Blog

6

1

Since October, I've been on the Paleo diet. I strictly ate vegetables, berries, nuts, and proteins (fish, meat, dairy, etc.). I'm 17 year-old girl and have been relatively chunky for most of my teen years, with my weight fluctuating from 155-160 lbs. Since starting the Paleo diet, I've lost absolutely NO weight, and have noticed no change in my body whatsoever.

Six weeks ago, I cut out all fruit from my diet, since I've heard that the fructose can slow down weightloss.

About three weeks ago, I cut out dairy completely and have still noticed no changes. Throughout this, I exercise at least every other day for at least 45min of intervals, cardio, and strength training.

I know weightloss is possible for me, since last year I was able to reach and maintain 141 lbs. when I was a full-time rower and trained 18hrs a week. At that time, I ate nowhere near as healthily as I do now.

I go through a normal amount of stress, as much any college-bound high school student would, and my immediate family are all significantly thinner than me, and in shape. With my genetics, I shouldn't be having any problems with this.

I stand 5'5" and am naturally muscular with medium bone structure. Logically, I should be able to comfortably weigh 135 lbs and maintain it.

Honestly, I've had "cheat days". Around one a month, at most. Christmas, Halloween, Thanksgiving, etc. People my age tend to socially shun you for refusing to eat their sugary gluten-ridden foods. I know, it's ridiculous.

In December and January I tried Intermittent Fasting, fasting for 24hrs once or twice a week for 3 weeks. Still, no results.

My question is: What am I doing wrong? and Why haven't I seen any results?

Others who have posted about the Paleo diet stated either immediate results, or changes within a couple months. So, why have I not seen any results after 5 months of this?

For those of you who may want a see a day of my usual diet, here it is:

On days that I have early morning class:

Morning: Coffee with a Tablespoon of coconut oil, 1scoop of whey protein powder in water.

Afternoon: Some sort of protein (grassfed lamb or 2 eggs or lunch meat) with a lot of vegetables (carrots, squash, zucchini, onions, etc) and some sort of sauce mixture of spicy mustard and soy sauce. (baked vegetables lose their glamor quickly, ya know?)

Snack: Nuts (I try to limit these, but it's usually brazillian nuts or almonds) or leftover vegetables.

Dinner: Some sort of protein and more vegetables.

On days that my classes don't start until later, the only difference is that I eat breakfast (2 eggs and vegetables) and have a smaller lunch.

My portions are probably too large, but, as I understand, regardless of portion sizing, I should have seen some sort of results by now.

Yes, this is an excessively long post. I'm desperate. Any help/advice/opinions are greatly appreciated! :)

flag
I'm having the same trouble. I've added more fat, cut back nuts and am having less protein to see if that changes things. That's what others have been saying in other similar posts. No change so far for me (although I feel great!) I'll be watching what others say on your post for some tips. Good luck. – HippiPaleo Feb 15 2012 at 0:43
6 
Do what is healthy. Do everything that is healthy in every sense, but not if it becomes unhealthy to do so. Mental health matters too. That's my advice. – Stabby Feb 15 2012 at 1:39
6 
i'll say something that has been on my mind to write about but maybe be appropriate here......sometimes when we eat all the correct things we still might not get the expected outcome because while our choice are good.......our mind and thoughts could be undercutting the entire process. Something for you to ponder. Listen to Stabby. Eat right......and worry not. Good things will come if you think thoughts that allow for it. – The Quilt Feb 15 2012 at 6:39
5 
Quit the morning whey drink for a while. It may be whey...sorry...way too insulinogenic. – Erik Feb 15 2012 at 8:07
1 
I agree about the whey - it's dairy. You haven't actually cut all dairy if you're still using this. FWIW, cutting dairy doesn't help me lose weight, but my skin is better without it! – Efaitch Feb 15 2012 at 9:22
show 1 more comment

15 Answers

15


My portions are probably too large, but, as I understand, regardless of portion sizing, I should have seen some sort of results by now.


Then you do not understand (but I understand why you think this way.) Calories still matter. If you think you're overeating then you probably are.

Honestly I'd cut back on quantity and lose the nuts. They are problematic for many trying to lose weight. Try hard boiled eggs instead maybe?

I also think you need to consider that this may be an issue with perception. Not every woman is supposed to be a size 2.

link|flag
Thanks for your advice! Portion sizing is a work in progress for me. And as for my perception, I understand what you mean, and I assure you that my perception comes from a will to simply improve, but not overdo it. – Grace Feb 15 2012 at 2:14
3 
You're at a tough age. I ate nothing but hard boiled eggs the summer before I went to college. I totally understand the desire for self-improvement and there's nothing wrong with it. It's just that it's a long hard life for a woman when she is doing constant battle with her body (ask me how I know.) I think it's great to work on it but don't forget to appreciate it, enjoy it and be grateful for it while you're at it. As long as you balance all of that then you're good to go. Good luck! – Shari Bambino Feb 15 2012 at 3:31
14

I'm reading posts like this regularly on PH. Whilst so many people may say you can eat as much as you like on Paleo, I completely disagree. I think a lot of this stems from the fact that many "Paleo people" were not overweight to begin with - for them, I'm quite sure they really can eat as much as they like and maintain a sensible weight/ body comp.

I was stuck at the same weight for a year, on a strict Paleo diet (no nuts, fruit once or twice a week). It wasn't until I significantly reduced my portion sizes that finally the weight loss resumed. I've lost 7kg since Christmas, so I'm quite certain this was the missing piece of the puzzle for me.

I don't snack and I've literally halved my portion sizes. I don't think you need to count calories, just use smaller plates and bowls (it really works) and don't have seconds. I was really hungry for the first week, but now it's absolutely fine and I can see now I was eating far too much before.

I also IF sporadically, but again, I think this only helps if it reduces your overall intake - not if you just consume the same volume of food after.

link|flag
Thanks for your input! Do you recommend any specific portion sizes that might be unique to the Paleo diet, or do you follow the usual portions that doctors recommend? Thanks! – Grace Feb 15 2012 at 2:05
1 
Congratulation on the 7kg weight loss in 6 weeks - wow that's awesome. Can you give an example of what and how much you would eat/drink in one day? Would really appreciate the perspective. :) – HippiPaleo Feb 15 2012 at 2:31
1 
Thanks HippiPaleo! I generally challenge the quantities in everymeal. I ften have bacon and scrambled eggs for breakfast, I now have 2 rashers and one egg instead of 3 rashers of bacon and 2 (or even three eggs). I often make a big pot of beanless chilli for lunch - I now have two serving spoons full, not three (and then seconds). I think if I got too scientific and started weighing things/ calorie counting it would frustrate me, instead I just challenge every serving size and reduce it. – Suz - Paleo Oz Feb 15 2012 at 2:46
MrsRobinson- That definitely sounds doable, without being overly obsessive, and I will definitely do this. Thank you for the info! – Grace Feb 15 2012 at 4:34
1 
This is a great comment, Suz. There needs to be some distinctions made between peoples goals on paleo. The diet of someone trying to lose weight and an active athlete on paleo could very possibly vary significantly. I don't think this distinction is made clearly or frequently enough. Not only could macros be drastically different but the amount of food intake also. – luckybastard Feb 15 2012 at 14:24
11

Grace, I don't like to argue with people's perceptions of themselves, and you've said you're sure you should be around 135, and maybe you're right. It's hard to know without seeing a picture. So for whatever it's worth, here's my experience: I'm 5'6" and have a 10-pound range that I've wandered around in since losing my extra fat (down from 220), with 158 at the top. When I (briefly) dropped to 145ish, I was thrilled, but my husband wasn't -- he told me I was starting to look sickly. Hard to believe with the current standards, but he was right. My "lean" teenage weight was also 155ish (those few times that I was "lean"), and when I was that weight, I looked great.

If you're at all big-boned and well-muscled -- which it sounds like you are, since you used to row -- you might look awesome at 155. If you really want to lose a few more pounds, yeah, you might have to drop the carbs even more (I stalled at 190 for two years on VLC, and dropped to ZC to lose the rest, but I was deep in my forties when I started.) But I'm still nowhere near "skinny," even though I'm in great health with good muscle tone and not a lot of flab. But for someone with my body style, and maybe yours, to get to 135 would pretty much require starvation and heroics, and maybe drugs.

ETA this afterthought: Last year when your weight was lower, you were also younger, if only by a year. Women's bodies tend to accumulate more fat as the childbearing years go on. I know that 17 is still very young -- I'm not talking about middle-aged spread -- but 16, when you were 15 or so pounds lighter, was still much closer to your age of menarche, whenever that might have been. If this extra fat has accumulated in your hips and thighs, it's not unhealthy, IMO. On the other hand, if you've suddenly got a big belly this year, then maybe your concerns are right.

link|flag
Thanks for your input! – Grace Feb 15 2012 at 4:21
5

It's hard to tell from this, but I think it's a good bet that you are in SuppVersity's Stanley Smith's "imaginary chubby" category. This means you need to stop worrying about your weight in pounds and focus more on your measurements.

link|flag
1 
I understand your concern, and I assure you I'm not mentally exaggerating my body composition in any way. I have never considered myself to be overweight, although I do expect to be more visibly fit with my dedication to my health. As I should have stated in my post, my measurements haven't changed a bit either. Thanks for the advice! – Grace Feb 15 2012 at 2:03
Sorry, I wasn't clear. My point is that the folks who have it "easy" regarding results are typically those who have a lot more to lose. The closer you get, the harder it gets and "weight in pounds" is the best measure of success. I think other folks have been giving you lots of good suggestions. – Beth-WeightMaven Feb 15 2012 at 14:54
Beth makes a good point. Remember that it can be a lot harder to lose weight when you have only 10lbs to where you want to be. – Joy Feb 16 2012 at 21:18
5

Most hard-core, original paleos will tell you to ditch the berries, nuts, and dairy. They would also tell you to maintain a 500 calorie deficit, per day, and start lifting weights and doing short, intensive sprints. Eat a sweet potato, every other day( NOT strict paleo, by the way). This is the standard advice. Let me know if it works for you.

link|flag
Okay, will do. Thank you! – Grace Feb 15 2012 at 4:38
4

I would suggest try eating more fat, and incorporate sprinting. Don't worry about cardio, and concentrate on weight lifting, heavier weights, lower reps.

In my experience, I didn't get anywhere eating Paleo and doing cardio. Cardio for me is really stressful for my body and I've noticed much better results eating High Fats in the form of Coconut Oil, Cream, Egg Yolks, then animal fat and avocados. I try to limit my fruits to Berries only and in the morning. I keep carbs under 50g per day. I also tried fasting 14/10 hours and have seen good results with that. I am going to stick with fasting, and incorporate sprinting after I get more adjusted.

Hope this helps!

link|flag
Thanks for your advice! I used to do regular HIIT 3x a week but didn't notice any changes in my physical composition. Do you recommend any certain type of sprint training? (usually I've done 20 sec on, 10 sec off, x 12). Unfortunately, I don't have any access to weights, so are there any at-home exercises that you've found to have the same results? Thank you! – Grace Feb 15 2012 at 1:41
I understand that you might get frustrated doing HIIT and not seeing results. It's like tearing a piece of paper towel off a roll everyday. After one week, you won't notice any changes. You keep tearing it off, and you don't even start to see changes until you are half-way through the roll. That's very similar to your body. In all honesty, I think you should invest in some dumbbells, like 5lbs, 10lbs, 12lbs, 15lbs. Start doing squats, lunges, pushups, and deadlifts. You could incorporate stairs and even sprinting at your ultimate speed. I didn't know I could run at 8-9 mph until I tried it. – PaleoGirl Feb 15 2012 at 2:42
Also, stick with a program for at least 12 weeks before you switch it up. I really like Jamie Eason Live Fit Trainer. You're supposed to do it in a gym, but I just sub some of the exercises for dumbbells and do it at home. For example, you can do step ups with Dumbbells, squats, lunges, pushups with dumbbell rows..I've been weight training for 6 weeks, and even though the scale hasn't budged, my clothes are feeling loose and I'm starting to see muscle. I think that's more important than losing numbers on a scale. – PaleoGirl Feb 15 2012 at 2:46
That sounds like a good plan, I'll give it a shot. Thank you! – Grace Feb 15 2012 at 4:24
3

  • IF - Most studies on IF have shown little to no body composition improvements in the long term. The benefits people get from leangains and similar programs are likely more the product of calorie and carbohydrate cycling.
  • Keto - Have you tried full keto? Strict <20g carbs/day? It essentially means no vegetables, or if you do eat vegetables, only very low calorie ones (squash, carrots, and onions all have significant carb content).
  • What's your actual body fat %? You may be more muscular than most girls your age and actually have a healthy body fat level. Measuring body fat is tough, but calipers and scales that use BIA can at least give you some sort of range.
  • Calorie counting - I (and most people here) are against calorie counting, since it a) sucks and b) shouldn't be necessary, but you may need to try it. If you cut calories below maintenance and still don't lose weight, then you may want to talk to your doctor about other causes (e.g. hypothyroidism).

There are lots of weight loss methods you can try; the trick is finding something that's maintainable in the long run. You say your portions are probably too large - you can gain weight on any diet, whether it's low-carb or paleo or SAD. I can't comment well on emotional eating (nor do I want to insinuate that you're doing that), but if you find yourself eating too much on a regular basis then perhaps there are bigger things to consider than diet.

You're on the right track by trying out new approaches. Sometimes the process of finding what does work involves discovering everything that doesn't.

link|flag
Thanks for your advice! I will pay more attention to calories, and give keto a try. As for my body fat, I can roughly estimate I'm around 27-29% based off a somewhat recent test. I would love to reach the low 20 percentile range. – Grace Feb 15 2012 at 1:50
2

Here we go...

  1. Shoot for 50 grams of protein for break fast. Water and whey protein DOES NOT COUNT and is not optimal.

  2. Stop working out 45 minutes every other day, limit to high intensity once or twice a week. (Sprints, weights, walking, 10-20 minutes).

  3. Carrots, Zucchini and Squash are all maintenance foods (higher carb veggies), go with green LEAFY veggies (broccoli, brussle sprouts, kale, cabbage, etc.) Add cauliflower, and lettuces. Also, put some grass fed butter/sea salt on those unglamored veggies.

  4. Eat 3 meals, 1 snack if necessary. Don't eat before bed.

  5. Leptin reset is probably necessary if you are down to belly fat being the problem.

  6. SLEEP, and REST are TOP PRIORITY

link|flag
Thank you for the tips! I will try to incorporate these to the best of my ability. How do you advise to get 50g of protein for breakfast? Any favorite meals or recipes? And do you recommend any specific high intensity workouts? – Grace Feb 15 2012 at 1:59
It equates to about 7 eggs, but the key is to shoot for it, not necessarily reach it. Beef has about 7 grams per oz, other meats vary. Get the protein from meat, fish, or eggs, not from whey. – George Brodie Feb 21 2012 at 8:38
1

I can't advise on the exercise because basically, I don't. I walk and run after my kids, and I'm on my feet for my job all day and my family all evening, but other than that, I don't have anything.

That being said, I lose the best when I'm eating plenty of fat, especially coconut oil and avocado. My weight loss stalls when I eat too much fruit and/or nuts. I actually don't think it sounds like you're eating that much food, especially if you're exercising so much. Obviously, I don't know what your portions are.

link|flag
Thanks for your input! I'll try to incorporate more fat into my diet. – Grace Feb 15 2012 at 2:08
1

Try keeping a food journal and log how hungry you are before your meal, then how you feel after you eat. A quick food tip from me is to incorporate leafy greens in a meaty salad full of fat, protein, and fiber. The salad will keep you full for longer and cause your diet to be lower carbed.

With the food log, you might reach a conclusion that the "carby" vegetables like carrots and onions make you hungry quicker. Good Luck.

link|flag
Thanks for your advice! I'll try this out. Do you have any favorite salad recipes? Thanks! – Grace Feb 15 2012 at 2:06
1

I'm in the same boat as you, and have the same body type(I'm 5'6 though) and weight. I'm 19....I have A LOT of questions that may be good for you to look through. Go to my user profile and look through my questions, i have like 40. they should give you some good information

link|flag
you also need A LOT more fat. id suggest dropping the snack and the nuts and adding in a good quality butter and more coconut oil with your meats and veggies – Hoover Feb 15 2012 at 1:31
id also say cut the whey first thing in the morning...whey is still dairy, so maybe cutting that out and eating more eggs or something instead of powder will help – Hoover Feb 15 2012 at 1:55
Thanks for your input! I'll check out the questions and try to add more fat into my diet. – Grace Feb 15 2012 at 2:09
1

  • 10 for Rose. Great answer.

I would eat breakfast every day.

What is the protein at night?

Look for a used rowing machine perhaps.

Sleep early and for 7.5 hours or more per day.

link|flag
1

Skip Breakfast (only black coffee), then work out (strenght training) fastet in the morning, 2 hours later lunch. You´ll get used to the Breakfast skipping after a week or so!

link|flag
are you really telling a 17 yr old child to fast??? – Mallory Feb 16 2012 at 1:15
many Teenagers don´t eat breakfast, it´s not that big o deal I think.. – Severine Feb 16 2012 at 19:03
1

There is evidence that if you over consume protein, your body turns the excess into sugar. How much protein do you eat in a meal? I have read that 25 grams per meal is a relative upper limit. I find that I do better with hunger and fat loss if I limit my carbs, moderate protein, and fill in the rest with enough good fat that I am not going hungry. Most days, I am eating around 70+% fat.

link|flag
1

Cut soy out! It's just as bad as wheat! I have a thyroid condition and notice soy affects me negatively! And never eat gluten again!

link|flag

Your Answer

Not the answer you're looking for? Browse other questions tagged or ask your own question.