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Is Pescatarian Paleo Possible?

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Created August 17, 2011 at 1:25 PM

I am a personal trainer/paleo nutritionist and have a client who wants to work with me but is hopelessly Pescatarian, I normally do not take on clients who aren't willing to go full boar paleo as my work-outs are geared toward said lifestyle diet, so I'm just curious if anyone has any sort of advice of sources of information to help me make this Pescatarian/Paleo work for her :)

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1219 · August 24, 2011 at 6:53 PM

Kaitlin, why do you think she wouldn't get the full range of necessary nutrients from being a pescatarian?

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83 · August 22, 2011 at 4:30 AM

I think incorporating fish is very important in any diet, I just didn't see how she could be getting her full range of nutrients from fish alone w/o supplementing. As as I mentioned in the original comment, I am a nutritionist who solely supports the primal/paleo lifestyle, and do not work with clients who aren't compliant in said diet. And am successful enough to carry on this way, but thanks for the advice, Dragonfly.

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83 · August 22, 2011 at 4:27 AM

I appreciate all of your responses! When I suggested to my client that she would need to be eating different types of fish as well as fattier cuts of salmon etc...she said she didn't think she could eat THAT much fish in one day, which is where the 'hopeless' came from...seeing as she didn't really grasp the concept of not having to eat her 6 meals a day all based around fish I guess she was assuming...but alas, I find that people don't really see how much less you have to feed yourself in one day if you are incorporating enough fat to stay strong and satisfied until they actually DO it.

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83 · August 22, 2011 at 4:26 AM

I appreciate all of your responses! When I suggested to my client that she would need to be eating different types of fish as well as fattier cuts of salmon etc...she said she didn't think she could eat THAT much fish in one day, which is where the 'hopeless' came from...seeing as she didn't really grasp the concept of not having to eat her 6 meals a day all based around fish I guess she was assuming...but alas, I find that people don't really see how much less you have to feed yourself in one day if you are incorporating enough fat to stay strong and satisfied until they actually DO it.

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10184 · August 18, 2011 at 3:31 AM

Full boar. Nice metaphor for paleo! That's like going whole hog. Or hog wild. Using everything except for the squeal. But don't throw out the kettle of fish with the bathwater.

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24271 · August 18, 2011 at 12:24 AM

Yeah an invitation to eat more nuts! Gotta love that!

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1219 · August 17, 2011 at 7:48 PM

I would be leery of **any** diet heavy on poultry. :P

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11581 · August 17, 2011 at 6:25 PM

http://www.mosselbayman.co.za/index.php/home/5-human-evolution-and-the-great-leap-forward

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11581 · August 17, 2011 at 6:20 PM

There are some pretty good arguments to be made for our ancestors being primarily pescatarian during a major bottleneck in our evolution.

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24271 · August 17, 2011 at 4:01 PM

Hey Kaitlin is really good at what she does and I think she's just feeling some frustration over a first time situation she isn't quite sure what to do with. Yes she shows a clear bias against this choice but I think we're going to change her mind about this pescatarian thing and she's move forward to produce some great results for her client.

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7540 · August 17, 2011 at 3:52 PM

ITA with the above comments. I think it's might even be better than doing Paleo by eating a ton of muscle and organ meat from CAFO animals.

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733 · August 17, 2011 at 3:52 PM

Looks like it's working for her.

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32518 · August 17, 2011 at 2:21 PM

I find it a bit scary that you call yourself a nutritionist and refer to your client as "hopelessly Pescaterian." It really behooves you to understand a large variety of diets if you are going to work with clients. Speaking as a personal trainer/nutritionist here.

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3976 · August 17, 2011 at 1:55 PM

Maybe you need to define what you consider "paleo" because fish is encouraged by most paleo authors, particularly fatty fish that are wild or at least fed what wild fish eat. I don't see why there would be anything wrong with fish/seafood as a protein source with coconut oil for fat.

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11099 · August 17, 2011 at 6:03 PM

I'm a nutritional therapist, and if I had a client like this, I would recommend eating wild fatty fish a couple of times a day, including plenty of shellfish, fish bone broth, and fish offal as much as possible, plus plenty of fats with every meal...then the diet should be able to provide optimal nutrition.

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6550 · August 17, 2011 at 2:13 PM

A diet of wild-caught fish and plenty of diverse shellfish (particularly mussels, oysters, and claims) is perfectly healthy and very nutritious...perhaps even healthier than a more "traditional" paleo diet heavy on poultry. In fact, I wouldn't say it's not "full-bore paleo"--it's just a particular style of paleo, like low carb paleo or, say, kosher paleo.

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1219 · August 17, 2011 at 7:48 PM

I would be leery of **any** diet heavy on poultry. :P

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1219 · August 17, 2011 at 4:01 PM

Yes, the Kitavans are Pescaterian, with pork eaten on special occasions. The author of the definitive study on them, Staffan Lindeberg, spoke recently at the Ancestral Health Symposium. You might find his book, Food and Western Disease: Health and nutrition from an evolutionary perspective, very useful.

Addendum: I should add that the Kitavan diet is very high in saturated fat, moreso than the western style diet, even though it is lower in overall total fat. Take away: if your client likes coconut, he/she should have at it in all its forms (milk, water, meat). :P

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19220 · August 17, 2011 at 2:01 PM

This subject has been raised recently by Aravind here on paleohacks.

Also on Denise Mingers blog. Ancestral Health Symposium Thoughts, Paleo Vegetarianism, and Other Fun Things

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32518 · August 17, 2011 at 2:16 PM

Mark Sisson's wife Carrie Is a Pescaterian.

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733 · August 17, 2011 at 3:52 PM

Looks like it's working for her.

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39841 · August 17, 2011 at 6:29 PM

Seems like your n-3:n:6 ratio would get out of whack in the other direction, which might put you at risk for various hemorrhage-related problems. I suppose you could just match the amount of n-3 that you suspect you are eating and eat an equivalent amount of n-6 rich nuts.

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24271 · August 18, 2011 at 12:24 AM

Yeah an invitation to eat more nuts! Gotta love that!

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83 · August 22, 2011 at 4:26 AM

I appreciate all of your responses! When I suggested to my client that she would need to be eating different types of fish as well as fattier cuts of salmon etc...she said she didn't think she could eat THAT much fish in one day, which is where the 'hopeless' came from...seeing as she didn't really grasp the concept of not having to eat her 6 meals a day all based around fish I guess she was assuming...but alas, I find that people don't really see how much less you have to feed yourself in one day if you are incorporating enough fat to stay strong and satisfied until they actually DO it.

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78422 · August 17, 2011 at 3:46 PM

i think so. i have multiple days in a row where i stick to fatty fish and veggies, though i do include eggs. feels great!

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