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Stomach pain, bloat, sometimes flatulence

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Created March 23, 2011 at 3:05 AM

Hey Paleo Buddies! I need some help. I've been eating what I think is a strict paleo diet and all went well for about 3 weeks (lost 5-6 lbs and started to feel energy come back) and although my stomach made some noise, I didn't experience any ill-effects. However, I am on week 6 and have been experiencing numerous stomach issues including pain, severe bloating, and sometimes gas. My weight has come back up a few pounds (which sounds normal)__I'm 5'6" and 124 and live a very fit lifestyle (competitive swimmer) but have tried to adjust my training to "fit" paleo plan better (currently swim 1-1.5 hrs/day, 4 days a week with a team, lift weights 2 days a week with plyometrics between weight sets)--I've cut out some extra workouts to avoid overtraining. My current diet: is breakfast=chicken apple sausage (6 gms carbs), 2 omega-enriched eggs with 1/4 cup spinach and 3/4 cup asparagus cooked in coconut oil. Lunch=spinach salad with chicken, bacon, and olive oil. Dinner=buffalo steak cooked in coconut oil with 1.5 cups asparagus. Snack is almonds and buffalo jerky. I cut out all grains, dairy, gluten, and fruit. I use calm (magnesium supplement) in the morning and the last 2 days, I added probiotics...which seem to have helped symptoms some. What am I doing wrong? Do I need digestive enzymes? I need help--because I cannot continue to be doubled-over and bloated every night. THANKS!

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11683 · October 20, 2011 at 11:19 AM

I know this thread is old, but I just noticed you're eating asparagus twice a day. That's a high-fructan food and very bloating food for me - it might be the culprit.

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4080 · March 24, 2011 at 3:34 PM

Thanks! I tried SCD for 4 months with no improvement, maybe its cause I always burnt the 24 hr yogurt. I haven't given up a tiny bit of fruit & honey which may be a bad no the sugar scale. I also eat a ton of cooked veggie's. Coffee once a week may be a problem too. You have given me something to thing about! Thanks!

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8858 · March 24, 2011 at 3:08 PM

In response to your other question, if I get over a certain threshold of sugar, digestive problems begin. My hypothesis is that fiber is not the problem, that the sugar is the fuel source and that fiber provides the substrate for bad bacteria. Lettuce, for example, in the absence of any sugar in my diet, is digested easily, providing some support for this idea. Many people find great success with SCD and GAPS diets, which are nowhere near as restrictive as what I do (I really like and thrive on simplicity and repetition).

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8858 · March 24, 2011 at 3:03 PM

My breakfast staple is bacon and eggs; I fry the bacon and then use the grease for the eggs. I keep some salmon marinated in white vine vinegar and olive oil in the fridge and have that sometimes as well. Or I reheat some turkey or beef liver pate in the bacon grease. I also like coffee with heavy cream. For lunch I'll have coffee with whipping cream and/or leftovers or I'll skip it. Usually dinner is cooking in the crock pot while I work; I make stews with chardonnay or water and some beef or chicken, bone broth, curry powder, and/or other spices. Of course, a nice steak is always nice...

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4080 · March 23, 2011 at 8:26 PM

I have been diagnosed with SIBO and have same symptoms as the original poster. (I have tried everything). Paleo isn't helping so far..interesting to read that you gave up sugar and fiber, including veggie's. I am already so limited that I cant imagine what you eat? Let me know and I might try it out. If you do eat some fiber do your original symptoms come back?

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4086 · March 23, 2011 at 2:00 PM

and I think there is stevia in Natural Calm mag supplement.

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451 · March 23, 2011 at 8:32 AM

Do you perhaps use stevia to sweeten your drinks now? Stevia gives me wicked cramps and terrible flatulence and diarrhoea so I have to avoid it like the plague or face digestive misery...

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4086 · March 23, 2011 at 2:00 PM

and I think there is stevia in Natural Calm mag supplement.

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305 · March 23, 2011 at 3:20 AM

I would remove different foods until you find out what is causing the upset stomach. Some people have issues with coconut, others with Bacon etc. Do one at a time.

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1617 · March 23, 2011 at 6:28 PM

I would be bloated too on the food you described. For me, it's too much protein at once / not enough starchy carbs that gives me awful bloating. You're active, so you may need more protein than I do, but at 5'7" and 133 lbs I do best with no more than 4-6 oz of meat at a time and a potato on the side to make up for it. Might be something to try if nothing else works.

Oh and too many nuts can be bad news too. Snacking on almonds makes me feel icky (scientific term ;)).

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18 · March 23, 2011 at 3:28 AM

I had the same exact problem and I cut out almonds. I think I was eating way to many nuts as a snack. I was also eating a lot of buffalo jerky. My naturopath said that some blood types don't digest read meats as well. I limited the red meat and cut out the almonds and life is good now.

I have zero credentials, but it worked for me.

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8858 · March 23, 2011 at 3:56 PM

If you need digestive enzymes or probiotics, then there is something still wrong that needs to be corrected. I always suspect bacterial overgrowth when I hear digestive symptoms because I fought with these issues for over a year. In my case, certain foods turned out to trigger bacterial overgrowth in the small intestine (SIBO, Small Intestinal Bacterial Overgrowth). Initially I found some success with amylase enzyme pills and reducing and then eliminating starches. But it always came back. Now I avoid sugar and fiber, including vegetables. Problem solved.

Note that if you find positive results from probiotics, then this is not your condition. (You state that you think they're helping matters but it could simply correlate with a reduction in trigger foods). There are a number of diets that eliminate specific carbohydrate sources that trigger overgrowth (SCD, GAPS--both have the same "legal" / "illegal" foods list). Consider trying one of these diets and see if it improves. The improvement will be quite dramatic, if this is the case.

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4080 · March 24, 2011 at 3:34 PM

Thanks! I tried SCD for 4 months with no improvement, maybe its cause I always burnt the 24 hr yogurt. I haven't given up a tiny bit of fruit & honey which may be a bad no the sugar scale. I also eat a ton of cooked veggie's. Coffee once a week may be a problem too. You have given me something to thing about! Thanks!

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8858 · March 24, 2011 at 3:08 PM

In response to your other question, if I get over a certain threshold of sugar, digestive problems begin. My hypothesis is that fiber is not the problem, that the sugar is the fuel source and that fiber provides the substrate for bad bacteria. Lettuce, for example, in the absence of any sugar in my diet, is digested easily, providing some support for this idea. Many people find great success with SCD and GAPS diets, which are nowhere near as restrictive as what I do (I really like and thrive on simplicity and repetition).

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8858 · March 24, 2011 at 3:03 PM

My breakfast staple is bacon and eggs; I fry the bacon and then use the grease for the eggs. I keep some salmon marinated in white vine vinegar and olive oil in the fridge and have that sometimes as well. Or I reheat some turkey or beef liver pate in the bacon grease. I also like coffee with heavy cream. For lunch I'll have coffee with whipping cream and/or leftovers or I'll skip it. Usually dinner is cooking in the crock pot while I work; I make stews with chardonnay or water and some beef or chicken, bone broth, curry powder, and/or other spices. Of course, a nice steak is always nice...

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4080 · March 23, 2011 at 8:26 PM

I have been diagnosed with SIBO and have same symptoms as the original poster. (I have tried everything). Paleo isn't helping so far..interesting to read that you gave up sugar and fiber, including veggie's. I am already so limited that I cant imagine what you eat? Let me know and I might try it out. If you do eat some fiber do your original symptoms come back?

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