Safe Starch

Safe Starch

Safe Starch Questions

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by 78422 · about 6 hours ago

Has anyone here lost more than 50lbs while averaging 200+gm of carbohydrate a day? For all I am glad that Paleo has embraced starch for those who need it I'm wondering if that hasn't skewed people's results.

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shelley_1 0 · October 26, 2012 at 2:04 AM

I can lose weight on carbs but its really really hard..I am hungry alot, hot flashes, cranky..not pretty at all but I did lose some that way, gained some back and then went Paleo about a year ago and lost another 30plus with ease..around 60g of... (more)

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by 25 · about 7 hours ago

So, I've recently started working out and want to add a bit of carb into my diet to see how it effects my muscle growth / recovery. I'm reading a lot of 50g-100g being the sweet spot and want to try it and adjust from there. My question is if... (more)

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AxialGentleman 0 · July 21, 2013 at 2:24 AM

Yes, you need to count the carbs in broccoli if you want a really accurate picture of your carb intake. There are a few grams of digestible carbohydrate, even after subtracting out the fiber, and it adds to your total. If you want to use a tool... (more)

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by 103 · about 7 hours ago

Hi How can I tell whether it would be safe to reintroduce rice into my diet? When I began Paleo I assumed it was off limits but some recent internet surfing produced results that some believe it to be a safe starch? What can I look for to see if... (more)

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Janknitz 0 · May 23, 2013 at 7:20 PM

Some people believe that so-called "safe starches" are OK and even desirable. The term "safe starches" was coined by the Jaminets, authors of the Perfect Health Diet (PHD). It seems to work for certain people, especially those who have normal... (more)

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by 40 · about 7 hours ago

Hi everyone, I've got a few questions about substituting some non-starchy for starchy vegetables. Background 3000 calorie diet split 20%/25%/55% carbs/protein/fat (PUFA < 5%, 2:1 O6:O3) Fairly active with 3x pw weight training and 2x pw... (more)

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greymouser 0 · March 14, 2013 at 11:24 AM

There really isn't a question in your question ... you sort of just talked about maybe trying to get more tuber/root vegetables. Are you just looking for encouragement? If you're asking if you should eat more than zero, then personally, I think... (more)

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by 912 · about 7 hours ago

I just ate my first Japanese sweet potato. It was by far the best starch I've ever roasted. Maybe it was the high quality ghee I got today or the coconut oil. But this sweet potato was better than any yam or white sweet potato I've ever eaten. ... (more)

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jake_16 0 · January 06, 2013 at 5:08 AM

they're frigging awesome. i parboil or steam, then saute until the sugar comes out. pretty much my go-to starch at this point.

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by 3979 · about 7 hours ago

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nixtamalization -Increases mineral content -removes hull -removes mycotoxins -breaks down protein into more bioavailable form Assuming it's organic and non-gmo, do you think this could be considered a safe starch?... (more)

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Michelle_22 0 · January 01, 2013 at 10:44 PM

I eat nixtamalized corn as a "safe starch," more than white rice, but not more than potatoes. I'm gluten intolerant and have some problems with a few other gluten-free grains, but corn has never been a problem for me. I live in Texas, and eating... (more)

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by 1772 · about 7 hours ago

Are potatoes an acceptable or a "safe" starch? Straight forward question. Thanks!

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Matt_11 0 · December 29, 2012 at 4:22 PM

Acceptable, not just a safe starch. Humans, as a species, have been eating roots and tubers for quite a while.

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by 260 · about 8 hours ago

I know a good amount of paleo people accept white rice as a safe starch because it is purely that, a starch. What about cream of rice? I got it from the store and the only ingredient is granulated rice, so just from that it seems like it is fine.... (more)

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MarkES 0 · November 24, 2012 at 5:01 PM

The Jaminet's (who popularized the term safe starch) seem ok with it as an option: http://perfecthealthdiet.com/2011/02/around-the-web : (7) Another Perfect Health breakfast idea: Emily suggests cream of rice with cream, butter, and apricot... (more)

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by 30 · about 8 hours ago

Is jicama (yambean) a good starch to be eating on a paleo diet? It's slightly sweet, high in vitamin c and in fiber. It's excellent in salads.

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PhysiqueRescue 0 · October 03, 2012 at 1:11 PM

I've used it occasionally in salads and some other things. It's not really bad for you, but there are things that can give you more benefit. If jicama is the worst thing you are eating, then you are in good shape. Matt PhysiqueRescue.com (more)

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by 224 · about 8 hours ago

If you have to choose one vegetable to eat in order to satisfy carb requirements, what would it be based on toxicity? Sweet potatoes, yams, and carrots all seem like good options, I am personally leaning towards carrots because they're my... (more)

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borofergie 0 · September 30, 2012 at 6:07 PM

I don't understand why you would restrict yourself to a single vegetable. To get the maximum nurtitional benefit, and to prevent overexposure to toxins that might occur in single vegetable, you're much better off eating a wide variety of foods.... (more)

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by 224 · about 8 hours ago

Hi all I am looking for opinions on what would be the best vegetables for me to eat given my situation. I do not enjoy eating massive quantities of vegetables, i.e. cups of spinach, broccoli, etc., yet am still looking to get an adequate amount... (more)

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KA24 0 · September 29, 2012 at 5:40 PM

Butternut squash is amazing. Really been on a kick of it lately.

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by 173 · about 8 hours ago

So in an effort to gain weight while running 30+ miles/week and using weights at the gym, I'm adding more carbs to my diet and the easiest/cheapest way to do this, for me at least, is to eat white rice. I'm Asian so it's not hard to find white... (more)

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Kimmie 0 · September 22, 2012 at 3:50 PM

My favorite way is to cook rice is in broth, to make it more nutrient dense. Then I toss it with lime juice, salt and pepper and mix in a full bunch of minced cilantro. Pile meat, avocado and salsa on top of the rice, with maybe a little cheese... (more)

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by 173 · about 8 hours ago

I've been replacing my usual carb sources with sweet potatoes and chestnuts lately, and thought maybe it'd be good to add some white rice in as well, especially since I'm running. I know it's sort of a safe starch. Anyone can share their... (more)

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CD 0 · September 16, 2012 at 2:19 PM

If you want rice, cook it in bone broth rather than water. That adds tons of nutrients to an otherwise empty food

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by 319 · about 8 hours ago

I realize this has been discussed before but I just saw this article of the same title on Chris Kresser's feed. With the safe-starch debate at AHS it occured to me, what if all the demonization and fear mongering over fruit and carbs is actually... (more)

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Eugene_K 0 · August 13, 2012 at 7:03 AM

Nocebo effect is very paleo. Some Polynesian tribes have taboo on particular food. I heard there is a documented case when tribesman ate food that was taboo for him by mistake and died shortly after he found this out! Stress messes up digestion,... (more)

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by 15400 · about 8 hours ago

I am currently trying RAW Paleo. I eat all my vegetables raw, occasionally raw sashimi, but I also have some cooked meat as well. I felt like I needed some starch because eating raw cucumbers and raw carrots does not fill me up. So I have been... (more)

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JoeB 0 · October 03, 2012 at 12:58 PM

Jicama (a tuber) is excellent raw, and if you really want to wake up your taste buds squeeze some lime juice on it and add a little salt and chili powder!

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by 384 · about 8 hours ago

As far as I am aware both of them are mostly glucose that is quickly metabolized. Why is once safe and the other bad? EDIT: The best answer I've seen is a difference in the corresponding proteins, the simplicity of the glucose molecules, and the... (more)

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Varelse 0 · July 05, 2012 at 6:18 AM

I'm not sure I'd call one "safe" and the other "bad," but between the two, rice is preferred. Wheat contains gluten, a protein that many are allergic/sensitive to, and rice does not. Also, white rice contains much less phytic acid and fewer... (more)

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by 319 · about 8 hours ago

Jimmy Moore just posted his blood sugar results from a week of introducing sweet potato into his diet: http://livinlavidalowcarb.com/blog/jimmy-moores-n1-experiments-safe-starch-sweet-potato/13976 What are your thoughts on his methodology and... (more)

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paleohacks 0 · April 16, 2012 at 5:40 AM

Firstly I want a 30 day trial. It takes time to adapt to any diet. Secondly, I want to see him drastically reduce his fat if he's gonna eat starchy. Thirdly, I want some green veggies on the plate too though not a lot. Fourthly, I want real... (more)

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by 1363 · about 8 hours ago

Anyone know a good comprehensive list of safe starches? If not I thought we could make one. We could sort it by level of "Safeness" I.E. some consider white rice safe, others not so much. And we could sort for price. Maybe 3 Categories - "Almost... (more)

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jesuisjuba___paleorepublic_com 0 · April 13, 2012 at 4:15 PM

This could really be all over the place as not one sock fits all and everyone's needs/goals are different. Many online sites have lists available, I like what's on Balanced Bites via @Violets post. Personally I dig yuca, plantains, banana, tubers,... (more)

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by 427 · about 8 hours ago

Well, my night is ruined. For some reason this supposed "safe-starch" doesn't sit well with me at at all. This is like the 3rd time I've experimented with one of these too, so it's not like the GI distress is some fluke. Every other time... (more)

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MeepsIsWellfed 0 · April 01, 2012 at 2:59 AM

I feel your pain. Well, I mean, I have felt it. Stopped eating spaghetti and butternut squash as they f me all up. Gassy, bloated happen quickly, but the worst for me is the wicked rrhea that happens the next day. Feels like I'm trying to poop... (more)

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by 8933 · about 8 hours ago

I've been looking for good starchy carbohydrates that don't spike insulin, since fruit seems to make me moody. I thought pumpkin might be a good idea, but it's not starchy at all (5 grams of carbs in 100g of pumpkin, and I'm not prepared to eat... (more)

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Rogue_Nutritionist 0 · January 22, 2012 at 4:31 PM

Paul Jaminet talks here about starches as part of a meal having lower GI because of the other foods eaten (fats, fiber, etc.) http://perfecthealthdiet.com/?p=4937

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by 943 · about 8 hours ago

So Paul Jaminet makes the claim in PHD that Candida Albicans, among other fungal infections, can actually feed on ketones as they are water soluble. This pretty much goes against the mainstream school of thought that blood glucose levels should... (more)

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Bill_4 0 · December 06, 2011 at 4:36 AM

All I can say is thanks to Paul Jaminet, my fungal infection is gone or dormant. The addition of starch/glucose was such a huge health turnaround for me. Dandruff gone, dermatitis gone, IBS gone. I only got dandruff when going VLC.

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by 333 · about 8 hours ago

Yams and sweet potatos, and potatos for some, are popular as a healthy carb source (ie peri-workout carb consumption). Carrots are fairly high in carb count compared to leafy veggies, and are sweet when cooked, why do we not see carrots... (more)

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Adriana 0 · November 09, 2011 at 1:07 PM

The carbs in carrots are mostly sugar. Sweet potatoes have sugar and starch Sugars - carrots 5.2 gr / 1 cup, sweet potatoes 13.0 Starch -carrots .2 gr/ 1 cup, sweet potato 14 I am scratching my head, Nutrition Data shows NO STARCH in cooked... (more)

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by 8858 · about 8 hours ago

I was reading the Jimmmy Moore post on "safe starches" [http://livinlavidalowcarb.com/blog/is-there-any-such-thing-as-safe-starches-on-a-low-carb-diet/11809] and noticed a comment from someone named Anthony C. who questioned the term "metabolic... (more)

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Atkins_witha_loincloth 0 · October 08, 2011 at 7:29 PM

I think there is not a single, exact answer to this question, as to EXACT mechanism and WHEN this occurs. But I think there is alot of good info out there pointing to the fact that it does occur and that as far as anyone knows, at least some of... (more)

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by 18671 · about 8 hours ago

Is dietary carbohydrate even necessary at all? In the recent past, this question wouldn't even be asked. Knowing that the body can manufacture its own glucose via gluconeogenesis, dietary carbohydrate has long been considered non-essential. ... (more)

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Bread_Eating_Beelzebub 0 · October 06, 2011 at 6:47 PM

I think a huge issue here is that many of these people who are saying that glucose deficiency contributed to a fungal infection are self-diagnosing their fungal infections. I'm not saying they do not have fungal infections, but I'm concerned that... (more)

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by 16131 · about 8 hours ago

Safe Starches: Kurt Harris says this: Paul Jaminet says this: and NOW Ron Rosedale says this: and this:and this: and this: and this and this:. My head is truly spinning about this. I am confused. I know what works for me personally, but I... (more)

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Travis_Culp 0 · October 05, 2011 at 1:00 AM

So he thinks that nearly everyone has diabetes and that glucose is always a glycating poison. OK, so why does the body still force (mostly via the metabolically costly, and one might argue toxic, process of gluconeogenesis) a blood glucose level... (more)

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