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Hack my wrinkles (genetics or diet)

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Created August 13, 2012 at 7:43 AM

I've searched many threads on wrinkles but I'm trying to find concise answers to maybe help me out. I'm 25 turning 26 in a month. What I've noticed in the last 2 years is definitely an increase in wrinkles, a few around my eyes but more concerning is the smile lines from my nose to my mouth. I'm not totally paleo as I should be (grains a few times a week, dairy almost daily, sweets a couple times a week). But I try my damnedest to eat meats, healthy fats, some vegs/fruits and potatoes (safe starches). Two years ago I stopped being bulimic at which time I was usually low carb and than when I'd binge once a week i'd purge- but i wasn't a restrict-er so my weight was higher. After I stopped I slowly lost weight got leaner- in the body and face. This is when I noticed my wrinkles and now more. I just had my son 6 months ago and last i weighed I was lighter than when i had gotten pregnant. I lift weights regularly and I am no where near skinny. I still would like to lose weight actually but hopefully I won't lose more from my face. I'm wondering if its genetic or am I missing something nutrient wise. I never took supplements before or multi-vit's. I use to take D3 because it was popular but stopped a year ago because i heard negative things. I've been taking Fermented cod liver oil for a year now. Just bought some acerola cherry powder because I've heard Vit C can be good. Also have gelatin coming in the mail because i can't make bone broth right now (and heard it can work pretty well) and considering Vit E and Zinc. My mom and grandmother have amazing skin and look so young for their age. My dad had rough life due to serious drug usage but before had very beautiful tan skin. I don't get a lot of sleep now but use to. I have never drank enough water. And I use almost no skin products but started using jojoba on my face in the shower a year ago. I tried the oil cleaning method but felt like it was making my skin drier but still breaking out, which doesn't help with wrinkles . Its kind of sad because when I was younger I use to get many, many compliments on how great my skin was.. Now it seems like I'm aging fast and I have more break outs than ever!

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0 · March 24, 2014 at 1:42 PM

No sunscreen--intriguing...I live in Denver. Burning is the only alternative if you want to be outside a lot! Educate me?...

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0 · March 24, 2014 at 1:41 PM

I'm just looking into this aspect of Paleo--I'm doing it for overall health and the good sense it seems to make. But I am super-curious: are you saying that eating well the Paleo way will help keep skin from sagging as well as reduce wrinkles? Aging is a fact of life, I realize. But hey, wouldn't it be nice... :-)

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90 · August 19, 2012 at 7:14 AM

Best advice thanks Marcy! Yes I guess sun does give wrinkles forever avoiding it, kidding but no sunscreen for me or maybe a burts bees/ natural one If I can find.. Sleep, yes not doing it like I should..

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90 · August 19, 2012 at 7:11 AM

He looks young..

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1317 · August 18, 2012 at 12:23 AM

I think if you look at indigenous people getting a hell of a lot of saturated fat... they're still incredibly wrinkled, unfortunately. Being darker helps protect but... I wish it was as easy as just eating more saturated fat.

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32518 · August 17, 2012 at 12:57 PM

I find Dr. Bronners especially drying. Carlson's Solar D Gems are made from CLO and lanolin--extracted, not synthesized.

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90 · August 17, 2012 at 8:28 AM

Thank you!! Ok I will get all that tested I was considering doing so especially after having a baby (body gets so depleted).. Ugh the sleep thing I'm trying!!! I go to bed so late and than get no sleep with the baby waking me up constantly. I was worried about taking synthetic D3 again.. And I avoid most products but use Bronners occasionally. Thanks again

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90 · August 17, 2012 at 8:26 AM

Hmm really? I wonder about that I thought the same good diet and cod liver oil, saturated fats etc would protect. My mom is a freak about sunscreen and getting no sun now.And my husband looks soooo young himself I'm so jealous makes sense he's extremely dark (Jamaican) he's 36 and looks close to my age!

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90 · August 17, 2012 at 8:21 AM

HAha I understand the meat thing lately its when I wake up I noticed the wrinkles on the one side of my face that slept on the pillow to be more prominent.. Coconut oil is awesome but dries my skin out..

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90 · August 17, 2012 at 8:20 AM

Ok well I only use FCLO otherwise don't eat much fish or well I guess its in walnuts too etc guess I'll google. Thanks

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678 · August 15, 2012 at 6:11 AM

I hear you on that. I struggle with the idea of using commercial beauty products myself; I only use one, I really really like this one and I keep it to a minimum. Coconut oil on the skin at night works wonders. I also use a special pillow called "SaveMyFace" because I like to sleep on my side and I don't like waking up looking like my face was the meat in a reuben sandwich.

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11048 · August 14, 2012 at 1:43 PM

You also have to factor in your father's genes.

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1774 · August 14, 2012 at 4:13 AM

omega 3 oils.... sometimes, omega 6 oils in the diet can increase oil production in the skin as well

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90 · August 14, 2012 at 2:31 AM

Also what do you man by heavy o3 diet?

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90 · August 14, 2012 at 2:08 AM

Yikes no its not that bad and I wouldn't resort to "treatments". Looking for natural remedy's otherwise I'll just go on living my life and forget it as best I can. I started looking at more photos of my mom and she seem to have those lines when she was younger but as she got older she just didn't age lol. I use to be a sun worshiper in the summer thankfully I stopped that. My mom use to use the tanning beds ALOT! I heard sunscreen is actually not good and I don't like putting it on so maybe I'll just be careful how much I get. My dad is Mexican and very dark but I'm a big lighter.

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90 · August 14, 2012 at 2:03 AM

I was curious about liver! LOL but I'd have to make it than swallow it whole because i can't stand it or the texture! yuck.. Thanks

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90 · August 14, 2012 at 2:01 AM

Thanks! I'd prefer to stay away from all commerical beauty products though but will definitely do the water thing.. And try my best to feel happy. I think my laughing too much has added to those very lines but oh well..

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90 · August 14, 2012 at 2:00 AM

I guess all I know is my mother and grandmother look great and I'd like to age like them..

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11048 · August 14, 2012 at 12:04 AM

That was my thought, too, Kelly. Attitude is 100% behind aging gracefully!

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3850 · August 13, 2012 at 10:43 PM

Aging gracefully has zero to do with how you look and 100% to do with how you react to it.

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90 · August 13, 2012 at 5:54 PM

Thanks but not everyone has to age ungracefully

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4266 · August 13, 2012 at 2:04 PM

Welcome to aging.

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32518 · August 14, 2012 at 2:04 PM

The key here is to reduce overall inflammation & support collagen production. My skin looks much better than my younger sisters, largely because of my nutrient-dense diet & lower stress lifestyle.

Thing I have done:

Get good sleep! Essential for skin repair.

Drop the grains! (phytates inhibit mineral absorption--not great for skin health.)

Do a zinc tally test & if deficient (likely), supplement 50 mg/day of Zinc Picolinate & retest in 3 months.

Get Vitamin D level tested & sun/supplement to 60-80 ng/ml.

Bone broth & gelatin 2-3 x a week (or more, if you wish.)

Make sure you are eating enough fat.

3-4 oz liver per week.

Vitamin C via fruit or supplement 1000 mg/day.

Warm water only on face & body (I only use Kiss May Face soap where needed--underarms, etc.)

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32518 · August 17, 2012 at 12:57 PM

I find Dr. Bronners especially drying. Carlson's Solar D Gems are made from CLO and lanolin--extracted, not synthesized.

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90 · August 17, 2012 at 8:28 AM

Thank you!! Ok I will get all that tested I was considering doing so especially after having a baby (body gets so depleted).. Ugh the sleep thing I'm trying!!! I go to bed so late and than get no sleep with the baby waking me up constantly. I was worried about taking synthetic D3 again.. And I avoid most products but use Bronners occasionally. Thanks again

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0 · March 24, 2014 at 1:41 PM

I'm just looking into this aspect of Paleo--I'm doing it for overall health and the good sense it seems to make. But I am super-curious: are you saying that eating well the Paleo way will help keep skin from sagging as well as reduce wrinkles? Aging is a fact of life, I realize. But hey, wouldn't it be nice... :-)

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678 · August 13, 2012 at 10:49 AM

Don't use any creams or soaps. Don't wash your face. Exfoliate it naturally with a damp facecloth, once a week or less. Use coconut oil on your face, neck and back of hands at night and consume 1-2 teaspoons a day (in tea or whatever). Use one really good eye cream, occasionally. I use Vichy Liftactiv Retinol HA about 3-4 days a week. Pat gently around the eyes. Keep up with the cod liver oil. Drink tons of water. Sweat TONS. Work out (or MOVE) every day and make those cheeks red and rosy. Eat fruits. Eat raw veggies in all colours of the rainbow. But most importantly - play, laugh, act young and be young. You've already put your body through a tremendous strain. It's time to have fun and relish your youth - don't stress! Watch funny movies, tell jokes and do whatever you need to do to feel happy from within. The twinkle and shine in your eyes will indicate a happy, carefree person, and that is a great preserver of youth. (I'm 34 and I look 24, apparently)

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90 · August 14, 2012 at 2:01 AM

Thanks! I'd prefer to stay away from all commerical beauty products though but will definitely do the water thing.. And try my best to feel happy. I think my laughing too much has added to those very lines but oh well..

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678 · August 15, 2012 at 6:11 AM

I hear you on that. I struggle with the idea of using commercial beauty products myself; I only use one, I really really like this one and I keep it to a minimum. Coconut oil on the skin at night works wonders. I also use a special pillow called "SaveMyFace" because I like to sleep on my side and I don't like waking up looking like my face was the meat in a reuben sandwich.

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90 · August 17, 2012 at 8:21 AM

HAha I understand the meat thing lately its when I wake up I noticed the wrinkles on the one side of my face that slept on the pillow to be more prominent.. Coconut oil is awesome but dries my skin out..

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1317 · August 14, 2012 at 12:49 PM

I am 26 and have noticed a huge increase in wrinkles around my eyes in the last two years. One thing is practically never wearing suncream and relying on my face to absorb vitamin D in the winter (eg exposing it to sunlight as much as possible). I wanted to believe that all the women around me (I live in Japan) were ridiculous to wear visors, carry parasols and wear armbands to avoid sun damage and taht cod liver oil and a good diet was all I needed. I was wrong. Wear. Sunscreen. (and a hat!)

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4176 · August 14, 2012 at 1:54 PM

Eat things that are collagen-rich. Make bone broth. Add chicken feet to stews. Tend to your intestinal health. Eat lots of fermented foods.

Sunshine does give you lots of Vitamin D but it also gives you wrinkles. Wear a hat and you can still get the benefits of the sun on other parts of your body. Never wash with soap. Coconut oil and almond oil really dried me out. I just bought some Evening Primrose Oil and am taking it both orally and using it topically and am already very pleased with the results (like, my pores looked smaller within one day and my facial redness is noticeably lessened - I'm a fan). Use a high quality shampoo or no shampoo.

I am very against sunscreen. I don't feel comfortable playing "which ingredient causes cancer this year?" Most recently, I know there has been some controversy about retinol in anti-aging lotions with sunscreen actually expediting the growth of melanoma. Terrific. Use clothing and hats instead!

Sleep. Sleeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeep! Hard with an infant, yes. It goes without saying, but no smoking. Anything. Go easy on the booze. And dude, have fun. Horrible wrinkles that are evidence of an unhealthy lifestyle = no bueno. Lines that are age appropriate = awesome. Gives you character!

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90 · August 19, 2012 at 7:14 AM

Best advice thanks Marcy! Yes I guess sun does give wrinkles forever avoiding it, kidding but no sunscreen for me or maybe a burts bees/ natural one If I can find.. Sleep, yes not doing it like I should..

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0 · March 24, 2014 at 1:42 PM

No sunscreen--intriguing...I live in Denver. Burning is the only alternative if you want to be outside a lot! Educate me?...

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1774 · August 13, 2012 at 10:10 PM

i actually find the oil cleansing method to be WAYYY over drying for my skin. using coconut oil dries it out in addition to making me break out. I've resorted to using creams with Ubiquinone or CoQ10 and it's helped immensely. If you are not opposed to using beauty products like that, then i'd say give it a shot...and don't be afraid to do so! a lot of people bash "unnatural" products around this site, but not all naturally occurring compounds are safe for human use/ consumption.

another thing is I find that an O3 heavy diet or a fat heavy diet tends to dry my skin out (which also leads to wrinkle formation). Another way to put this is that a low carb diet can lead to dry skin due to the lack of Vitamin C and sugar (sugar promotes normal thyroid function, which then promotes youthful skin). To remedy this, I've added a ton of carbs back into my diet (mainly fruits - i don't really believe in the fructose hype) and my skin really glows - With this way of eating, i think the effects from vitamin c are more pronounced because it works in synergy with the compounds found in fruit

As for carbs and undesired weight gain, as long as you are not exceeding your calories needed for maintaining weight, then you WILL be fine.

Also, i'm somewhat surprised no one has mentioned liver yet... ;-)

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90 · August 14, 2012 at 2:03 AM

I was curious about liver! LOL but I'd have to make it than swallow it whole because i can't stand it or the texture! yuck.. Thanks

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90 · August 14, 2012 at 2:31 AM

Also what do you man by heavy o3 diet?

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1774 · August 14, 2012 at 4:13 AM

omega 3 oils.... sometimes, omega 6 oils in the diet can increase oil production in the skin as well

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90 · August 17, 2012 at 8:20 AM

Ok well I only use FCLO otherwise don't eat much fish or well I guess its in walnuts too etc guess I'll google. Thanks

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1317 · August 14, 2012 at 12:50 PM

I am 26 and have noticed a huge increase in wrinkles around my eyes in the last two years. One thing is practically never wearing suncream and relying on my face to absorb vitamin D in the winter (eg exposing it to sunlight as much as possible). I wanted to believe that all the women around me (I live in Japan) were ridiculous to wear visors, carry parasols and wear armbands to avoid sun damage and taht cod liver oil and a good diet was all I needed. I was wrong. Wear. Sunscreen. (and a hat!)

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1317 · August 18, 2012 at 12:23 AM

I think if you look at indigenous people getting a hell of a lot of saturated fat... they're still incredibly wrinkled, unfortunately. Being darker helps protect but... I wish it was as easy as just eating more saturated fat.

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90 · August 17, 2012 at 8:26 AM

Hmm really? I wonder about that I thought the same good diet and cod liver oil, saturated fats etc would protect. My mom is a freak about sunscreen and getting no sun now.And my husband looks soooo young himself I'm so jealous makes sense he's extremely dark (Jamaican) he's 36 and looks close to my age!

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10 · August 13, 2012 at 9:18 PM

1/well sun damage is key: so good hydration, several times a day plus sunscreen, every two or three hours peven when it is cloudy, because UVs are high nonetheless, to get an idea of the UVs in your area http://www.temis.nl/uvradiation/world_uvi.html

below two is relatively safe, see a general curve in summer here http://www.nrpbdev.org.uk/uv/uv_index.cfm?UVlocation=Leeds ] 2/acceptance of your skin, the soonest is the best

3/ see your dermatologist, you can have laser treatments for dark pigmented areas and wrinkles, but costly and not that great compared to risks [erythema, PIH , no sun whatsoever, acne, scars]

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90 · August 14, 2012 at 2:08 AM

Yikes no its not that bad and I wouldn't resort to "treatments". Looking for natural remedy's otherwise I'll just go on living my life and forget it as best I can. I started looking at more photos of my mom and she seem to have those lines when she was younger but as she got older she just didn't age lol. I use to be a sun worshiper in the summer thankfully I stopped that. My mom use to use the tanning beds ALOT! I heard sunscreen is actually not good and I don't like putting it on so maybe I'll just be careful how much I get. My dad is Mexican and very dark but I'm a big lighter.

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341 · August 13, 2012 at 10:31 AM

Drinking enough water would probably be the most effective and immediate solution. When your body is dehydrated, your skin loses a lot of its natural elacticity and fullness. Think of it as the difference between a grape and a raisin...

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0 · December 14, 2013 at 6:33 PM

@baconbittch I just stumbled on this page. You may have gotten your answer, but I felt compelled to still reply. As a skin professional, there are so many things I want to ask before answering this question - one being how long were you bulimic? Many people don't realize the effects that this sort of disorder can have on your skin. It's not something that you cannot come back from, once you're on the right track to eating healthy again, but it definitely will take time to rebuild those cells that have been damaged and confused. It does sound like you are on the right track with your new diet, but it will take some time so have patience. If you would like to pick my brain or have more questions, feel free to find me via social media - ICFaces

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