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by 0 · about 6 hours ago

I've been paleo on and off for the last year or so, but have really committed to sticking with it long term for the past few months. Generally I feel great, and have a constant level of energy throughout the day. I'm avoiding dairy and most... (more)

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Methodician 0 · May 06, 2014 at 11:55 PM

Get some quality salt, put a dash in your Palm, and lick. It will taste bad if you're well salted and good if you're deficient, assuming your natural sodium impulse has been properly restored. I think I read this in the Perfect Health Diet... (more)

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by 598 · about 6 hours ago

Here's a flurry of questions, comments, and concerns... Feel free to pick any bit to answer from. I hate to intimidate people with so many pointed questions so just speak your mind on any point. Looking for opinions as much as facts, but prefer... (more)

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glib 0 · May 03, 2014 at 9:47 PM

Paleo principles suggest that moderni diets have low K, including some paleo diets themselves. We possibly have high Na, since Weston Price's book suggests good health in tropical populations with intakes of 100 mg Na/day. Modern research also... (more)

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by 3280 · about 6 hours ago

As I understand it, there's "two oceans of water": one inside-the-cell and one outside-the-cell. Sodium attracts water out of the cell and potassium attracts water inside-the-cell. From what I understand, edema is when water accumulates... (more)

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elf27 0 · July 08, 2013 at 4:57 PM

I'm not sure if your question is about edema, so if you're trying to cure edema or if you're just trying to stay hydrated? But in general, I have read that salt is also important for hydration, so likely Chloride as well, I'm not sure it would be... (more)

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by 354 · about 6 hours ago

Thanks to this and another site, I found out that my staggering fatigue (post-ketosis) may be related to mineral deficiencies. I've boosted the sodium, potassium, and magnesium (and water throughout the day) and feel like I'm on the mend. I'm... (more)

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Albert83BCN 0 · June 16, 2013 at 6:12 AM

Q#1: According to this link that summarizes mineral needs in a very nice way IMO, it seems that the ideal ratio would be near between 2.5:1 and 4:1 sodium/potassium. Q#2: The bloating thing when boosting electrolytes and water to me looks like... (more)

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by 20 · about 6 hours ago

I just checked my blood pressure last night and it was 143/95!!! Unbelievable - it is usually 120/80... so I was completely shocked. I just now checked the sodium on some of my daily staples. I've been eating beef jerky (620mg sodium per... (more)

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Linds 0 · May 07, 2013 at 12:51 PM

Anything home made is going to be significantly lower in sodium. Home made jerky and freshly cooked steak or ham are loads better for you than any type of packaged convenience food. Buy a giant slab of beef or turkey and make some homemade jerky... (more)

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by 2302 · about 6 hours ago

OK so pretty simple questions...sometimes when I do a 24 hour fast I get kind of light headed (and have to break it as I am "listening to my body"). I know from back when I was in ketosis that this was due to low sodium levels, however ketosis... (more)

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August 0 · March 13, 2013 at 9:28 PM

I just add salt to my coffee on general principles. I had some weird symptoms after being paleo for a while and I figured out I needed more salt. I'm pretty sure paleolithic people were digging to stuff out of the ground and harvesting dried... (more)

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by 3280 · about 6 hours ago

I'm hacking hydration, sodium and potassium. Is water retention as evidenced by how my ring fits on my finger a good indication of hydration? I believe I read that potassium attracts water to inside the cells, and sodium attracts water to... (more)

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Lumifer_1 0 · March 12, 2013 at 8:34 PM

In a word, no. By the time you have so much water retention that your fingers puff up, you're way way out of the proper balance.

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by 3280 · about 6 hours ago

I know, for example, that blood levels of magnesium are not a very good indicator of magnesium levels in cells. Are blood tests for sodium / potassium equally as unhelpful unless you are in dire straights? I'm trying to hack muscle cramping... (more)

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Chris_65 0 · March 12, 2013 at 4:46 AM

Serum electrolytes are fleeting measurements that exist within a very small tolerance range. High potassium may be just a fluke. Get tested again to be sure. Serum measurements do not measure intracellularly rather they provide an overall snapshot... (more)

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by 0 · about 6 hours ago

Since I've gone paleo about a month ago, I'm searching for alternative healthy drinks. My current favourites are Kefir and natural mineral water. Mineral water is highly available in my country (and you cannot find carbonated water anywhere). The... (more)

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by 2485 · about 6 hours ago

Background: I am a active 39 year old female, in the high end of the "normal" weight range but a little chubbier than I'd like. I have Meniere's disease, and I initially started eating paleo because it helped me stick to a low sodium diet. (Yes,... (more)

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Justin_12 0 · January 24, 2013 at 3:15 AM

I hit athletic recovery problems in month 2 of VLC. My advice would be let the athletic performance slip if it needs to so you can maintain the diet and hit your short term weight goal. Sounds like you're in a good groove and compliance is... (more)

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by 2407 · about 6 hours ago

I agree we should try and get our nutrients from food. But our soil is depleted, and getting 4-10g of potassium per day as paleo humans got is pretty hard. Potassium is pretty important for many things, especially nitrogen retention and lean... (more)

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Monte 0 · February 01, 2013 at 6:48 AM

Coconut water. A cup contains about 500mg of potassium. Way easier than getting it from pills.

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by 435 · about 6 hours ago

I am just starting out on a low carb high fat diet (ala Volek and Phinney) and they repeatedly stress the importance of sodium supplementation. A popular means of this supplementation is bouillon cubes. I have been searching high and low for a... (more)

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milajake 0 · December 13, 2012 at 11:51 PM

I like Rapunzel Vegetable Bouillon - Ingredients: Sea Salt, Yeast Extract, Organic Non Hydrogenated Palm Oil, Organic Garlic, Organic Basil, Organic Parsley, Organic Tumeric, Organic Lovage, Organic Celery, Organic Dill. [Organically Grown and... (more)

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by 3280 · about 7 hours ago

Could magnesium/calcium supplements cause dehydration? (Perhaps by drawing water into the intestine and away from other cells in your body? ) Could table salt added to food make that worse? I know a lot of paleo folks take magnesium &... (more)

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BoneBrothFast 0 · August 28, 2012 at 7:05 PM

I've actually been speculating this for a while. When I take magnesium, I do feel more parched. Especially in the mornings. Table salt is shitty because it's only sodium chloride. You will never find just sodium chloride in nature in a state fit... (more)

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by 5381 · about 7 hours ago

Last night I had a racing heart leap up on me, while I was half asleep. Anxiety alerted me too it. Must have been somewhere around 120. I am also getting cramps. So I wondered about electrolytes. I have been salting my meals, but also drinking a... (more)

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Crowlover_ 0 · July 03, 2012 at 2:53 AM

Its possible you need Magnesium. There are lots of threads on dosing and types. Also, how about stopping the Glutamine and see what happens (why are you taking it?) Good luck

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by 3280 · about 7 hours ago

I've been experimenting with Sea Salt and dietary potassium (hacking absolute quantities, as well as relative proportions). I've noticed that when I consume lots of sea salt, I experience vivid dreams when sleeping, and can remember the dreams... (more)

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by 253 · about 7 hours ago

Me- After growing up borderline obese as a kid (235lbs in 7th grade), I trained myself into a pretty athletic 23 yr old male, working 4days a week at crossfit and doing ~20 miles per week running. I have experimented with Intermittent fasting... (more)

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Sam_Knox 0 · June 26, 2012 at 8:33 PM

Lots of low-carbers have found success by adding salt. Failing to supplement sodium is one of the most common mistakes on a low-carb diet.

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by 3280 · about 7 hours ago

Other than perhaps cramping, has anyone experienced any other effects/problems from having potassium and/or sodium out of whack? Just curious, Mike

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Chinaeskimo 0 · June 21, 2012 at 11:22 PM

I work in a restaurant kitchen with no AC. On hot days it can be over 100 and that is without standing in front of the fryer/melter/stove. I then crave weird foods and pour so much salt on my food that you'd think I was insane.

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by 3280 · about 7 hours ago

When eating paleo (low carb paleo or not), how common is it to get at least twice as much potassium as sodium? Is that really important? What are the likely symptoms of too much sodium relative to potassium? According... (more)

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Christopher_Gagnon 0 · June 17, 2012 at 3:16 PM

I didn't really find paleo increased my potassium, but it definitely reduced my sodium--so much so that I suffered cramps until I figured out what was going on and started liberally salting stuff. All the processed foods I gave up are replete... (more)

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by 3280 · about 7 hours ago

There's a really neat animation which depicts how the sodium - potassium pump works in the body: http://highered.mcgraw-hill.com/sites/0072495855/student_view0/chapter2/animation__how_the_sodium_potassium_pump_works.html I've always heart that... (more)

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epaleocookbooks 0 · June 07, 2012 at 6:53 PM

Be careful about going low potassium. Potassium deficiency can cause seizures. You may want to supplement. The recommended ratio is 2:1 potassium:sodium for a normal diet, so if you're not lowcarb, then yes, you should try for that. "Health... (more)

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by 2407 · about 7 hours ago

In this article: http://www.nutritionandmetabolism.com/content/1/1/2 "Sodium and potassium The second factor differentiating the author's studies from many others is optimized mineral nutriture, which has benefits for both cardiovascular reserve... (more)

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orust 0 · June 01, 2012 at 9:56 AM

This only applies to ketogenic or VLC diets really. When insulin falls low enough sodium is not retained at the normal rate. Either intake has to increase or the hormone aldosterone steps in to preserve sodium and hence circulating volume. The... (more)

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by 3280 · about 7 hours ago

I do realize that the obvious answer is: "stop with the sodium, and eat lots of potassium rich foods, and wait and see". But, If my feeling woozy, dizzy, and tension-headache-y was caused by VLC, and too much sodium, and not enough... (more)

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Kim_17 0 · April 20, 2012 at 1:26 AM

I think I was out of balance, but it was a lack of sodium not potassium. I started to eat a little iodized salt and within a day I felt much better and had more energy. I'm not sure that's the root cause; there's probably something wrong with my... (more)

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by 3280 · about 7 hours ago

I'm trying to hack my tension headache / foot cramps & some muscle twitching. From my previous post, I got lots of good suggestions that it could likely be a an electrolyte issue. Since I take magnesium & calcium supplements, and I just... (more)

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raydawg 0 · April 19, 2012 at 12:19 PM

I add fine sea salt to BBQs when marinading as it sticks better, plain kosher salt (a tablespoon) to soups before applying heat, but never to burgers as it shrinks them (after they're cooked and have some ghee melted on top, it's fine). There's... (more)

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by 941 · about 7 hours ago

I have been reading Chris Kresser's series on salt. In part one he talks about the history of our use of and obsession with salt. In part two he discusses how our bodies use salt and the consequences of consuming too much or too little. Over all a... (more)

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FED_at_LiveCaveman_com 0 · April 17, 2012 at 12:18 AM

Blood consumption has been practiced by several HG groups (most famously by the Masai, which I suppose would be classified more as pastoralists) and coastal populations would have had sufficient quantities of sea-food (sea weeds, shellfish, etc.)... (more)

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by 38 · about 7 hours ago

After switching to a paleo diet I unintentionally cut my sodium intake to around 1500mg a day. Which is what is recommended by most guidelines. I drink around 4Liters(135 ounces) of water a day on average which may seem like a lot for some but... (more)

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Dave_S_ 0 · March 12, 2012 at 2:24 PM

Not that I'm aware of, but, as you say, too much water can dangerously lower the concentration of elecrolytes in the body. Are you really that thirsty or is drinking water just an OCD habit? The paleo concept is drink when thirsty - but there... (more)

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by 8933 · about 7 hours ago

I've upped my carb intake lately by eating lots of apples (6 a day). It helps me sleep, but still, there are on and off days. Some days I wake up, some days I don't. Trying a different brand of magnesium (MgT) helped, but not enough. Now, I... (more)

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Richard_2 0 · February 10, 2012 at 8:42 PM

As soon as I hear anything freaky like "I eat six apples every day" its an alarm bell. Lets get sensible for a minute. "Paleo" meant eating similarly to how pre agricultural humans ate. We did not eat six apples a day. We did not eat mountains... (more)

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