Cream vs. Half and Half + Weight Loss

by 587 · April 11, 2011 at 1:54 AM

Perhaps this has been asked before. Forgive me if so.

Is it acceptable to drink half and half in my coffee if there is no coconut milk or heavy cream available?

Part of my goal here is weight loss. I am mainly Irish/Italian-descent and I otherwise avoid dairy.

Edited to add: Usually this coffee-cream combination is breakfast, not part of breakfast.

I'll drink it black if I must. You can have my coffee when you pry it from my cold, dead hands.

Thank you.

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2143 · April 11, 2011 at 1:54 AM

I love the reaction of the "baristas" at snooty coffee joints when I ask for a heavy-cream latté, extra shot pls when they're pulling nonsensical drinks like skinny half-caf soy extra-hot syrup-choked frappywhatsits ordered by grim, skeletal hyper-mommies or obese people thinking they're doing the right thing by avoiding animal fats.

Srsly, why spend $5 on a coffee drink if it's not luxuriously creamy?

388 · February 25, 2011 at 4:44 PM

If your goal is losing weight, you should drink it black anyways.

Coffee with no milk/cream = 0 calories.

18236 · February 25, 2011 at 4:38 PM

half and half is 'acceptable' if there is no heavy cream, but the 'acceptable' is subjective to each person's own opinion. some may say "NO WAY! It has pasteurized MILK in it!! You will get Diabetes! You will surely DIE!!!"

Others, like Dr Kurt Harris, drink half and half on purpose. Personally, I would put half and half in my coffee ONLY if the whole heavy cream was not available at that particular moment. Since learning about the issues regarding pasteurized milk, I have completely eliminated all forms from my diet, save for the rare occurrence when I am out at some event or venue where coffee is available and I didn't happen to stash a pint of heavy cream in my pocket on the way out the door.

But if the only 'creamer' that is available is some ridiculous manmade non-dairy chemicals, then forget it. I would surely drink it black, probably on principle alone, counting the 'good decision' as an intentional stronghold to help bolster the preservation of my views on concoctions of such mish mash.

77338 · April 10, 2011 at 12:59 AM

Why ingest lactose if you can slurp cream?

1490 · February 26, 2011 at 4:45 AM

Half-and-half spikes my blood sugar; it has a fair bit of lactose. Even if you're not diabetic, proper blood sugar control is essential for weight loss and control. I drink at least a 1/2 cup of heavy cream every day - some days several times that - and have lost a bunch of weight.

2231 · February 25, 2011 at 4:44 PM

For weight loss half & half won't hurt, but cream is better, because of the higher fat percent. I used to only drink coffee straight up black. When I became Paleo, I added cream to get a bit more fat into my diet.

3196 · April 10, 2011 at 12:46 AM

As for the notion that pasteurized milk is going to cause some sort of allergic state because of PAMPs or MAMPs reacting with TLRs, I find it only mildly plausible. Yeah, you might lyse some pathogen with a particularly noxious LPS and drink that LPS and set off an inflammatory response. Then again, you're constantly ingesting bacteria with LPS, lipoteihoic acids, peptidoglycans and all the other bits of bacterial debris that react with TLRs. If you drank raw milk with living bacteria, not all those bacteria are going to survive in your mouth, nor in your stomach, and so you're going to be passing bits of lysed bacteria into your intestines and they're going to encounter TLR bearing cells and you're going to have an immune response. What really sets off the immune system are immune cells being presented with PAMPs plus some other virulence factor, which you're going to see primarily with pathogenic strains. It is entirely possible that most dairies don't care about those strains b/c they're just going to pasteurize the milk anyway. So pasteurized milk might contain more inflammatory bacterial bits than raw milk. Possible. Do all the bacterial membranes and proteins survive the pasteurization process in the necessary conformation to interact with TLRs or other antigen binding cells? I have no idea. But we're also talking about a process that can lead to DIC and death. Are people who are not allergic to milk dying of DIC? No. Doesn't mean there can't be subclinical inflammation going on, and there probably is, but I think pasteurized milk (and hence, 1/2&1/2) is pretty low on the list of noxious products.

0 · April 10, 2011 at 12:09 AM

Wait, we can have coffee as Paleos?

145 · February 25, 2011 at 5:00 PM

I drink coffee often with half and half, and stevia. It seems to add balance to the overall taste of the paleo diet. I get tired of all meat and veggies and the addition of something creamy and sweet satisfies, which helps keep me on track. In an ideal world I would choose grass fed heavy cream every time, but that is costly, especially when I don't use it all before expiration. So organic half and half it is.

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