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by 0 · May 07, 2014 at 5:21 PM

I've been paleo on and off for the last year or so, but have really committed to sticking with it long term for the past few months. Generally I feel great, and have a constant level of energy throughout the day. I'm avoiding dairy and most... (more)

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Methodician 0 · May 06, 2014 at 11:55 PM

Get some quality salt, put a dash in your Palm, and lick. It will taste bad if you're well salted and good if you're deficient, assuming your natural sodium impulse has been properly restored. I think I read this in the Perfect Health Diet... (more)

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by 583 · May 07, 2014 at 4:46 AM

Here's a flurry of questions, comments, and concerns... Feel free to pick any bit to answer from. I hate to intimidate people with so many pointed questions so just speak your mind on any point. Looking for opinions as much as facts, but prefer... (more)

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glib 0 · May 03, 2014 at 9:47 PM

Paleo principles suggest that moderni diets have low K, including some paleo diets themselves. We possibly have high Na, since Weston Price's book suggests good health in tropical populations with intakes of 100 mg Na/day. Modern research also... (more)

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by -3 · February 09, 2014 at 12:19 AM

Hi there! I LOVE eating meat, and I am trying to start a new paleo/keto eating habit because I've heard it can really decrease the inflammation associated with ankle pain/healing. I am having a hard time eating meat that is not prepared (i.e.... (more)

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paleot 0 · February 09, 2014 at 12:18 AM

1500mg is a bit low unless you're trying to lower your blood pressure through sodium restriction. When intakes of sodium less than 2300 mg per day were compared to intakes greater than 2300 mg per day, the “lower sodium intake was... (more)

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by 3979 · August 03, 2014 at 11:11 PM

I mean, VERY high. I'll eat 2 ounces of anchovies along with some other fish and avocado and veggies with another heaping teaspoon of salt. Meal after meal. I just feel great when I have a lot of salt, especially mentally. If I don't, I feel... (more)

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daz 0 · July 31, 2014 at 4:17 AM

"I am anemic and most likely magnesium deficient..."My money's on a Magnesium deficiency as the primary culprit.esp as you wrote previously; "I also did Dead Sea salt baths, which definitely replenish magnesium, and that temporarily reduced salt... (more)

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by 3280 · September 16, 2014 at 8:11 PM

As I understand it, there's "two oceans of water": one inside-the-cell and one outside-the-cell. Sodium attracts water out of the cell and potassium attracts water inside-the-cell. From what I understand, edema is when water accumulates... (more)

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elf27 0 · July 08, 2013 at 4:57 PM

I'm not sure if your question is about edema, so if you're trying to cure edema or if you're just trying to stay hydrated? But in general, I have read that salt is also important for hydration, so likely Chloride as well, I'm not sure it would be... (more)

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by 354 · September 16, 2014 at 8:10 PM

Thanks to this and another site, I found out that my staggering fatigue (post-ketosis) may be related to mineral deficiencies. I've boosted the sodium, potassium, and magnesium (and water throughout the day) and feel like I'm on the mend. I'm... (more)

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Albert83BCN 0 · June 16, 2013 at 6:12 AM

Q#1: According to this link that summarizes mineral needs in a very nice way IMO, it seems that the ideal ratio would be near between 2.5:1 and 4:1 sodium/potassium. Q#2: The bloating thing when boosting electrolytes and water to me looks like... (more)

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by 20 · September 16, 2014 at 8:08 PM

I just checked my blood pressure last night and it was 143/95!!! Unbelievable - it is usually 120/80... so I was completely shocked. I just now checked the sodium on some of my daily staples. I've been eating beef jerky (620mg sodium per... (more)

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Linds 0 · May 07, 2013 at 12:51 PM

Anything home made is going to be significantly lower in sodium. Home made jerky and freshly cooked steak or ham are loads better for you than any type of packaged convenience food. Buy a giant slab of beef or turkey and make some homemade jerky... (more)

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by 952 · September 16, 2014 at 8:07 PM

I recently did a comprehensive vitamins and minerals test. Everything was fine, except for low sodium (2532 while range is 2900 - 3335). Interestingly, the last time I took the test in 2009 it was the same. However, results of my regular... (more)

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Hepoberman 0 · April 21, 2013 at 10:15 AM

Serum sodium is homeostatic. Your body can be low on sodium while serum sodium is normal. If you eat less than 60 grams of carbohydrate daily you'll need a couple extra grams of sodium daily. Potassium will need supplemented as well, most... (more)

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by 2302 · September 16, 2014 at 8:05 PM

OK so pretty simple questions...sometimes when I do a 24 hour fast I get kind of light headed (and have to break it as I am "listening to my body"). I know from back when I was in ketosis that this was due to low sodium levels, however ketosis... (more)

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August 0 · March 13, 2013 at 9:28 PM

I just add salt to my coffee on general principles. I had some weird symptoms after being paleo for a while and I figured out I needed more salt. I'm pretty sure paleolithic people were digging to stuff out of the ground and harvesting dried... (more)

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by 3280 · September 16, 2014 at 8:05 PM

I'm hacking hydration, sodium and potassium. Is water retention as evidenced by how my ring fits on my finger a good indication of hydration? I believe I read that potassium attracts water to inside the cells, and sodium attracts water to... (more)

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Lumifer_1 0 · March 12, 2013 at 8:34 PM

In a word, no. By the time you have so much water retention that your fingers puff up, you're way way out of the proper balance.

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by 3280 · September 16, 2014 at 8:05 PM

I know, for example, that blood levels of magnesium are not a very good indicator of magnesium levels in cells. Are blood tests for sodium / potassium equally as unhelpful unless you are in dire straights? I'm trying to hack muscle cramping... (more)

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Chris_65 0 · March 12, 2013 at 4:46 AM

Serum electrolytes are fleeting measurements that exist within a very small tolerance range. High potassium may be just a fluke. Get tested again to be sure. Serum measurements do not measure intracellularly rather they provide an overall snapshot... (more)

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by 0 · September 16, 2014 at 8:03 PM

Since I've gone paleo about a month ago, I'm searching for alternative healthy drinks. My current favourites are Kefir and natural mineral water. Mineral water is highly available in my country (and you cannot find carbonated water anywhere). The... (more)

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by 2485 · September 16, 2014 at 8:02 PM

Background: I am a active 39 year old female, in the high end of the "normal" weight range but a little chubbier than I'd like. I have Meniere's disease, and I initially started eating paleo because it helped me stick to a low sodium diet. (Yes,... (more)

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Justin_12 0 · January 24, 2013 at 3:15 AM

I hit athletic recovery problems in month 2 of VLC. My advice would be let the athletic performance slip if it needs to so you can maintain the diet and hit your short term weight goal. Sounds like you're in a good groove and compliance is... (more)

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by 2407 · September 16, 2014 at 8:01 PM

I agree we should try and get our nutrients from food. But our soil is depleted, and getting 4-10g of potassium per day as paleo humans got is pretty hard. Potassium is pretty important for many things, especially nitrogen retention and lean... (more)

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Monte 0 · February 01, 2013 at 6:48 AM

Coconut water. A cup contains about 500mg of potassium. Way easier than getting it from pills.

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by 259 · September 16, 2014 at 8:00 PM

Out of curiosity- has anyone noticed changes they can link to electrolyte imbalances? I binged on bacon not long ago, (the bad, processed, only 83% actual pig kind, don't judge me, it was a dark time), and I think I sent my body into some kind... (more)

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CD 0 · December 21, 2012 at 1:43 PM

Sodium, Potassium, and Magnesium are typically the worst offenders with an electrolyte imbalance. For those who shun dairy, calcium can be a problem too. Hyperkalemia is the worst since it can be hard to self-diagnose and ultimately could lead... (more)

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by 435 · September 16, 2014 at 7:58 PM

I am just starting out on a low carb high fat diet (ala Volek and Phinney) and they repeatedly stress the importance of sodium supplementation. A popular means of this supplementation is bouillon cubes. I have been searching high and low for a... (more)

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milajake 0 · December 13, 2012 at 11:51 PM

I like Rapunzel Vegetable Bouillon - Ingredients: Sea Salt, Yeast Extract, Organic Non Hydrogenated Palm Oil, Organic Garlic, Organic Basil, Organic Parsley, Organic Tumeric, Organic Lovage, Organic Celery, Organic Dill. [Organically Grown and... (more)

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by 2407 · September 16, 2014 at 7:58 PM

I've used sodium Bicarb to get super soft stir fry meat. But, can one use potassium Bicarb for the same purpose? I'd rather take in more K than Na.

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by 3280 · September 16, 2014 at 7:53 PM

Could magnesium/calcium supplements cause dehydration? (Perhaps by drawing water into the intestine and away from other cells in your body? ) Could table salt added to food make that worse? I know a lot of paleo folks take magnesium &... (more)

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BoneBrothFast 0 · August 28, 2012 at 7:05 PM

I've actually been speculating this for a while. When I take magnesium, I do feel more parched. Especially in the mornings. Table salt is shitty because it's only sodium chloride. You will never find just sodium chloride in nature in a state fit... (more)

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by 5381 · September 16, 2014 at 7:48 PM

Last night I had a racing heart leap up on me, while I was half asleep. Anxiety alerted me too it. Must have been somewhere around 120. I am also getting cramps. So I wondered about electrolytes. I have been salting my meals, but also drinking a... (more)

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Crowlover_ 0 · July 03, 2012 at 2:53 AM

Its possible you need Magnesium. There are lots of threads on dosing and types. Also, how about stopping the Glutamine and see what happens (why are you taking it?) Good luck

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by 3280 · September 16, 2014 at 7:48 PM

I've been experimenting with Sea Salt and dietary potassium (hacking absolute quantities, as well as relative proportions). I've noticed that when I consume lots of sea salt, I experience vivid dreams when sleeping, and can remember the dreams... (more)

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by 253 · September 16, 2014 at 7:48 PM

Me- After growing up borderline obese as a kid (235lbs in 7th grade), I trained myself into a pretty athletic 23 yr old male, working 4days a week at crossfit and doing ~20 miles per week running. I have experimented with Intermittent fasting... (more)

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Sam_Knox 0 · June 26, 2012 at 8:33 PM

Lots of low-carbers have found success by adding salt. Failing to supplement sodium is one of the most common mistakes on a low-carb diet.

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by 3280 · September 16, 2014 at 7:48 PM

Other than perhaps cramping, has anyone experienced any other effects/problems from having potassium and/or sodium out of whack? Just curious, Mike

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Chinaeskimo 0 · June 21, 2012 at 11:22 PM

I work in a restaurant kitchen with no AC. On hot days it can be over 100 and that is without standing in front of the fryer/melter/stove. I then crave weird foods and pour so much salt on my food that you'd think I was insane.

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by 3280 · September 16, 2014 at 7:47 PM

When eating paleo (low carb paleo or not), how common is it to get at least twice as much potassium as sodium? Is that really important? What are the likely symptoms of too much sodium relative to potassium? According... (more)

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Christopher_Gagnon 0 · June 17, 2012 at 3:16 PM

I didn't really find paleo increased my potassium, but it definitely reduced my sodium--so much so that I suffered cramps until I figured out what was going on and started liberally salting stuff. All the processed foods I gave up are replete... (more)

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by 3280 · September 16, 2014 at 7:47 PM

There's a really neat animation which depicts how the sodium - potassium pump works in the body: http://highered.mcgraw-hill.com/sites/0072495855/student_view0/chapter2/animation__how_the_sodium_potassium_pump_works.html I've always heart that... (more)

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epaleocookbooks 0 · June 07, 2012 at 6:53 PM

Be careful about going low potassium. Potassium deficiency can cause seizures. You may want to supplement. The recommended ratio is 2:1 potassium:sodium for a normal diet, so if you're not lowcarb, then yes, you should try for that. "Health... (more)

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by 3280 · September 16, 2014 at 7:46 PM

I've been having a problem with muscle cramps. Yesterday, I switched to Morton's Half-Salt: (half sodium, half potassium). My slight muscle cramps (calves & foot) in the morning escalated abruptly into terrible back spasm & neck muscles... (more)

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Robin_10 0 · June 02, 2012 at 12:43 PM

Muscle cramps are really hard to figure out. For many people, it's a lack of potassium and/or magnesium, but both made my cramps worse. Eventually I figured out it was too little calcium -- I had removed too many dairy sources from my diet while... (more)