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by 39821 · September 16, 2014 at 7:29 PM

K-2 concentrates in the saliva in order to mineralize calcium in our teeth. Zinc supplementation increases salivary calcium levels: http://jdr.sagepub.com/content/84/1/35.short Weston Price treated caries with his high vitamin butter oil, which... (more)

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The_Quilt 0 · September 07, 2011 at 1:24 AM

Travis.....as a former dentist this is spot on based on things I have read. If I could upvote you more I would. I hope every dentist reads this......sadly few will. Plus one.

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by 362 · September 16, 2014 at 7:47 PM

I suffer from osteoporosis, certainly due to genetic factors (my mother has it) and also eating disorders as teen. At only 38 I want to make sure I get absolutely enough of the right vitamins and minerals to give myself the best chance of... (more)

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Dragonfly 0 · June 09, 2012 at 1:48 PM

Your diet sounds great. Personally, I would drop the FCLO and eat 3-4 oz of liver/week for A and take a separate D supplement. Carlson's makes a good one that is CLO and lanolin-derived. Solar D Gems. I think iHerb ships to the... (more)

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by 344 · September 16, 2014 at 7:46 PM

Just curious to know what the current wisdom on this supplement is. I've been taking a few drops under the tongue of Thorne's liquid K2 and just want to be sure that it is still considered "safe" and "beneficial". Just worries me a bit seeing the... (more)

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Alex 0 · May 29, 2012 at 6:36 PM

I take a Life Extension Super K every day. It has K1, K2 MK-4, and K2 MK-7.

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by 10984 · September 16, 2014 at 7:58 PM

Is anyone here supplementing with hefty amounts of the fat soluble vitamins A (Retinol) D3 and K2-MK-4 (Activator-X)? I know that Weston Price emphasizes this as rather important and I know that Vitamins A and D up-regulate the opposites... (more)

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The_Paleo_Nurse 0 · December 07, 2012 at 2:08 PM

I use Green Pastures cod liver oil and butter oil. I'm not sure what you would consider large amounts, but I take a few teaspoons of each daily. I believe in the WAPF position on vitamin A and D. And I believe that the cod liver oil helps with... (more)

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by 4163 · September 16, 2014 at 7:13 PM

Hi All, I feel like all I am doing is writing questions about health problems, I don't seem to be a very good advertisement for the Primal way of life at the moment! Ah well, at least I'm thin ;) About 4 years ago I developed a cyst on the side... (more)

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Kimmie 0 · May 31, 2010 at 3:34 AM

I don't know about over-supplementation, but I've read an awful lot linking cysts with low iodine levels. Dr. Jorge Flechas is particularly vocal about it, and claims that cysts - sebaceous cysts, ovarian cysts, Fibrocystic breasts, keloids, etc.... (more)

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by 39821 · September 16, 2014 at 7:17 PM

After reading about natto, I expected it to be a horrendous food that I'd be able to choke down once a week at best, but I had some earlier and found it to be completely inoffensive. I'm now thinking about eating it every day, but I wonder if it... (more)

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Paleo_Seb 0 · January 05, 2011 at 10:14 AM

I wouldn't worry about getting too much K2 out of natto, I would rather worry about the phytoestrogens and lectins in the soy as well as its goitrogenic properties. Even though it's fermented, some nasties are just very hard to eliminate... (more)

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by 18397 · September 16, 2014 at 7:22 PM

Dr K has made reference to testing grass-fed butters for Vit K2 levels and has said that Kerrygold tested at zero before, which didn't help with some people's suspicions that KG may not be entirely grass fed. But tartare provided a link to a fact... (more)

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sarah_ann 0 · May 02, 2011 at 2:52 PM

I wonder if the K2 doesn't vary wildly with season. I know that the butter is different colours depending on the time of year. Hence why high vitamin butter oil is only from cows fed on summer pasture.

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by 4620 · September 16, 2014 at 7:31 PM

Since the bacteria in our gut produce some K2 as a result of fermentation, and natto (a fermented food) is very high in K2, would it make sense that kraut, kimchi, pickles, etc. have some K2 as well? K2 is the final piece in my supplementation... (more)

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dzone 0 · October 18, 2011 at 9:46 PM

There are two natural forms of vitamin K: K1 & K2. K1 - Plant source (phylloquinone aka phytomenadione aka phytonadione) K2 - Bacterial and animal source (menaquinone - MK-n, n=4..10, ???n??? determined by the number of prenyl side... (more)

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by 3509 · September 16, 2014 at 7:19 PM

Currently I am not having any supplement, but two substances raised my interest: co-enzime q10 which is produced by the body but its production diminishes with age, to the extent that some people believe that it is one of the substances that... (more)

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Helen 0 · February 25, 2011 at 10:18 PM

I supplement with K-2 and since I started doing so, all of the spider veins I had in my ankles and at the sides of my nose have disappeared.

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by 10 · September 16, 2014 at 7:48 PM

Can someone please point me to a Cal Mag D3 K2 MK-4 SOY-FREE supplement?

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Tree 0 · June 21, 2012 at 4:40 AM

MegaFoods is wheat/corn/soy free

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by 78417 · September 16, 2014 at 7:25 PM

Is there any new knowledge on vitamin K1 and K2 and derivates. MK7 MK8... What are good source for Vitamin K? Organ meat, butter... Is there source which are more uncomon. Maybe like insect bugs, fermented foods, exotic foods from remoted areas... (more)

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cliff_1 0 · July 01, 2011 at 11:49 PM

Only MK-4 is implicated in bone health and it is the x-factor in spring butter. Vitamin K1 is converted to MK-4 in the body. Pre-formed is probably more optimal but who knows. I take 5mg of MK-4 almost everyday, I want to make sure I load up... (more)

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by 1317 · September 16, 2014 at 7:58 PM

Thanks largely to the Weston Price Foundation and all its adherents, we never stop hearing about vitamin K2. My efforts to find the actual evidence to support a benefit of K2 over, say, other variants of the vitamin (such as K1) turn up very... (more)

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Stephen_4 0 · November 22, 2012 at 10:31 AM

Just 3-4 days ago I posted a question "where do you get your k2? Where I cited 3 ncbi pages showing decreased rates of chd and increased bone mineral density in under 1 year with calcium and D showing negligible results in that same study. There... (more)

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by 98 · September 16, 2014 at 7:12 PM

I've been looking for an answer to this for a while. Does anyone know what the accepted dosage recommendation for K2 (menatetrenone) is? Most of what I find is between 90 and 200mcg, and there's a Carlson Labs product containing 5mg ($44.75 @... (more)

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Chucks 0 · November 14, 2011 at 3:25 PM

Thorne Research's K2 is the only cost-effective MK4 supplement I know of. $60 for what appears to be 1200 1mg drops. 1 mg/day is far more than almost everyone gets from their diet (typical intakes are on the level of a few dozen MICROgrams per... (more)

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by 3 · September 16, 2014 at 8:08 PM

Lots of K2 supplements say they are "soy-free". But if you dig deeper, you'll find they're almost all DERIVED from soy -- the soy is supposedly all processed out. I don't believe this, because of how sick I got from taking a tobacco-derived K2. ... (more)

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Dragonfly 0 · May 13, 2013 at 6:45 PM

This thread may be helpful: http://paleohacks.com/questions/161814/where-do-you-get-your-k2#axzz2TCRD7PAe

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by 10 · September 16, 2014 at 8:09 PM

I know the name of the strain of bacterial used to ferment natto, the Japanese soybean dish full of vitamin k2, is Bacillus Natto. I can find cultures of it available online. However I would like to use it to ferment another type of food than... (more)

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JonN 0 · January 08, 2014 at 2:12 AM

Glib, The jury is still out on whether MK-4 is better or MK-7, but many have still made up their minds and claim their favorite is best. Here are the bullet points of their arguments. Blood levels of K-2 go up much faster, more, and... (more)

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by 1021 · September 16, 2014 at 8:10 PM

im not a vegan, i just dont want any of the ingredients or fillers to be derived from conventional animals. anybody know where i can get something like this?

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August 0 · June 06, 2013 at 5:43 PM

Thorne puts out a K2 that is made in a lab. It is drops, and the drops last a long time. The caveat is that I actually went back to Carlson's 5mg pills, which are made from animal sources, because I didn't feel the Thorne product made me feel as... (more)

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by 2065 · September 16, 2014 at 7:32 PM

I accidentally bought a k2 supplement in the MK-7 form instead of MK-4. Would you bother taking this? Thanks a lot!

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Jay_9 0 · October 22, 2011 at 7:25 PM

There's decent data for K1, and multiple forms of K2, including mk-7 and mk-4. The type of data supporting each is currently different, a testament to the infancy of the state of knowledge on this topic. There's a randomized placebo controlled... (more)

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by 12174 · September 16, 2014 at 7:26 PM

So, the very tips of my fingernails have started to peel - I'm about 9 days way through my Whole30 - 19 days if you discount a single meal. Whereas they had stopped peeling when I went lacto-paleo, now the tips of my fingernails have started to... (more)

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mth_1 0 · July 19, 2011 at 2:16 PM

Nothing diet related you have done for the last 19 days is causing your nail to split today. Either you have the fastest growing fingernails in the world for Whole30 to affect your fingernail tips, or 6 months ago you had some kind of problem... (more)

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by 529 · September 16, 2014 at 8:12 PM

Vitamin K2 ((Activator X) from Dr. Weston A. Price's work) seems very potentially crucial to overall health and longevity. There are studies linking healing of calcification in arteries via K2. It activates vitamines A & D. There are... (more)

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glib 0 · August 13, 2013 at 1:04 AM

If you are focusing on K2 alone, natto is off scale. For zinc, by far the best common source is beef. It is not nearly as high as oysters, but when you compare daily eating of beef with once a year oyster platter, beef dominates. You want to make... (more)

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by 309 · September 16, 2014 at 8:03 PM

I need to up my vitamin K intake. Am already eating tons of kale and spinache ( and other green leafies) but that's only taking care of my K1. I'm mostly interested in mk4 of the K2 actually. And as far as I know goose liver ranks highest in terms... (more)

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Jan_1 0 · February 13, 2013 at 2:52 PM

Burbot liver also has high K content, not sure how much of it is K2 tho. Its also very rich in vitamin D, more than cod liver.

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by 49 · September 16, 2014 at 7:31 PM

Hello there. Im currently on the following every day regiment: 600mg calcium 300mg magnesium 50mcg K2 2500iu D3 600mg vitC Are there any other supplements i could benefit from taking? Is the calcium enough? My diet consists of lots of... (more)

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Namby_Pamby 0 · October 15, 2011 at 4:23 PM

It depends on how much you weigh and how much you're getting from food. I would say 1g Vit C if you're not getting it from food. But you must be getting some from what you eat. As for K-2 in MK4 / Menaquinone form, 1mg if not getting from... (more)

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by 529 · September 16, 2014 at 8:12 PM

I have a limited budget but will do what is necessary to arrest and reverse semi-severe tooth decay. What diet/supplements will give me the most bang for my buck, and why? Please analyze my current knowledge and revise, or feel free to build... (more)

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Varelse 0 · August 09, 2013 at 4:03 PM

Well, dang. Any way you could be talked into some conventional treatment mixed in there? I just honestly do not think that, given the description of your problems, you will be able to acheive good oral health with only alternative measures. That... (more)

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by 10984 · September 16, 2014 at 7:59 PM

K2 activates the osteocalcin protein and shuttles calcium away from soft tissues, like blood vessels and kidneys (kidney stones) and into hard tissues like bones. So, would supplementing with k2-mk4 in the 10-30 mg/d range increase the TUL of... (more)

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JimRed 0 · December 11, 2012 at 9:10 PM

http://www.lef.org/magazine/mag2008/mar2008_Protecting-Bone-And-Arterial-Health-With-Vitamin-K2_01.htm

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by 188 · January 07, 2014 at 9:58 PM

FYI: To avoid any paleo die-hards from nagging me on the beans not being paleo subject, fermentation breaks down anti-nutrients into available nutrients. So I was watching a video of Dr. Mercola interviewing the wild fermentation specialist... (more)

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JonN 0 · January 07, 2014 at 9:58 PM

While natto bacteria are a very common soil bacteria, I don't think it is quite accurate to say they occur naturally on all beans. They are very common in soil where soy beans have been grown; not so much so in other soils. They are... (more)

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by 1418 · September 16, 2014 at 7:47 PM

After being scared to order K2 supplement from iherb and possibly not receiving the item due to it being a "banned" item(anything with vitamin K which this one had both K and K2) here in Canada, I finally decided to try ordering from well.ca which... (more)

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Josh_M 0 · June 10, 2012 at 7:43 AM

Vit K2 is not banned here in Canada, there is just a maximum strength that is allowed to be sold by Law, it's 60mcg or 100mcg. I buy Vit K2 @ 100mcg from my health food store regularly.