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if you can get past the WAY it's written, it does contain a lot of useful information. it's a little intense and metaphysical at times, and sometimes her feminist / anti-patriarchal analogies and metaphors just made me roll my eyes...but it did give me the ability to argue any vegetarian under the table (no matter what the reason for the vegetarianism). i'm coming from an ex-vegetarian perspective, so it also helped me clarify some things about how i felt on some of these issues.

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"feminist/anti-patriarchal analogies and metaphors just made me role my eyes"- Even if the book was about nutrition, it is not surprising that her well advertised feminist background was involved. It is a major part of who she is, and I would be surprised if it WASN'T in the book. This is one of the aspects of the book I respected, her staying true to her whole person. – JeJ Feb 10 2012 at 3:02
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i agree with jenny that her feminism or anti-patriarchal ideals don't take away from the book. many academic authors have made convincing and substantiated analysis that imperialism, patriarchalism (spelling), and agriculture are all connected and related. i think it's just like how some ppl don't like "chick flicks" because it's too much about feelings; some ppl require their readings to be devoted of feelings and only written in a cold hard way. so i think some of the more feminine parts of the book can go either way. – justin Feb 10 2012 at 3:45
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I like that she seemed to write it while still riding that "middle finger moment" wave about what she had been previously been led to believe in her vegan life. I generally don't try to use anger as a motivator, but this book is so full of justifiable anger that it felt pretty good feeling her anger and my own about the same issues while reading the book.

I think anyone who has tried to push through on an animal-free diet even though they weren't thriving (not saying it can't be done, just saying I couldn't do it) and especially if they pushed it to the point of becoming ill will find the book cathartic. It is good therapy for when you have that "accepting your place in the food chain" moment, but still have guilt issues acting on it.

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Yeah, that anger, so evident in the title alone (maybe not to us, but the harshest way to attack any belief is to call it a myth), is why I'm hesitant to suggest it to my vegetarian sister. I don't want to seem like I'm manically proselytizing and if she goes into it on the defense, I'm thinking she won't be able to open her mind to it enough. – OddBallin Feb 10 2012 at 3:32
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I gave a copy of it to a mostly vegetarian family member for xmas, and she's still talking to me. I only thought to give it to her though because when I was reading it at a family gathering she seemed to enjoy flipping through it. Out of the blue might not be so good. Maybe baby steps starting with talking about rewilding efforts where large ruminant grazing has been able to reverse both desertification and melting of the permafrost in grazing experiments. – Happy Now Feb 10 2012 at 3:49
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i have a copy and it's what started me on the journey to use nutrition to safe my own life (cheesy.... lol).

it's written extremely well with 3 different sections in the book - 1) the philosophy of eating and life itself, 2) realistic prediction of what really happens if the world ate grass/farm grown meat as a stable opposed to CAFO meat or the world on a veg diet, and 3) science.

i found the book very effective in dispelling all the lies about how the world could be fed with grains/veggies. it was very clear and simple in explaining the issues with how grains aren't meant for consumptions (not like how some ppl just focus on such complicated micro chemical stuff...).

on top of all that, she was a vegan for 20 odd yrs from teenage yrs and because of that she now still has spinal damage and many other physical issues. her writing shows her deep passion about her past.

it's a must read!

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I think my biggest take-away was that you really can't remove humans from the natural cycle of life/predator/prey/food/death, and attempts to do so have consequences that aren't always so great. Also there are too many people on the planet.

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I have read it and enjoyed it, but it was so long ago that I can't really give you any specific thoughts about it. It's one on my list to read again, but I have to get through my stack of new books first.

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I read it, enjoyed it, but had to process it through a filter to separate out the over-the-top aspects. It is one of the books that cemented my belief that there is something about eating paleo/primal that other ethical diet lifestyles were missing right in front of their eyes.

It helped remove all guilt I had for eating meat that I picked up from certain veg*an acquaintances of mine exuded towards folks not as hard core as they are.

Like "A at Grain Free Diet" I intend to read it again soon.

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Didnt Melissa at HuntGatherLove remove the book from her recommended books on her site. Can't remember the reason. Edit -here is a post about it: http://huntgatherlove.com/node/619

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I believe it mostly had to do with the threatening comments received by fans and enemies of the book alike. If anyone is in a position to critique the book, I believe it would be Melissa, but she took a whole lotta s@!t from both sides for offering both her support and criticisms of the book. – Happy Now Feb 10 2012 at 9:25
Thank you for that link. I wondered if any of the major paleo bloggers had read it. – Kane Augustus Feb 16 2012 at 1:46
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If you read the three-star reviews on it on Amazon, you will find many thoughtful, well-written, fairly balanced, intelligent critiques of it.

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