great topic. I was never full-fledged veg or vegan, but i did eat a lot of what they eat. One poster is indeed correct in saying that although the practices of groks and vegheads are totally different, a lot of the mentality possibly required to get into these worlds is very similar. Also, i think as we get older, the vegheads reduce in number. Simply because it is so terribly unhealthy and it takes its toll on the body. I am currently "working on" an almost-vegan veg friend. She loves animals. I tell her that i too love animals, i have a dog, i work at a pasture-based farm every other week, etc. I tell her that eating meat and loving it/thriving on it is indeed a very high form of respect for those animals! Of course, i regale her with the health-promoting properties of the grok lifestyle, too. In fact, she just had surgery to remove one of her thyroid glands. Suspected cancer. Unbelievable. -ben