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Unusually high salt intake

by 3886 · August 03, 2014 at 11:11 PM

I mean, VERY high. I'll eat 2 ounces of anchovies along with some other fish and avocado and veggies with another heaping teaspoon of salt. Meal after meal. I just feel great when I have a lot of salt, especially mentally. If I don't, I feel irritable, foggy, groggy, etc. With it I feel clear, calm, centered.

I'll eat 200% DV of sodium for every meal, 2 or 3x a day. What do you think this means about my body?

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4338 · July 31, 2014 at 04:17 AM

"I am anemic and most likely magnesium deficient..."

My money's on a Magnesium deficiency as the primary culprit.

esp as you wrote previously; "I also did Dead Sea salt baths, which definitely replenish magnesium, and that temporarily reduced salt cravings, but after a few baths, it stopped having an effect on salt cravings (still was nice though)"

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-4 · July 31, 2014 at 12:22 AM

The first question I would ask would be: What's your potassium intake? Go on a binge of fruit juices to increase your potassium and see if something changes. I see somebody else asked that question, and when I click 'show' to see your answer in a comment, I don't see anything. What did you answer?

To the fruit juices I would also add milk, to have a high intake of both potassium and calcium. Maybe you need more alkaline minerals.

I would drop the fancy salts. They often come with a lot of unnecessary minerals/heavy metals/contaminants/excess iron. Consume the simplest salt you can find for a while and see what happens, like the non-iodized morton canning and pickling salt.

Excretion of sodium is regulated by hormones. If you're not afraid of pregnenolone, I would use it for a week to see if it restores some degree of hormonal balance. Life Extension Pregnenolone 100 mg is one that used for a while. If you're going to use another brand make sure it doesn't have bad additives.

Do you recall when the cravings started? Was that shortly after a change in diet, supplements, or activity?

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0 · July 30, 2014 at 10:12 PM

If you want to get to the bottom of this, get your doctors to run some blood tests.

...& post up the findings, they could be interesting.

as another commenter mentioned earlier (last year)...get your electrolytes tested, liver function tests & anything else the Docs recommend

Edit: some 'electrolyte' tests are not that comprehensive. really you need,

Electrolytes: Sodium, Potassium, Chloride, Bicarbonate.

Minerals: Calcium, Magnesium, Phosphate, Potassium.

Liver Function Tests.

Renal/Kidney Function Tests.

I expect there are others as well...

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180 · July 30, 2014 at 04:53 PM

What do you want to hear? It seems like you're here asking this question looking for an answer like: "OMG, you're so cool! I wish I could eat 50 pounds of salt a day too! OMG, when I grow up I want to be like youuuuu!!!"

Look man, if you want to eat a bucket of salt everyday that's your call, but it's a really stupid idea. It doesn't say much about your body other than you like salty food. There's nothing else to say.

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0 · July 30, 2014 at 09:43 AM

I seem to have the opposite problem low sodium intake but oddly enough I don't get any symptoms and feel fine, should I worry about low sodium intake I don't use salt of any kind and eat lots of vegetables. Perhaps I should eat more olives.

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3886 · July 27, 2014 at 06:50 PM

Invalid comparison. You can live without oreos. You can't live without salt. If you're going to insist that it's just a taste thing, this conversation is over. Salt makes my body feel completely different (better). It affects my sleep patterns, my mood, mental clarity, etc... all the things *electrolytes* should do.

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3886 · July 27, 2014 at 06:03 PM

You can't compare salt to oreos. Oreos do not fulfil vital life processes in our body. It's more than just taste. I've tried going weeks cutting down on salt, and it just sucks. I feel lethargic and out of it, until I restock on salt again.

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3886 · July 26, 2014 at 10:28 PM

Update: I just did some recalculations, and it turns out I eat TWELVE TIMES the recommended DV of sodium/salt per day. And it's showing no sign of stopping. It's really weird, and a little scary. I still need help on this. Doctors don't know what to make of it.

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225 · July 20, 2014 at 03:36 PM

On other possibilities:

People that eat ketogenic require more salt I believe.

Also people with adrenal insufficiency require or could use more salt in general.

28 grams does seem high though, are you going through like a half salt shaker of salt each day??

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519 · September 26, 2013 at 05:03 AM

Most Paleo sources say that 4-6g of sodium a day is optimal, and going under 3g or over 7g is associated with significantly increased mortality.

I recently weighed out how much sodium I was eating (about 7g in a tablespoon of table salt, I believe) and it was waaay beyond 7g a day.

I love salt, but I'm cutting back now. I use more acids in my cooking (usually white vinegar) and it's helped a lot.

If you crave salt, you might want to research aldosterone and adrenal fatigue syndrome.

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3886 · September 26, 2013 at 02:04 AM

I don't think I sweat any more than the average person. I urinate often, because I hydrate very well. I can't tell if I consume the salt to balance out how much I hydrate, or hydrate so much to balance out all the salt I eat, or both at the same time. Potassium varies depending on how much veggies I'm eating, but it doesn't seem to affect salt cravings. Usually it's enough, since I eat lots of avocados and often veggies. Magnesium, not so much. I did try supplementing with natural calm for a while, and it didn't seem to affect anything. I also did Dead Sea salt baths, which definitely replenish magnesium, and that temporarily reduced salt cravings, but after a few baths, it stopped having an effect on salt cravings (still was nice though). For some reason I couldn't type this as a comment. Oh well. I don't think I like the new PaleoHacks format.

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4338 · September 26, 2013 at 12:53 AM

just a few thoughts/questions,

do you sweat a lot?

do you urinate a lot/often?

what is your potassium intake like? (US DRI for potassium is three times greater than sodium, 4.7g vs 1.5g for adults).

what is your magnesium intake like? (US DRI ~400mg for adult male).

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