Are there any good supplements to replace organ meats?

by 8848 · November 30, 2010 at 04:15 AM

I ask mainly out of ignorance of, and aversion to, preparation of beef liver (for example). Have no idea what to do with it and not sure I'd find the results pleasing. I see Dr. Ron's has (expensive) supplement products. Worthwhile? How about Cod Liver oil? Fermented or non-fermented? I eat lots of meat and fish but fear that I'm missing out on some essential elements.

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103 · November 30, 2010 at 01:15 AM

I don't eat any organ meats so I supplement with:

  • Vitamin K2 MK7 90cmg 2-4 times/week
  • Vitamin K2 MK4 5mg 1-3 times/week
  • Cod Liver Oil 30ml/week
  • Vitamin D3 5000IU 5 times/week
  • Creatine 2-3g/day (also for performance but found in high concentrations in organs esp heart)
  • Conjugated Linoleic Acid (CLA) taken randomly
  • Probiotic also taken randomly
  • Partial dose of a good Multi-Vitamin (on days I prepare and cook all my own food I skip it entirely)

I am a young student who eats very good Paleo but low variation and nothing fancy (sausages and salad would best summarize my diet ;) ). As life goes on I do plan to expand my daily menu to incorporate organ meats, and also cultured & fermented foods. Until then I am supplementing as best I can to emulate a fully comprehensive ancestral diet with a nod to modern medical science.

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20469 · November 30, 2010 at 04:15 AM

Personally, I think that all the vitamins in organ meat could be gotten through other food items or other ways. Vit D from the sun, vit A and folate from spinach, b12 from other kinds of meat including muscle meat, Copper might be a harder one to replace in quantity, but other foods like kiwi and avocado have it as well. The convenience of liver is that it has a lot of nutrients packed into each bite, but you could still get all those nutrients by eating other healthy whole foods instead.

263 · November 29, 2010 at 11:25 PM

I would suggest giving real liver a try before spending any money on an expensive supplement. Liver is cheap; If you don't like it it's not a big loss, and you may end up really enjoying it. Here's a simple recipe: http://high-fat-nutrition.blogspot.com/2008/03/food-liver-and-bacon.html

4337 · November 29, 2010 at 10:50 PM

If I ate a lot of beef liver, I would eat no dairy fat. This inconvenient posture is probably the purest from the paleo perspective.

If I ate no beef liver, I would eat plenty of dairy fat and ensure adequate vitamin K by taking a low-dose supplement. I wouldn't be surprised if all forms of k are similarly effective in vitamin D replete people, but since that hasn't been established yet, you have to guess. It seems to be that K2 (mk-7), K2 (mk-4), or K1 are all reasonable bets. This category is where I am and I alternate days between thorne's D/mk-4 drops (100mcg K2), 100 mcg K1, and 45 mcg mk-7/

If I ate no beef liver or dairy fat, I might take a low-dose vitamin A pill along with the vitamin K regiment I described above.

1048 · November 29, 2010 at 10:37 PM

I'm about half way through my first bottle of Dr. Ron's Organ Delight. Expensive is a relative term and there's not a surefire way to know if you're benefitting from it. You basically need to do your own research and ask yourself if you want to commit to it. You won't see or feel any results by trying them for 3-6 months.

I bought fermented cod liver oil and butter oil as well. Both of those should last 12 weeks.

Another thing you can do if cost is an issue is supplement Organ Delight every other month. Better than nothing and half the price. IMO, alternating supplements and taking time off from them makes sense in a Paleo lifestyle. Keeps you from becoming deficient. And I doubt our ancestors every had access to any nutrient on a daily basis.

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