Safe Starch

Safe Starch

Safe Starch Questions

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by 103 · about 9 hours ago

Hi. Could someone clarify for me why starches like sweet potatoes and yams are considered "safe" when others are not?

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Pat_13 0 · May 23, 2013 at 7:11 PM

Because they contain low levels of the anti-nutrients (prolamines, lectins, etc) that are so common in grains which cause gut problems and inflammation. Sweet potatoes, yams, white rice, all have little to no anti-nutrients and are thus "safe" --... (more)

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by 103 · about 9 hours ago

Hi How can I tell whether it would be safe to reintroduce rice into my diet? When I began Paleo I assumed it was off limits but some recent internet surfing produced results that some believe it to be a safe starch? What can I look for to see if... (more)

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Janknitz 0 · May 23, 2013 at 7:20 PM

Some people believe that so-called "safe starches" are OK and even desirable. The term "safe starches" was coined by the Jaminets, authors of the Perfect Health Diet (PHD). It seems to work for certain people, especially those who have normal... (more)

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by 40 · about 9 hours ago

Hi everyone, I've got a few questions about substituting some non-starchy for starchy vegetables. Background 3000 calorie diet split 20%/25%/55% carbs/protein/fat (PUFA < 5%, 2:1 O6:O3) Fairly active with 3x pw weight training and 2x pw... (more)

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greymouser 0 · March 14, 2013 at 11:24 AM

There really isn't a question in your question ... you sort of just talked about maybe trying to get more tuber/root vegetables. Are you just looking for encouragement? If you're asking if you should eat more than zero, then personally, I think... (more)

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by 78422 · about 9 hours ago

So I consider myself a paleo purist- I don't even eat apples due to the sugar content. I was surprised seeing Paul jaminet recommend white rice and sweet potatoes on his " perfect health diet" I'd love to add these foods in my diet, but it goes.... (more)

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Paul_Jaminet 0 · January 07, 2013 at 1:22 PM

A few points: Glucose is a nutrient. Like all nutrients you can get it in excess, but some is better than none. Starch which provides glucose and resistant starch (a highly beneficial fiber) is generally healthier than sugar which provides... (more)

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by 912 · about 9 hours ago

I just ate my first Japanese sweet potato. It was by far the best starch I've ever roasted. Maybe it was the high quality ghee I got today or the coconut oil. But this sweet potato was better than any yam or white sweet potato I've ever eaten. ... (more)

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jake_16 0 · January 06, 2013 at 5:08 AM

they're frigging awesome. i parboil or steam, then saute until the sugar comes out. pretty much my go-to starch at this point.

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by 224 · about 9 hours ago

What are some of your favorite sources of carbohydrate and why? How does a starchy tuber like sweet potato compare to a root vegetable high in sugar like carrot? Can a legume like green peas be used as a safe starch if tolerated, how would this... (more)

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Matt_11 0 · November 25, 2012 at 6:58 PM

I like the whole safe starch concept less and less. Evolutionarily, humans have been eating root and tubers (very starchy food items) for millions of years. Despite being high in carbohydrate, they are completely paleo in the broadest sense. The... (more)

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by 260 · about 9 hours ago

I know a good amount of paleo people accept white rice as a safe starch because it is purely that, a starch. What about cream of rice? I got it from the store and the only ingredient is granulated rice, so just from that it seems like it is fine.... (more)

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MarkES 0 · November 24, 2012 at 5:01 PM

The Jaminet's (who popularized the term safe starch) seem ok with it as an option: http://perfecthealthdiet.com/2011/02/around-the-web : (7) Another Perfect Health breakfast idea: Emily suggests cream of rice with cream, butter, and apricot... (more)

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by 30 · about 9 hours ago

Is jicama (yambean) a good starch to be eating on a paleo diet? It's slightly sweet, high in vitamin c and in fiber. It's excellent in salads.

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PhysiqueRescue 0 · October 03, 2012 at 1:11 PM

I've used it occasionally in salads and some other things. It's not really bad for you, but there are things that can give you more benefit. If jicama is the worst thing you are eating, then you are in good shape. Matt PhysiqueRescue.com (more)

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by 224 · about 9 hours ago

If you have to choose one vegetable to eat in order to satisfy carb requirements, what would it be based on toxicity? Sweet potatoes, yams, and carrots all seem like good options, I am personally leaning towards carrots because they're my... (more)

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borofergie 0 · September 30, 2012 at 6:07 PM

I don't understand why you would restrict yourself to a single vegetable. To get the maximum nurtitional benefit, and to prevent overexposure to toxins that might occur in single vegetable, you're much better off eating a wide variety of foods.... (more)

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by 173 · about 9 hours ago

I've been replacing my usual carb sources with sweet potatoes and chestnuts lately, and thought maybe it'd be good to add some white rice in as well, especially since I'm running. I know it's sort of a safe starch. Anyone can share their... (more)

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CD 0 · September 16, 2012 at 2:19 PM

If you want rice, cook it in bone broth rather than water. That adds tons of nutrients to an otherwise empty food

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by 1467 · about 9 hours ago

Forgive me if this is a repost but I've searched to make sure it's not been asked before. http://jasonferruggia.com/nutritional-knowledge-bombs-with-nate-miyaki/ (more)

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foreveryoung 0 · August 03, 2012 at 7:00 PM

Nate Miyaki is great. What his philosophy is, is that if you're obese and sedentary, than a paleo diet with fruits and nonstarchy vegetables should be your template. But, if you're fit and active, than a "Chinese Rice Farmer" should be your... (more)

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by 15400 · about 9 hours ago

I am currently trying RAW Paleo. I eat all my vegetables raw, occasionally raw sashimi, but I also have some cooked meat as well. I felt like I needed some starch because eating raw cucumbers and raw carrots does not fill me up. So I have been... (more)

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JoeB 0 · October 03, 2012 at 12:58 PM

Jicama (a tuber) is excellent raw, and if you really want to wake up your taste buds squeeze some lime juice on it and add a little salt and chili powder!

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by 384 · about 9 hours ago

As far as I am aware both of them are mostly glucose that is quickly metabolized. Why is once safe and the other bad? EDIT: The best answer I've seen is a difference in the corresponding proteins, the simplicity of the glucose molecules, and the... (more)

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Varelse 0 · July 05, 2012 at 6:18 AM

I'm not sure I'd call one "safe" and the other "bad," but between the two, rice is preferred. Wheat contains gluten, a protein that many are allergic/sensitive to, and rice does not. Also, white rice contains much less phytic acid and fewer... (more)

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by 30 · about 9 hours ago

So I thought Paleo was all about staying away from ALL breads, legumes, processed food, and sugars (except in small amounts of fruit)? So why is it that when I Google Paleo recipes it never fails that something with these ingredients always pops... (more)

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CoachCanadan 0 · April 26, 2012 at 6:45 PM

Well first off, welcome! Second off, no, organic bread is still bread, still contains anti-nutrients, and is still on the no-no list. There are gray areas in this world, and the longer you're here, the more gray areas you'll find. But anything... (more)

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by 1363 · about 9 hours ago

Anyone know a good comprehensive list of safe starches? If not I thought we could make one. We could sort it by level of "Safeness" I.E. some consider white rice safe, others not so much. And we could sort for price. Maybe 3 Categories - "Almost... (more)

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jesuisjuba___paleorepublic_com 0 · April 13, 2012 at 4:15 PM

This could really be all over the place as not one sock fits all and everyone's needs/goals are different. Many online sites have lists available, I like what's on Balanced Bites via @Violets post. Personally I dig yuca, plantains, banana, tubers,... (more)

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by 427 · about 9 hours ago

Well, my night is ruined. For some reason this supposed "safe-starch" doesn't sit well with me at at all. This is like the 3rd time I've experimented with one of these too, so it's not like the GI distress is some fluke. Every other time... (more)

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MeepsIsWellfed 0 · April 01, 2012 at 2:59 AM

I feel your pain. Well, I mean, I have felt it. Stopped eating spaghetti and butternut squash as they f me all up. Gassy, bloated happen quickly, but the worst for me is the wicked rrhea that happens the next day. Feels like I'm trying to poop... (more)

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by 35 · about 9 hours ago

See: Richard Nikoley, Kurt Harris, Don Matesz. All have increased their carb intake and subsequently have dropped off the face of the earth, blog-wise. Paul Jaminet seems very prolific at 20% carbs from safe starch. Is it the exact macro nutrient... (more)

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Alex 0 · March 29, 2012 at 2:11 AM

OTOH, carb-munching Carbsane is far more prolific than VLC ItsTheWooo.

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by 15003 · about 9 hours ago

What: The Paleo Summit (see also this post) Who: Nora Gedgaudas ??? Author, Primal Body-Primal Mind Topic: Safe Starches: To Eat or Not to Eat? Safe starches have received their fair share of attention ??? and no shortage of controversy ??? in... (more)

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Bread_Eating_Beelzebub 0 · February 29, 2012 at 9:29 PM

OK I wasn't going to do this hackathon because I have ADD and can't listen through any of them, but I managed Nora's because it's so wrong that my brain was able to somehow focus. That's why wrongess is so fun. IMHO she is probably more insidious... (more)

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by 8933 · about 9 hours ago

I've been looking for good starchy carbohydrates that don't spike insulin, since fruit seems to make me moody. I thought pumpkin might be a good idea, but it's not starchy at all (5 grams of carbs in 100g of pumpkin, and I'm not prepared to eat... (more)

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Rogue_Nutritionist 0 · January 22, 2012 at 4:31 PM

Paul Jaminet talks here about starches as part of a meal having lower GI because of the other foods eaten (fats, fiber, etc.) http://perfecthealthdiet.com/?p=4937

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by 8858 · about 10 hours ago

It's a false dichotomy, of course. Using PubMed abstracts to search for the "optimal" diet is like searching for a needle in a haystack with a magnifying glass. That said, the other side of the coin is to use the Kitavans or the Inuit--populations... (more)

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Rose 0 · December 15, 2011 at 9:15 PM

Nice question! Research (both clinical and anthropological) plus the anecdotes of others make a useful starting point for personal experimentation, and that's about all you can ask for. Our lifetimes are limited and the combinations of variables... (more)

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by 11254 · about 10 hours ago

I bought some tapioca flour to thicken stuff with, but I fear I shall have to discontinue these 'safe starch' experiments; it is clearly making me sick. I also had a brief attack of nausea after eating some rice a while ago. Sugars don't seem to... (more)

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Bill1102inf 0 · December 12, 2011 at 5:40 PM

There is 0% possibility that you lack the enzyme to break down tapioca starch. Try eating a white or sweet potato and see what happens. 99.99999% that nothing negative will happen. Your 'tapioca flour' probably has some industrial waste product... (more)

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by 943 · about 10 hours ago

So Paul Jaminet makes the claim in PHD that Candida Albicans, among other fungal infections, can actually feed on ketones as they are water soluble. This pretty much goes against the mainstream school of thought that blood glucose levels should... (more)

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Bill_4 0 · December 06, 2011 at 4:36 AM

All I can say is thanks to Paul Jaminet, my fungal infection is gone or dormant. The addition of starch/glucose was such a huge health turnaround for me. Dandruff gone, dermatitis gone, IBS gone. I only got dandruff when going VLC.

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by 333 · about 10 hours ago

Yams and sweet potatos, and potatos for some, are popular as a healthy carb source (ie peri-workout carb consumption). Carrots are fairly high in carb count compared to leafy veggies, and are sweet when cooked, why do we not see carrots... (more)

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Adriana 0 · November 09, 2011 at 1:07 PM

The carbs in carrots are mostly sugar. Sweet potatoes have sugar and starch Sugars - carrots 5.2 gr / 1 cup, sweet potatoes 13.0 Starch -carrots .2 gr/ 1 cup, sweet potato 14 I am scratching my head, Nutrition Data shows NO STARCH in cooked... (more)

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by 11683 · about 10 hours ago

Hi, I'm trying to heal my IBS and read on here that it may be best to avoid nuts. Then one night last week I ate around a half cup of almond butter and was ridiculously bloated for days afterwards, which effectively drove the point home that you... (more)

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Rogue_Nutritionist 0 · October 28, 2011 at 3:48 AM

Coconut butter does have a high fiber content, and definitely could irritate your bowel. Nice to introduce one food at a time so you'll be sure what causes flare ups in the future. For now, you may want to consider taking the coconut butter and... (more)

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by 8858 · about 10 hours ago

I was reading the Jimmmy Moore post on "safe starches" [http://livinlavidalowcarb.com/blog/is-there-any-such-thing-as-safe-starches-on-a-low-carb-diet/11809] and noticed a comment from someone named Anthony C. who questioned the term "metabolic... (more)

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Atkins_witha_loincloth 0 · October 08, 2011 at 7:29 PM

I think there is not a single, exact answer to this question, as to EXACT mechanism and WHEN this occurs. But I think there is alot of good info out there pointing to the fact that it does occur and that as far as anyone knows, at least some of... (more)

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