I have no idea whether it is a scam or not, and personally I don't really care. What I do care about is that, using Dave's parameters, I found the best coffee ever at a local roastery. I never understood what people were talking about when they said that if you're drinking good coffee, it shouldn't need sugar. It's true! I blend my coffee with a tsp of butter and a tsp of coconut oil. Tried it with more fat, but just couldn't stomach it. I also eat breakfast, so I don't need it to fast. In general, I am pretty skeptical of Dave, and hearing that he takes thyroid hormones and testosterone, which he fails to mention, makes me even more skeptical. I wouldn't buy his coffee, but I'm grateful that he's educated me a bit about coffee in general!

Anyone know of a comparable (but cheaper) coffee I can order online? I've scavenged coffee-selling sites but frankly I am far from a coffee connoisseur, even taking Dave's advice into account. THANKS! :)

I like BP coffee. I am not sure that coffee itself is the best thing for me in my little adrenal hole, but that's another PH topic.

I think the flavor is perfect, a medium roast, it brews nicely in the aeropress, and whether with the butter/mct or with heavy cream it is darn tasty.

FWIW, I like the salted butter in it. I like salt.

I think Dave is likely the real deal - he makes money off his site. But he states everything upfront, from his history to his supplements to his prejudices. Grounding is weird, but it might have something going for it. Who doesn't feel better after sleeping outside on the earth or after walking around barefoot? Mycotoxins? Yeah that's freaky. There's a lot we don't know and finding the balance between stressing about these things versus doing really positive healthy choices for our life - that's the trick.

I am fine with his endeavors. If we were not allowed to make money from the things we were good at or have knowledge about... WTF.

Its a lot cheaper to get it from somewhere else

Sweet Marias seems cool I like it cause they tell you where it was grown, the altitude and whether its wet or dry processed

How to Choose mycotoxin free coffee

I emailed a roaster about which of their 20 green coffee beans were wet processed and they responded that only one of their beans was dry processed... so in this casea majority of high quality coffee beans are going to be mold free, Daves using the mold for marketing to scare you into buying his coffee. Just find out if your source uses wet processing.

I have a friend who is a coffee roaster in northern Wisconsin. I've been drinking his coffee via mail order for years. Haven't lived there for a long time, so I only talk to him a couple times a year. But it's a one man operation, with a peanut roaster on the back porch.

I can't speak to the bulletproof concerns, but I can say that Harry's roasts are awesome, and I love supporting a small sole-proprietor business.

Here's a link: http://www.nwcoffeemills.com/

I like darker coffees so usually go for the french roast. I also get a kick out of the traveler blend, which IIRC, is so named because you can walk around the yard with a cup, and if it gets cold, it still tastes good.

I tried the coffee and I like it. I can see how people would be skeptical of the bulletproof diet and Dave Asprey's general take on nutrition. I think it's important for us all to be skeptical but I see a passionate guy that has a lot to say. He pretty much turned my world upside-down when I first heard him on the Joe Rogan podcast. But I did a lot of research and decided that trying it for myself was the only way to know... I'll say that he has a very informative podcast with many interesting guests!

By the way, I am blogging about it here: http://bulletproofcoffee.wordpress.com/

I cannot help but smile sideways at most of the negative comments levelled at Mr. Asprey's suggestions by those who admittedly have not tried out his formulas and/or suggestions. Armchair critics are a dime a dozen and usually have little by way of their own experiences with which to formulate sound judgement. Live. Learn. Try new things and expand your horizons. Otherwise, it might be preferable to remain silent and put one's efforts toward objective understanding rather than rampant lambasting. Be well, beloved monkeys.

I use my one-cup espresso machine to make my americanos. When I make it bulletproof, I use the steamer to really work the butter into the coffee, plus it makes a nice foam. I understand from a Tibetan source that the film of butter on top of yak butter tea actually works to coat the lips and prevents chapping in high-altitude cold climates. I have to say it's working great for me here in wintery Massachusetts.

I do just fine with my Peets mocha java, I haven't tried the magic beans.

He's dead on regarding salted butter, though, yick. I'm using Danish grassfed unsalted with great results.

In my own experience, my cholesterol jumped when I started consuming bulletproof coffee (66 points! in 1 month!). Other relevant lifestyle changes included beginning calcium-d-glucarate supplementation, a slight decrease in workout intensity, and changing fish oil brand to Green Pastures. I find the bulletproof coffee to be the most likely culprit, though I haven't ruled out calcium d-glucarate or a this being a temporary spike as my body fights inflammation. I will retest to insure accuracy on these numbers, but I would (gasp!) consider keeping an eye on cholesterol for a while with BP Coffee, if you are at all concerned about cholesterol. And of course, perhaps I'm idiosyncratic in my response to BP coffee and these concerns may not apply to you after all.

Wait, so if I put my coffee beans in my magic bullet with some butter then put the buttered grinds on my coffee maker (old school drip) I get a latte???

As an upset I have run out of Bulletproof coffee and replaced it with other expensive Intelligensia and Crop to Cup coffee and I feel the same. And the Intelligensia tastes better.

We've been drinking bullet proof coffee for 3 months now. Having studied Sally Fallon, etc, and having had years of celiac, when a friend turned me on to the Bullet Proof coffee, I immediately tried it. It's delicious and powers you for about 6 to 8 hours without the come down after 45 minutes or so from having put sugar in your coffee. I highly recommend this one. We haven't had any other coffee since we started this.

We buy high altitude organic coffee at the local store and haven't bought anything from his site.

The easiest way to find out if something works is to try it, rather than speculate on a forum. ;-)

I've been doing bulletproof coffee, and tea as well to avoid too much caffeine (green tea + holy basil) for a few months now, gotta say, it's very addictive, and very very good stuff. :)

Kicks me right into ketosis if I drink it 1st thing in the morning and skip breakfast. Has me feeling awesome the whole day.

Recently the Rockerfeller Center Farmer's Market opened up again, and one of the vendors has sweet cream butter from grassfed cows. Totally loving this stuff.

Tried this a couple of times last week. Used regular coffee because the apartment complex we live in offers freshly brewed Starbucks coffee around the clock. I know, quite a perk. We've been living here three years and the coffee pot was scrapped a year or so ago, as it was just collecting dust.

I did 16 ounces of coffee with 1 TBSP of Kerrygold and 1 TBSP coconut oil. I did this three times. I was still hungry an hour or so later.

My MCT oil just arrived...I want to give this another try. When I use the BPC concoction, I want to be able to not eat anything until my lunch meal. If I can get that to happen, I will invest in the Upgraded coffee and a proper brewing mechanism. So, has anyone found that you really do need 2 TBSP of the Kerrygold and 1 TBSP of the MCT in order to ward off hunger? I know the true recipe calls for 2/3rds of a stick of Kerrygold or something like that, but my current goal is weight loss. I don't want to be ingesting additional calories. My current breakfast is 426 calories (approximated by a food logging site).

Any thoughts?

The fresher and less processed your food the better. Coffee, beef, butter, anything. Asprey's set-up does not require anyone to buy his products, it's convenient as he's already done the legwork of tracking down the freshest (if you believe him). I've decided to follow his plan, but have sourced everything out myself. I'm not bothering with MCT oil, just virgin coconut oil. I went with Guatemalen single-source beans from Sweet Maria's. I think they're wet processed, I can't remember if I was able to identify that or not.

Depending on how much volume is lost in roasting, it may be worth it to buy Asprey's product. We'll see.

I hate it. I prefer organo told. have ull heard of it?? http://mycapturepage.com/cp23.php?id=470

Don't use butter. Use Ghee, it's much better and it's like butter concentrate. Properly prepared ghee (or high quality ghee) contains up to 97% of pure and clean butter fat. Of course the best ghee is made from grass feed butter.

You may not get that creamy effect in your coffee after blending it with Ghee, but you will surely get superior product. Ghee is healthier because has no milk proteins (casein) and probably no opioids which make many people dumb (milk, cream and cheese all have opioids).

Opioids is stuff in mammalian milk which makes infants come back for more. That's why many people can't stop drinking heavy cream, even if they are full.

Will this work if I only use coconut oil and no butter in the coffee?

Dave Asprey turned me on to the therapeutic uses of HRV and breathing techniques (although I had already been using HRV to track workout recovery) and I definitely owe him for this. Also, Tim Ferris's new book is whole bunches of fun.

For me the magic of bulletproof coffee is the idea of blending fat into a warm beverage. Others may have suggested it but Dave Asprey really hit it home for me. I blend up a tea + butter + coconut oil concoction ever morning and drink it from a thermos during the day. This makes the macros I'm trying to hit for ketosis/weight loss so much easier. It also saves me me money and time.

Fast. Or eat. That's my opinion. Dumping a bunch of calories in your coffee seems silly. It's not magic. I enjoy clean coffee like many do. Does anyone REALLY enjoy a ton of butter fat in their coffee? Or are they just on some bandwagon that justifies their desire to eat when they are supposed to be fasting (because fasting is what they say they are trying to do)?

Here is Dave Asprey's response to claims that his coffee is simply the Guatemalan coffee from Portland Roasters (which doesn't seem to carry the Guatemalan coffee anymore anyway). I wish he gave more detail about his "quality control steps" or about his certainty that "coffee production problems are a major health concern," but anyway, here's what he writes, which you can find here: http://www.marksdailyapple.com/forum/thread66674.html

"Miss Understood, you're kind of putting words in my mouth. You can get 80% reliability that your coffee is going to make you feel good if you follow the "high grade" algorithm I published on the site. That works because washed coffee is FAR superior to natural process, but Upgraded Coffee is neither - it is entirely unfermented, and the process I designed to create it has a bunch of other quality control steps involved based on the research I did. Upgraded Coffee gives you 100% reliability and costs $2/bag more than Starbucks.

"I am certain that coffee production problems are a major cause of health problems (and performance problems) in people who drink most coffee. I dream of a world where I can get clean coffee everywhere.

"So of course I went to the top ranked roaster to roast my beans. Guatemala is a big coffee producer and Portland has some Guatemalan beans too that will look similar (they are both from Guatemala after all) , but the only place you can get Upgraded Coffee (which is lab tested too btw!) is from me. Plus, you're supporting a member of the community who has never made a cent from selling coffee - everything I've made so far has gone into paying for a team and for more research and writing on the site. It's not overpriced for what it is, and it's unique."

its a scam, and anyone who buys it is a tool

One of the only free documents I could find on toxins in coffee:

Ochratoxin A in Roasted Coffee from French Supermarkets and Transfer in Coffee Beverages: Comparison of Analysis Methods:

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3153291/

"Thus, the intake of a high coffee consumer who drinks 640 mL of coffee (1 bowl of 300 mL at breakfast; 1 cup of 85 mL at 10 o’clock; 1 cup after lunch; 1 cup in the afternoon; 1 cup after dinner) will reach 530 ng. For a human weighing 60 kg, this intake via coffee corresponds to half of the tolerable daily intake of OTA established by JECFA (joint expert committee of Food and Additives) [43]. This intake of 530 ng is six times higher than the virtual safety dose (VSD) (1.5 ng/kg bw/day) established on the kidney tumors [44]! If we make the same calculation using the average OTA content (1.5 µg/kg) found in the coffee, the amount of OTA in a bowl is 31 ng; and in a cup of expresso 8.8 ng. Thus a heavy consumer will have a daily intake of 66.2 ng/day equivalent to 1.1 ng/kg bw/day, which is close to the VSD. It should be kept in mind that excessive coffee consumption (more than three cups a day) was implicated in upper tract transitional cell carcinoma and bladder cancer [45,46]. The risk is higher for heavy coffee drinkers carrying the genotype GSTP1 105–104 val. [47] and can be explained by the fact that glutathione conjugation is involved in the biotransformation of OTA into genotoxic and carcinogenic products [48,49,50] leading to DNA adducts [51,52]. As the percentage of OTA passing through the beverage depends on the origin and the roasting process of coffee, the intake evaluation should be done on the amount of OTA found in the beverage. A simple method to evaluate the amount of OTA in coffee could be to extract OTA with hot water. This extract could then be directly used on the IAC column. "

The [45] and [46] references in the above study led to these documents:

Alcohol, coffee, and bladder cancer risk: ... [Eur J Cancer Prev. 2009] - PubMed - NCBI - http://1.usa.gov/13nx2Of

Coffee consumption and bladder cancer ... [Cancer Causes Control. 2000] - PubMed - NCBI - http://1.usa.gov/13nxDzh

Basically, you are safe if you drink under 10 cups a day. Now all this said, bulletproof style coffee is great in my opinion. The toxin in coffee thing is a real deal. These people (in Europe) are testing for some types and have set "content" limits already. So if Dave is doing his own testing, good on him. Everybody else is unconcerned in America I guess?

I understand Bulletproof coffee to be high-quality coffee + grassfed butter + coconut oil. I tried this today. I can say that it did help in suppressing my very healthy appetite, but mostly because it made me feel rather sick for most of the day.

Regarding the extra energy and clarity of mind, I will say this: I was sick as a dog yesterday with a nasty flu + fever. This morning I decided to have Bulletproof coffee and come to work. I completely forgot about the claims regarding extra energy and clarity. Well, throughout the morning I thought to myself, SEVERAL times: "WOW i haven't felt this sharp in at least 10 years". Was it the extra sleep I got yesterday???? Could be... or it could be the coffee.

Long story short.... I don't think BP coffee requires the marketed Upgraded coffee. Any high quality coffee is fine. In my experience, it does help control hunger via messing up your stomach, and yes it does help with energy levels and brain activity in general.

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1mantruthsquad Why do you believe the Portaland Roasting company-Heuhuetenango Guatemalan coffee is the bulletproof coffee? I went to their website and they have a big photo of dry roasting coffee in the sun. Isn't this exactly what he is saying causes the mold?

I was searching for the bulletproof coffee farm in Guatemala for about when I found your comment. I want to identify the farm.

Confused

Wow. For a way of eating that supposedly provides you with all the energy you could ever need, you paleo peeps are WAY dependent on your coffee, aren't you? This thread is like meth-heads discussing different cooking techniques...lol...