants. The wheat talked about in the Bible was, over many centuries, cross bred with numerous other plants to produce tall wheat. Dwarf wheat (what we eat today) was genetically engineered. Most people wouldn't even recognize it as wheat if they were standing in the middle of a field of it. – Talldog Feb 9 2012 at 22:03
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It's confusing when it comes from pious teetotalers. So bread is okay, but wine isn't... even though both are in the Bible? I didn't get into it. – Sarah Mar 13 2012 at 22:28
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"There are many ways to be healthy."

"Different things work for different people." (Yeah, right. So does a lion have several different theories and methodologies for her diet? No? I didn't think so.)

"My dad just reduced his cholesterol intake and takes statins, and now he's fine." Ugh.

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"Yeah, but what was the life expectancy of cavemen who ate like that? 25 years? 30 years?"

Edited to add one I just heard 5 minutes ago:

"That's why Paula Deen got the diabetes- for eating a pound of butter a day!" (I couldn't resist, I had to argue this one.)

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(at coffeeshop)

Me: I'll take black coffee (possibly adding heavy cream later) Silly friend: Hi, I'll take a low-fat soy mocha latte...oh, and can you add hazelnut flavor syrup?

(friend and I stare at each other as if the other is crazy)

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I work at the coffeeshop...yep. It's a struggle not to look at people funny. (Heck, it was a struggle not to look at them funny when I wasn't doing paleo. Who drinks that soy-mocha sh*t?) – CharlotteM Feb 3 2012 at 21:31
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It's them Vegans! – Curmujeon Feb 3 2012 at 22:38
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Given that soy milk (or nondairy creamer) is often the only dairy alternative available at coffee shops, it isn't that strange. I can't do dairy, so when I go out for coffee (a handful of times a year), I have soy. It's a cheat, and I'm not under any impression I'm making a healthy choice. But the random stranger observing my order has no idea that the gingerbread soy latte is literally a once a year thing for me, and not a daily thing. – jess6 Feb 4 2012 at 0:16
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I would love for coffee shops to start offering (BPA-free, guar-gum-free) coconut milk. I sometimes bring my own to work and add it to my tea/coffe later. – Sara S. Feb 4 2012 at 18:48
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Me too, Jen. I always get herbal tea. If possible, I try to get us to go to a wonderful tea shop that gives you a whole tea pot of amazing loose leaf teas. It brews right in front of you, and they are SO delicious. The selection is huge, and there's a whole page of custom-blended herbal teas...so nice! One of the treats yet available to me. – Createveryday Mar 12 2012 at 16:58
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"We like liver but it's too high in cholesterol so we don't eat it."

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Facepalm! That has got to be the winner! – raydawg Feb 4 2012 at 20:49
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My husband would add -Besides Liver is poison since its the bodies filtering system. Sigh. – Senneth Mar 12 2012 at 17:05
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1) "but dr. oz said..."

2) my ex-mom-inlaw: "dr. oz said red meat raises ur chance for diabetes" me: "that's impossible cuz meat doesn't trigger insulin imbalance" her: "i know that. but why would he say that?" me: "because he's wrong and doesn't fact check!" her: "i know he's wrong. but why would he say that?" ((i don't think she understood she was stuck on a loop like a computer operating on pre-set assumptions - "people on tv must make true statements all the time"))

3) "but this is complex carbohydrate, not simple carbohydrate" ((there will be 1-2hrs of a delay to ur blood sugar spiking but it'll be the same spike all the same))

4) "but this is carbohydrate, not sugar" ((and my head explodes...))

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Oh god oh god oh god. My mom acts like Dr. Oz (and those folks from The Doctors which airs around the same time as his show) is some kind of medicinal god. When I first told her I was doing paleo she said, "Oh, is that like Dr. Oz's Prehistoric Diet? That looked so healthy." – OddBallin Feb 4 2012 at 21:00
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i don't even wanna know what dr. oz would consider a prehistoric diet... and do u remember the days it used to be "but oprah said..." lol – justin Feb 5 2012 at 3:05
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Any doctor that follows "Dr" with their first name creates an immediate sense of distrust for me. – JeJ Feb 9 2012 at 23:11
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"That was a great workout! Want to get pizza and beer after?"

"How many points is in this donut?"

"No, this is the HEALTHY ice cream. duh."

"Look, this microwavable dinner is called lean cuisine. It must be good for you."

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Or just good business sense. – lostmitten Feb 3 2012 at 19:03
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I once had a lean cuisine, turkey and potatoes, with some added butter for the healthy man here. :D – Soccertanker Feb 4 2012 at 1:53
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Food Tech Teacher- " You know an amazing amount of information!"

Doctor - " You should be eating a variety of foods, such as pasta"

Health Class teacher ( Obese) - " No that's entirely wrong, saturated fat is bad for you and carbs give you energy * eats bagel* "

Uncle - " Yeah well if you were a REAL caveman you should go and hunt your meat , we aren't cavemen anymore"

Me just finishing explaining paleo to friend , friend- " oh so it's something called a glucose diet? " ( W T F )

friends- " Bread is everything, I would never chuck bread away or say it's bad. It's written in the book"

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Lol @ glucose diet. What even. – April S. Feb 9 2012 at 19:26
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"Oh ok... But I can't do that... I have high cholesterol" "You are excluding an entire food group, you can't do that" "You can't eat that much eggs... Three a week is is the maximum!"

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Oh god, I remember when I felt like a badass for having eaten 1 entire egg in a day, but I wasn't worried because I never ate sat-fat or cholesterol-ridden foods so it wouldn't affect my heart too bad. Yesterday I ate 10 eggs; the day before - 12 (it's been a lazy cooking week). I entered my information on cron-o-meter and apparently I exceeded my daily cholesterol by 782%. Whoops? – OddBallin Feb 4 2012 at 3:36
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I just downloaded this app to count my calories. I burnt 300 on the treadmill last night, which means I can have cheese on my tortilla today.

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"I just ate two-hours ago and now I'm hungry again!"

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"Too many eggs!"

Pffffft.

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+1 for profile pic. +1 for eggs. – Phoenix Feb 3 2012 at 18:32
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"I shall consume... consume everything (eggs)." – Phazo Feb 4 2012 at 2:50
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"I eat really healthy, I eat lots of whole wheat bread and lots of bananas. And I keep my meat intake very low"
"I get my magnesium from beer"
"I don't feel very well"
"Why do you go to sleep so early?"
"Why do you get up so early?"
(After I coughed once) "Are you okay? Do you feel sick?"
"Yuk. Veggies."
"Why do healthy things taste bad?"

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Him: "I just don't understand why you want to do this whole...no-carb thing all the time. They won't kill you!"

Me [nomming down on sweet potato]: "no-carb thing?"

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"You have some interesting ideas on health" (after I put coconut cream in my coffee + a square of 100% chocolate. I said "Why, thank you." despite her politically correct attempt at being scared. (This is a coworker that I regularly see eating doritos and other crap-in-a-bag all day long, but things like beef jerky are anathema to her.)

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'One of the guys from Ben and Jerry's died of a heartattack, that's what you get for eating so much fat I guess'

'So why does the NHS tell me that saturated fat is bad?? I think they know more than you fella'

'How many eggs do you eat?' Me: 'about 3 or 4 a day' Friend: 'What??? That's crazy! I eat 2 or 3 a week TOPS'

TV: 'Now 50% less fat!'

Me: 'I eat a high fat diet' Friend 'Dude, mcdonalds is BAD for you' Me: 'I know?'

'Ugh can't believe how many doughnuts I ate! Definitely going for a run tomorrow'

'Dude, shut the f*ck up, no one cares about your eating habits!' Me: 'Sorry'

'I really need to lose weight' Me: 'Just eat a high fat diet' Friend: 'hahahahahaha!'

Women on BBC Breakfast 'The link between red meat and cancer is now basically irrefutable' Reporter: 'So what sorts of things should we be eating instead?' 'Pulses, grains, soy, vegetarian options' Me: 'Aaaaagghhh!!! Shut up!!! Aaggghhhh!!!'

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How about we examine what our meat is eating first... – red_leaf May 11 2012 at 19:39
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But all the people back home ate so much red meat! Until I came to USA I'd never really heard of cancer! I was like... "Cancer... whut's that?"... and our men and women lived to their nineties... and would still walk from one town to another to see their family! – a mesmerizing trickster Jun 6 at 20:23
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+1 for shut the ** up hahahaha – smackles Jun 6 at 21:10
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"I can't afford to eat like that" As they spend $8 on a fast food meal. I cacn cook two or three paleo meals for that price.

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plus, i'd be hungry in about half an hour after that fast food meal, end up spending another $8 just to feel satisfied... – mzrdnan Jun 6 at 16:10
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"I don't have time to make stuff at home."

This is probably one of the most common excuses for eating fast food which I heard again from someone recently. It was often my excuse pre-paleo as well, even knowing for years from a logical standpoint that eating straight-up junk food wasn't good for me.

SAD but true, unfortunately.

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