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Do you supplement Vitamin C?

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Created June 18, 2014 at 9:18 AM

Do you supplement Vitamin C? If so, how much, and why? If not, why not?

I prefer to not supplement anything and i get about 2-300% RDA of vitamin c, but it seems there may be benefits to going higher

I was doing some research on ways of reversing atherosclerosis and i found this, very interesting:

Pauling Linus' Unified Theory of CVD

http://orthomolecular.org/library/jom/1992/pdf/1992-v07n01-p005.pdf

The only things I find hard to reconcile is how much I pee when I take vitamin c, so i'm probably not even using it, and how humans would've ever got anywhere near the doses he recommends through dietary sources, it just doesn't seem natural. I can push past these issues as I ate unnatural foods for so many years, so taking unnatural measures to prevent CVD makes some sense, plus i am at very high risk for CVD so if mega dosing vitamin c helps prevent it or even reverse it then i'm all for it.

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83 · June 19, 2014 at 9:54 AM

Interesting stuff, expensive compared to ascorbic acid but they seem to guarantee almost full absorption, if the benefits of vitamin c are so great I wouldn't mind paying £1 a day really. It might be cheaper to make it yourself though which im looking into

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1005 · June 19, 2014 at 6:02 AM

This stuff makes awesome looking cocktails:

http://www.livonlabs.com/cgi-bin/start.cgi/liposom...

"Liposomal Vitamin C is able to produce serum levels of vitamin C nearly double those thought theoretically possible."

http://www.livonlabs.com/proof/Dr_Hickey_Clinical_...

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245 · June 19, 2014 at 12:46 AM

I agree with this, but vitamin C is such an easy 'check' off the list, if there are no downsides and only potential ups then I can't see why it would not be desirable.

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245 · June 19, 2014 at 12:44 AM

Not sure I agree with you trying to anthropomorphize the body. While yes in general the body does have many controls in it that dictate how much and of what we need, our bodies are not omnipotent and will do things that are not in it's own best interest. Just think of when people get infections and our bodies deem it wise to heat up to 104F, or when our bodies think it's wise to store fat soluble vitamins or minerals to the point of toxicity. It could just be an inherit feature of water soluble vitamins that they don't stay in the system long. ( Needed/wanted/ideal or otherwise )

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245 · June 19, 2014 at 12:40 AM

I have a big bag of it in powder form, I just throw some on my tongue then drink water, not sure how much it comes into contact with my teeth.

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83 · June 18, 2014 at 3:36 PM

I mix with water but even that leaves a nasty feeling on teeth

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83 · June 18, 2014 at 3:11 PM

I do wonder why if I have a severe deficiency of it why I seem to pee like a racehorse when I drink it, you'd think my body would be using up every last little bit

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41471 · June 18, 2014 at 3:07 PM

Don't chew vitamin C, very hard on tooth enamel.

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41471 · June 18, 2014 at 3:05 PM

Not sure vitamin C supplementation is the answer there, or at least it wouldn't rank very high in terms of priorities. Macronutrient/micronutrient sufficiency, activity, sunlight, sleep, stress levels… all would rank much higher than biohacking serum vitamin C.

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41471 · June 18, 2014 at 2:58 PM

That's the only way to do it, and even then it's only elevating maybe 50% over baseline. When you stop, you eliminate it quite quickly, to me, that suggests that our bodies know better! Excess ascorbate isn't desired by our bodies.

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83 · June 18, 2014 at 1:16 PM

I do wonder but I'll try almost anything to reduce CVD risk

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83 · June 18, 2014 at 1:15 PM

How do you take it? Ascorbic acid in water? I worry about my teeth so take a teaspoon before brushing teeth in the am & pm. I'm thinking about getting some sodium ascorbate instead & spacing it out.

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245 · June 18, 2014 at 1:04 PM

Yea vitamin C is probably one of the better tasting vitamins, I think copper is probably the worst. :D

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245 · June 18, 2014 at 1:03 PM

what about taking small doses throughout the day as a method of increasing serum levels?

I personally take my vitamin c 3-5 times throughout the day.

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83 · June 18, 2014 at 11:04 AM

Haha 'expensive pee', I hear after a month or so you stop peeing it out so much. I like the taste aswell so feel fairly confident taking a teaspoon or two of it.

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83 · June 18, 2014 at 9:59 AM

I'll look into clove oil, thanks

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1005 · June 18, 2014 at 4:15 PM

I don't do much ascorbic acid as a supplement, but I get lots of the vitamin C complex in my diet. (I probably eat a bell pepper a day with a couple lbs of plants.) If I feel like I'm fighting something or need the immune system boost, then I supplement small doses frequently for a couple days, but luckily I haven't felt the need to do that in a long time.

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41471 · June 18, 2014 at 11:47 AM

Linus Pauling is a loon. Sure, he has a Nobel prize, but he's squandered it on psuedo-science. The problem with vitamin C megadosing is that it's largely ineffective at raising serum ascrobate levels. Our bodies actively eliminate excess vitamin C. They also maintain a constant level by recycling spent ascorbate (animals generally do not do this). That's why you can go without vitamin C for quite a while before deficiency symptoms crop up.

If it sounds too good to be true, it probably is.

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245 · June 18, 2014 at 1:03 PM

what about taking small doses throughout the day as a method of increasing serum levels?

I personally take my vitamin c 3-5 times throughout the day.

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83 · June 18, 2014 at 1:16 PM

I do wonder but I'll try almost anything to reduce CVD risk

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245 · June 18, 2014 at 10:40 AM

I supplement a few g's of vitamin C per day, not sure it really does anything. However people make some pretty extraordinary claims for vitamin C and given it's cheap price and low risk even at stupidly high doses then I figure it's worth taking just for the luls, even if it's simply making expensive pee.

Whether It's natural of not, well if you're consuming many, many lbs of veggies/fruits a day then you probably could get up there to a few 100 percent RDA. I don't think it really matters though, no one cares what's 'paleo', they care what's optimal.

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83 · June 18, 2014 at 11:04 AM

Haha 'expensive pee', I hear after a month or so you stop peeing it out so much. I like the taste aswell so feel fairly confident taking a teaspoon or two of it.

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5 · June 18, 2014 at 9:42 AM

My diet calculates close to 600% and it is for a calorie deficit plan, you can do much better with diet. I remember reading some refuting studies about such vitamin c supplementation.

Why don't you use some clove oil instead ? Though it's relation with CVD probably has never been established explicitly, and won't, I think it might do a good job on inflammation and oxidative stress, more economically. You first need to test it on your skin in some fixed oil for an allergic reaction.

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83 · June 18, 2014 at 9:59 AM

I'll look into clove oil, thanks

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