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Multivitamin use.

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Created October 17, 2010 at 11:30 PM

I'm new to this so bare with me if you have already covered this topic. What are your thoughts on multivitamins and other supplements. For all the power litters, do you use creatine? Thanks for your time.

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15976 · October 19, 2010 at 12:42 PM

i never eat actual liver. Don't like it. Thus i buy and take Dr. Ron's freeze-dried New Zealand beef liver. Heres the link if you're interested: http://www.drrons.com/thyroid-adrenal-liver-pancreas-glandulars.htm I only take 3 caps per day which is the equivalent of approx one-half ounce.

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2399 · October 19, 2010 at 6:08 AM

How often do you eat liver ?

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20787 · October 19, 2010 at 5:01 AM

Sorry, yeah, I tend to forget D because I have decent sun access.

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15976 · October 18, 2010 at 11:14 PM

@Jay, really? i never thought that. I dont feel/see any symptoms. Im completely open to new ideas and suggestions though.

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2423 · October 18, 2010 at 9:34 PM

Wow, and he didn't even say the brands, quantities, or frequencies of his cod/beef liver supplements. Pretty clairvoyant of you.

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4359 · October 18, 2010 at 5:18 PM

You are getting far too much vitamin A.

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6157 · October 18, 2010 at 2:05 PM

Don't forget Vitamin D3 for those of us who work in offices all day and don't have access to sunlight, or for older people who don't produce enough D through sunlight, or for people who live farther than 40 degrees latitude away from the equator and don't get UVB radiation in the winter months.

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606 · October 18, 2010 at 11:22 AM

Good point - I only take fish oil on days I don't eat fish :)

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606 · October 18, 2010 at 12:21 AM

If you're eating high quality food I don't think supplements are worth the cost. I used to take a few, including creatine, and found that they really didn't help that much.

Factor in the possibility that some of that stuff can take a toll on your body and, in my opinion, you're better off without them. I'd rather make slow and steady athletic progress than risk the chance of burning out early. I've actually found that proper rest is the most effective thing I can do to speed up my own development.

I have found that a few tablespoons of fish oil a day has improved my performance, so I'd encourage you to experiment with that.

Everyone seems to have a "pet" vitamin/supplement so I'm looking forward to what other people have to say. Ultimately, you should listen to your body. Try things, be mindful of placebo effects, and find something that works for you.

Good luck!

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783 · October 18, 2010 at 1:30 PM

Unless you have money to flush down the toilet, multivitamins of the GNC variety are not the best way to go. Instead of this shotgun approach to nutrient supplementation, I would suggest tracking your nutrition with something like fitday.com for a couple of weeks to see if you are deficient in any particular nutrient. If you are, you have two options: you can seek to eat more foods that possess the deficient nutrients, or you can supplement it with a whole foods source supplement produced by a reputable source, like Nutri-West, Douglas Labs, or Standard Process. The first is obviously the better choice, but these nutraceutical companies have a lot of good to offer as well.

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20787 · October 18, 2010 at 1:58 AM

I bet if you check your vitamin levels, most of them are more than met but more probably greatly exceeded via paleo. Taking multivitamins that probably include things like iron and vitamin A may even be counterproductive in some ways. Why take vitamins that you are already ingesting tons of already? If you want to insure proper vitamin intake, my advice would be to take only those that you may be low in, which on paleo would likely only be a a few if any. Some to watch out for are iodine (if you don't use table salt anymore), magnesium, calcium, and vit E. But analyze your diet before taking random vitamins!

As for other kinds of supplements, I am not a big fan and would not consider them without a whole ton of research backing them as being useful even for those who are already eating healthy. I am even a bit on the fence for fish oil. I'd rather just eat fish.

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6157 · October 18, 2010 at 2:05 PM

Don't forget Vitamin D3 for those of us who work in offices all day and don't have access to sunlight, or for older people who don't produce enough D through sunlight, or for people who live farther than 40 degrees latitude away from the equator and don't get UVB radiation in the winter months.

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606 · October 18, 2010 at 11:22 AM

Good point - I only take fish oil on days I don't eat fish :)

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20787 · October 19, 2010 at 5:01 AM

Sorry, yeah, I tend to forget D because I have decent sun access.

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22913 · October 18, 2010 at 5:39 PM

Vit D3, because I'm not outside all day and Real Food

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4359 · October 18, 2010 at 5:30 PM

Almost all multivitamins contain way too much of numerous ingredients. They also contain too little of the most important vitamin -- vit D3.

The biggest problem that I am aware of relates to too much folic acid. A recent randomized trial (in Sweden where, unlike here, they don't fortify their flour) found that supplementing 800 mcg seemed to cause a 28% increase in the rate of cancer! Most multivitamins contain either 400 mcg or 800mcg. Why would you take a health supplement that may increase your cancer risk as much as smoking cigarettes?

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15976 · October 18, 2010 at 1:40 PM

I'd say stop them all wholehog. Eat well for a good month or more, then add in what you feel or test for and know that you might need.

I only take a fermented cod liver oil, magnesium (natural calm), and beef liver (the beef liver i consider a food, just that its in the form of a pill).

My reasoning behind these supps is that i live in NYC and dont get the amount of sun i'd like, dont get to eat the healthiest animals all the time, and dont eat nuts or seeds.

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4359 · October 18, 2010 at 5:18 PM

You are getting far too much vitamin A.

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2399 · October 19, 2010 at 6:08 AM

How often do you eat liver ?

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2423 · October 18, 2010 at 9:34 PM

Wow, and he didn't even say the brands, quantities, or frequencies of his cod/beef liver supplements. Pretty clairvoyant of you.

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15976 · October 19, 2010 at 12:42 PM

i never eat actual liver. Don't like it. Thus i buy and take Dr. Ron's freeze-dried New Zealand beef liver. Heres the link if you're interested: http://www.drrons.com/thyroid-adrenal-liver-pancreas-glandulars.htm I only take 3 caps per day which is the equivalent of approx one-half ounce.

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15976 · October 18, 2010 at 11:14 PM

@Jay, really? i never thought that. I dont feel/see any symptoms. Im completely open to new ideas and suggestions though.

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