Paleo Diet and Paleolithic Diet Questions & Answers

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What are some suggestions for intermittent fast breakfasts? PHD shows a picture of coffee and creme but I don't drink coffee. It also mentions non-starch veggies. Protein is off limits as well. Here's what I've come up with:

Guacamole w/cabbage chips
Celery and nut butter
Roasted veggies (probably broccoli and cauliflower)
Kim Chi

edited Feb 6 2012 at 15:44

asked Feb 6 2012 at 0:55

balor123
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Do you mean IF or IM? And please define IM. – Nance Feb 6 2012 at 1:02

Is IM intermediate? – Nance Feb 6 2012 at 1:03

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assuming that breakfast is not within your eating window, then you should really just stick stick to water. are you after some other "fasting" versions (cheats) to make things easier/less stressful. ie. fibre allowed, short fats allowed (mct, coconut, palm kernel), protein sparing etc.... – daz Feb 6 2012 at 2:39

I meant intermittent fasts. Corrected in question. – balor123 Feb 6 2012 at 3:12

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You mean the breakfast you eat to break the fast? I'm think a breakfast during a fast would be an empty plate... – Renee Feb 6 2012 at 16:16

Casey · Answer 1 · 2012-02-06 01:55:44Z UTC

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balor123, you should know the answer to this:

Water.

answered Feb 6 2012 at 1:55

Casey
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hehe... all the water questions? – balor123 Feb 6 2012 at 3:17

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@balor, LOL, you d r o w n e d us with water questions. :-)) – Nance Feb 6 2012 at 4:00

Nick · Answer 2 · 2012-02-06 01:16:57Z UTC

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IF mean fast. Just skip it man. Don't make this more complicated than it has to be. Take bcaas if you want with water, drink tea or coffee, but as far as food just don't eat.

answered Feb 6 2012 at 1:16

Nick
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@Nick, good point but I was assuming breakfast was part of his eating window. – Nance Feb 6 2012 at 1:23

Yes. I thought the idea was to nourish while depriving pathogens and cancer cells of their primary energy sources. Fasting altogether also impacts the health cells. I'm guessing both probably modulate the immune system in different ways but my question was referring to the days that I'll be eating breakfast. Days where I'm naturally not that hungry I'll just skip it. – balor123 Feb 6 2012 at 3:16

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If I were to pick a food to eat during a regular feed day I would go with protein and fats. I find for myself n=1, that I run better and I'm more alert in a higher fat system with moderate protein and low to mod carbs depending on activity level. Ketogenic if you will – Nick Feb 7 2012 at 17:09

Eric · Answer 3 · 2012-02-06 05:46:00Z UTC

In PHD it is mentioned that a fat only breakfast is one way to aproach an otherwise 8 hour feeding window. Keep protein and carbs in the 8 hour window with fat outside the window.

It is funny because we now have at least four groups:

Fasting: Water PHD: Fat breakfast Dr. K: Protein Others: Honey and rice cake.

I am thinking that egg yolks might satsify the PHD portion. However in the book this is optional for sure.

trjones · Answer 4 · 2012-02-06 20:31:15Z UTC

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Is this a trick question?

answered Feb 6 2012 at 20:31

trjones
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No I'm looking for ideas. – balor123 Feb 7 2012 at 16:19

mindmt · Answer 5 · 2012-02-06 16:30:10Z UTC

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When you're breaking fast - eat what the hell you like. In the run up, though go lo/0 carb..

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mindmt
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Tyler · Answer 6 · 2012-02-06 18:04:54Z UTC

I think that the PHD utilized a protein fast in order to trigger autophagy.

So leafy greens (consisting of mostly soluble fiber, which is converted in fat through bacteria) and short/medium-chain fats are allowed to appease hunger and speed up the breakdown of ketone bodies while still triggering autophagy.

Last week in An Anti-Cancer Diet (Sep 28, 2011), I recommended that cancer patients eat 400 to 600 carb calories per day, but combine it with a program of daily intermittent fasting plus longer “ketogenic fasts” and periods of ketogenic dieting or low-protein dieting to promote autophagy.

http://perfecthealthdiet.com/?p=4802

What do you eat for IF breakfasts?

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